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    Post  VARGR198 Mon May 23, 2022 9:46 am


    Looks like the collapse of the Ukrainan army is happening.

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    Post  VARGR198 Mon May 23, 2022 10:12 am

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    Post  flamming_python Mon May 23, 2022 10:30 am

    ALAMO wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:3 fucking Su-25s?

    Where do they keep getting these kamikaze pilots from?
    I'm finding this hard to believe
    And it's not like they can hastily train new pilots in weeks or something, the Su-25 is a complicated machine - anything that flies is, but especially military aircraft and jet aircraft.

    Some are mercs, some are cadets.
    They used to train foreign pilots, so they had a working military-grade aviation education.
    I guess there are dozens of young folks in schools knowing how to start with a plane. Considering the situation, landing skill is not required ...

    To fly perhaps. Although a 2-engine jet aircraft is no slouch, it takes a lot of instruction and practice. The engines can even catch on fire if you don't stick to procedure for starting them up.
    I tried my hand with a A-10 simulator once. Wow. It's insane. And I'm someone who has a pinch of experience with planes, knows the theory and has flown single-engine prop aircraft with instructors. Hey, it's something.

    But to use weapon systems and destroy targets I can hardly believe. Dumb bombs, unguided rockets - they would be ineffective in the hands of cadets. You would hardly be able to make out targets, navigate accurately - much less aim.
    Guided missiles like the Kh-29, or the S-25L corrected rocket - maybe. But it's a lot of workload for one pilot not even out of the academy - to simultaneously fly the aircraft, distinguish friendly from enemy forces, and manage a guided weapons system at the same time.
    As for mercs - I don't know if they'd be that dumb. They can see the sortie reports and casualty figures
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    Post  flamming_python Mon May 23, 2022 10:40 am

    VARGR198 wrote:

    Meh that's nothing

    Still remember how the rebels got that pedestal T-34 tank back into operation back in 2014

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    Post  ALAMO Mon May 23, 2022 10:42 am

    It was IS-3 if I remember Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Serberus Mon May 23, 2022 11:26 am

    https://t.me/kommunist/5491
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    Post  Hole Mon May 23, 2022 11:45 am

    ALAMO wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:3 fucking Su-25s?

    Where do they keep getting these kamikaze pilots from?
    I'm finding this hard to believe
    And it's not like they can hastily train new pilots in weeks or something, the Su-25 is a complicated machine - anything that flies is, but especially military aircraft and jet aircraft.

    Some are mercs, some are cadets.
    They used to train foreign pilots, so they had a working military-grade aviation education.
    I guess there are dozens of young folks in schools knowing how to start with a plane. Considering the situation, landing skill is not required ...

    No landing skills. The good old al-Kaida flying school. Very Happy

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    Post  Hole Mon May 23, 2022 11:47 am

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    Post  VARGR198 Mon May 23, 2022 11:48 am

    ALAMO wrote:It was IS-3 if I remember Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Regular Mon May 23, 2022 11:50 am

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    About 50 percent of those Ukrainian maggots population hate Russia more than anything, for more than a century, so I dont share your opinion about "brother" love between Russia and "Ukraine".  .

    Lol, do you know how absurd this sounds for someone who actually been to Ukraine? 20 years ago or so people barely spoke Ukrainian.
    You just sound like Ukrainian extremist who are breaking their backs trying to prove that Ukraine and Russia are not connected in any way.

    Give it 10-15 years and sentiment can change again, but fact is that Russians and Ukrainians are brotherly nations with almost the same mentality and in my opinion, Ukrainians are closer to Russians than to Poles or even mellow Belarussians (They are Estonians of Slavs)

    Nazism in Russia was also rife in the 90s, but Oligarchs never managed to use those elements and they just faded away, in Ukraine as you can see - they were used as a muscle to get certain people in power and all the bullshit narrative was promoted by them.

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    Post  Hole Mon May 23, 2022 11:51 am

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    Post  Serberus Mon May 23, 2022 12:40 pm

    Regular wrote:

    Very good example. But West does like to change their toys often. We will see, Chechens were much more hostile than Ukrainians not long ago, and look at them now.

    This conflict is a huge tragedy on many levels but now that we are in it, there is only one way out and thats the total destruction of their armed forces, hopefully the guys who were mobilised are able to surrender and the nutters will be wiped out , while those left behind may well come back to sanity one day.

    It is unfortunate that the West was able to embed itself in Ukraine and allow the nationalists and Nazis to take prominent roles and destroy the place from the inside out , but those who stood by are not totally blameless themselves, however they still have a chance to see the light, hope they do.

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    Post  Belisarius Mon May 23, 2022 3:18 pm

    ⚡⚡We don't want to be cannon fodder

    Servicemen of the 58th motorized infantry brigade turned to Zelensky and said that many of them had never held weapons in their hands, that they had no ammunition, weapons and food, so they refused to perform combat missions.
    https://t.me/levigodman/2436

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    Post  Regular Mon May 23, 2022 3:41 pm

    Belisarius wrote:⚡⚡We don't want to be cannon fodder

    Servicemen of the 58th motorized infantry brigade turned to Zelensky and said that many of them had never held weapons in their hands, that they had no ammunition, weapons and food, so they refused to perform combat missions.
    https://t.me/levigodman/2436

    Smart people, not traitors, but realists.

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    Post  Hole Mon May 23, 2022 3:44 pm

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    Post  dionis Mon May 23, 2022 4:16 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Another dead General resurrected

    Who thus far was claimed dead but found alive?
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    Post  flamming_python Mon May 23, 2022 4:27 pm

    dionis wrote:
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    Another dead General resurrected

    Who thus far was claimed dead but found alive?

    Start from Shoigu and work your way down

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    Post  Backman Mon May 23, 2022 4:32 pm


    Papadragon wrote

    Not this again

    If they do this fast it will mean insufficient number of Ukrops killed

    You are suggesting winning the war and losing the peace (and ensuing insurgency)

    Go slow, kill them all and Odessa will be reached in due time

    This war can only have two outcomes: Russia on Polish border or Russia ceasing to exist, no middle ground anymore

    So best to do it right

    I agree. They just better keep a keen eye on Odessa. Its the only real asset left.

    Anyway Im glad to see the board has settled in a bit. Early in the war there was sure a lot of arrogant brOSINTards around.
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    Post  Backman Mon May 23, 2022 4:46 pm

    Serberus wrote:
    Regular wrote:

    Very good example. But West does like to change their toys often. We will see, Chechens were much more hostile than Ukrainians not long ago, and look at them now.

    This conflict is a huge tragedy on many levels but now that we are in it, there is only one way out and thats the total destruction of their armed forces, hopefully the guys who were mobilised are able to surrender and the nutters will be wiped out , while those left behind may well come back to sanity one day.

    It is unfortunate that the West was able to embed itself in Ukraine and allow the nationalists and Nazis to take prominent roles and destroy the place from the inside out , but those who stood by are not totally blameless themselves, however they still have a chance to see the light, hope they do.

    5

    Its a tragedy. But the Ukraine troops, not just the Nazis, wanted a fight. Some probably thought they could win. Nothing else explains the relative lack of surrendering. There's surrenders in the 100's. But not in the 1000's. If you really want to surrender, there's probably a way. But when you look on the telegram channels, these Ukie dimwits are just fighting. Their lifespan on the front lines is measured in minutes, but they keep fighting. And Russia gave Ukraine a whole 2 weeks to surrender.

    No sympathy.

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