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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #17
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Looks like the collapse of the Ukrainan army is happening.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #17
flamming_python Mon May 23, 2022 12:30 pm
ALAMO wrote:flamming_python wrote:3 fucking Su-25s?
Where do they keep getting these kamikaze pilots from?
I'm finding this hard to believe
And it's not like they can hastily train new pilots in weeks or something, the Su-25 is a complicated machine - anything that flies is, but especially military aircraft and jet aircraft.
Some are mercs, some are cadets.
They used to train foreign pilots, so they had a working military-grade aviation education.
I guess there are dozens of young folks in schools knowing how to start with a plane. Considering the situation, landing skill is not required ...
To fly perhaps. Although a 2-engine jet aircraft is no slouch, it takes a lot of instruction and practice. The engines can even catch on fire if you don't stick to procedure for starting them up.
I tried my hand with a A-10 simulator once. Wow. It's insane. And I'm someone who has a pinch of experience with planes, knows the theory and has flown single-engine prop aircraft with instructors. Hey, it's something.
But to use weapon systems and destroy targets I can hardly believe. Dumb bombs, unguided rockets - they would be ineffective in the hands of cadets. You would hardly be able to make out targets, navigate accurately - much less aim.
Guided missiles like the Kh-29, or the S-25L corrected rocket - maybe. But it's a lot of workload for one pilot not even out of the academy - to simultaneously fly the aircraft, distinguish friendly from enemy forces, and manage a guided weapons system at the same time.
As for mercs - I don't know if they'd be that dumb. They can see the sortie reports and casualty figures
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #17
flamming_python Mon May 23, 2022 12:40 pm
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Meh that's nothing
Still remember how the rebels got that pedestal T-34 tank back into operation back in 2014
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It was IS-3 if I remember 
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Wehrmacht taking accurate hits near Severodonetsk
Wehrmacht taking accurate hits near Severodonetsk
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ALAMO wrote:flamming_python wrote:3 fucking Su-25s?
Where do they keep getting these kamikaze pilots from?
I'm finding this hard to believe
And it's not like they can hastily train new pilots in weeks or something, the Su-25 is a complicated machine - anything that flies is, but especially military aircraft and jet aircraft.
Some are mercs, some are cadets.
They used to train foreign pilots, so they had a working military-grade aviation education.
I guess there are dozens of young folks in schools knowing how to start with a plane. Considering the situation, landing skill is not required ...
No landing skills. The good old al-Kaida flying school.
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ALAMO wrote:It was IS-3 if I remember
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Podlodka77 wrote:
About 50 percent of those Ukrainian maggots population hate Russia more than anything, for more than a century, so I dont share your opinion about "brother" love between Russia and "Ukraine". .
Lol, do you know how absurd this sounds for someone who actually been to Ukraine? 20 years ago or so people barely spoke Ukrainian.
You just sound like Ukrainian extremist who are breaking their backs trying to prove that Ukraine and Russia are not connected in any way.
Give it 10-15 years and sentiment can change again, but fact is that Russians and Ukrainians are brotherly nations with almost the same mentality and in my opinion, Ukrainians are closer to Russians than to Poles or even mellow Belarussians (They are Estonians of Slavs)
Nazism in Russia was also rife in the 90s, but Oligarchs never managed to use those elements and they just faded away, in Ukraine as you can see - they were used as a muscle to get certain people in power and all the bullshit narrative was promoted by them.
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Regular wrote:
Very good example. But West does like to change their toys often. We will see, Chechens were much more hostile than Ukrainians not long ago, and look at them now.
This conflict is a huge tragedy on many levels but now that we are in it, there is only one way out and thats the total destruction of their armed forces, hopefully the guys who were mobilised are able to surrender and the nutters will be wiped out , while those left behind may well come back to sanity one day.
It is unfortunate that the West was able to embed itself in Ukraine and allow the nationalists and Nazis to take prominent roles and destroy the place from the inside out , but those who stood by are not totally blameless themselves, however they still have a chance to see the light, hope they do.
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More artillery hits
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Ukrainian sources confirm the loss of part of Krasny Liman, Russian troops control some part of the city. The fights continue.————-
Su-25s in action near Gorlovka
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We don't want to be cannon fodderServicemen of the 58th motorized infantry brigade turned to Zelensky and said that many of them had never held weapons in their hands, that they had no ammunition, weapons and food, so they refused to perform combat missions.
https://t.me/levigodman/2436
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Belisarius wrote:
Servicemen of the 58th motorized infantry brigade turned to Zelensky and said that many of them had never held weapons in their hands, that they had no ammunition, weapons and food, so they refused to perform combat missions.
https://t.me/levigodman/2436
Smart people, not traitors, but realists.
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Another dead General resurrected
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Hole wrote:
Another dead General resurrected
Who thus far was claimed dead but found alive?
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #17
flamming_python Mon May 23, 2022 6:27 pm
dionis wrote:Hole wrote:
Another dead General resurrected
Who thus far was claimed dead but found alive?
Start from Shoigu and work your way down
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Papadragon wrote
Not this again
If they do this fast it will mean insufficient number of Ukrops killed
You are suggesting winning the war and losing the peace (and ensuing insurgency)
Go slow, kill them all and Odessa will be reached in due time
This war can only have two outcomes: Russia on Polish border or Russia ceasing to exist, no middle ground anymore
So best to do it right
I agree. They just better keep a keen eye on Odessa. Its the only real asset left.
Anyway Im glad to see the board has settled in a bit. Early in the war there was sure a lot of arrogant brOSINTards around.
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Serberus wrote:Regular wrote:
Very good example. But West does like to change their toys often. We will see, Chechens were much more hostile than Ukrainians not long ago, and look at them now.
This conflict is a huge tragedy on many levels but now that we are in it, there is only one way out and thats the total destruction of their armed forces, hopefully the guys who were mobilised are able to surrender and the nutters will be wiped out , while those left behind may well come back to sanity one day.
It is unfortunate that the West was able to embed itself in Ukraine and allow the nationalists and Nazis to take prominent roles and destroy the place from the inside out , but those who stood by are not totally blameless themselves, however they still have a chance to see the light, hope they do.
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Its a tragedy. But the Ukraine troops, not just the Nazis, wanted a fight. Some probably thought they could win. Nothing else explains the relative lack of surrendering. There's surrenders in the 100's. But not in the 1000's. If you really want to surrender, there's probably a way. But when you look on the telegram channels, these Ukie dimwits are just fighting. Their lifespan on the front lines is measured in minutes, but they keep fighting. And Russia gave Ukraine a whole 2 weeks to surrender.
No sympathy.
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