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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:08 am


    Martyanov put it best just now:

    ...war, quoting our good ol' friend Carl von Clausewitz, is about "compelling the enemy to do our will." In order to do so, you destroy its armies and that means physical annihilation of enemy's war material economy and, yes, extermination of those military personnel who still want to fight.

    This is something that USSR never figured out and it cost them everything




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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:10 am

    🇷🇺🇺🇦 Attack on Donbass: situation in eastern Ukraine
    by the end of September 4, 2022

    ▪Russian troops hit concentrations of enemy manpower in Stukalovka, Shalygino, Esmani, Seredina-Budakh, Znob-Novgorodsky and Krasnopolye in the Sumy region, as well as in Mikhailinskaya Sloboda, Chernihiv region.

    ▪Despite the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkiv direction, the enemy stepped up the work of artillery:
    ➖Ukrainian formations fired at Cossack Lopan, Udy, Sosnovka and Big Passages in the north of the Kharkiv region. In the Barvenkovsky direction, Izyum and Balakliya were subjected to massive shelling by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    ➖Ukrainian DRGs periodically enter the territory controlled by the RF Armed Forces. Enemy sniper groups are working not far from Oud.
    ➖The RF Armed Forces carried out strikes on the deployment point of the national battalion "Kraken" in the Kievsky district of Kharkov.
    ➖Russian artillery and aviation worked on targets in the area of ​​Stary Saltov, Andreevka, Dolyna, Gusarovka, Slatino, Chuguev and Peremoga.

    ▪The Armed Forces of Ukraine announced the capture of the village of Ozernoye on the northern bank of the Seversky Donets in the Slavyansko-Barvenkovsky direction. In fact, the sortie turned out to be a PR action: the enemy crossed the river in a small group and took a series of photographs in an empty village in the gray zone, after which they retreated to their original positions.

    Despite the formal control of the settlement by the allied forces, there is no stronghold in Ozerny, since any location there will be vulnerable due to the terrain: the village is located in a lowland.

    ▪There are no significant changes in the front line in the Bakhmut (Artemovsk) direction.
    ➖ In Soledar and Bakhmut, allied forces are engaged in positional battles on the outskirts.
    ➖Clashes continue in Kodem: Wagner PMC assault squads are squeezing out the enemy on the western outskirts of the settlement.

    ▪In the Donetsk direction, allied forces are fighting in the suburbs of the DPR capital.
    ➖Ukrainian formations once again fired at the settlements of the Donetsk agglomeration, there are wounded and dead among civilians.
    ➖Between Peski and Pervomaisky, units of the People's Militia of the DPR are fighting for strongholds on the Donetsk ring road.
    ➖Allied forces are pushing the enemy back from the Mayorskaya railway station in the northwest of Gorlovka.

    ▪In the Zaporozhye region, the parties are engaged in artillery duels along the entire line of contact. Russian artillerymen are striking at the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Nikopol and Marganets on the northern bank of the Dnieper, from where the ZNPP is being shelled.

    ▪In the Krivoy Rog direction, active battles for Vysokopole and Olgino continue. This morning, the Airborne Forces left Vysokopolye to avoid encirclement. At 16:00, Russian troops launched a counteroffensive and, according to preliminary information, managed to level the front line, returning the abandoned positions
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    Confirmed VDV counterattacked them and retook Vysokopolye

    Now the Hohols launching artillery fire and DRG incursions to Kharkov

    I know for a fact Russia has many units available for depolyment , something should be done to bolster the defense in those areas

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    Post  sepheronx Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:11 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Martyanov put it best just now:

    ...war, quoting our good ol' friend Carl von Clausewitz, is about "compelling the enemy to do our will." In order to do so, you destroy its armies and that means physical annihilation of enemy's war material economy and, yes, extermination of those military personnel who still want to fight.

    This is something that USSR never figured out and it cost them everything





    Cost them everything including up to current even and future events in Caucuses.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:21 am

    Akhmat forces have attacked relieving the Wagner group itself exhausted from months of operations in donbass

    They came off the front lines and are heading to get rest

    Chechens enter the fray

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    Post  Scorpius Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:35 am

    Broski wrote:
    Don't take my word for it either.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/552910-istanbul-peace-talks-explainer/

    Yeah, after these statements, Medinsky was branded a traitor, and since then he has not risked appearing in the public news space anymore. And the Kremlin is faced with such indignation of the people that in the future the policy of "compromise" with Ukraine may lead to a coup. So all such plans were abandoned, the country almost exploded with popular anger, and it is obvious that the political wing, eager for a truce with the West, has lost any influence.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:40 am

    Zelensky's wife making a swipe at Britain. Ukrainian officials blaming each other. Arestovich (again) admitting he lies sometimes. EU ambassador to Russia replaced. US ambassador to Russia replaced. Western media increasingly in chorus admitting the failure of sanctions against Russia.
    Denials. Retcons. Frantic debates.

    It's pandemonium

    It reminds me of Trotsky's account of Russia after suffering disaster at the front during WW1, from his book on the Russian Revolution

    Everybody was looking for someone upon whom to lay the blame. They accused the Jews wholesale of espionage. They set upon people with German names. The staff of the Grand Duke Nikolai Nikolaievich gave orders to shoot a colonel of the gendarmes, Myasoyedov, as a German spy, which he obviously was not. They arrested Sukhomlinov, the War Minister, an empty and slovenly man, accusing him – possibly not without foundation – of treason. The British Minister of Foreign Affairs, Grey, said to the president of the Russian Parliamentary Delegation: Your government is very bold if it dares in time of war indict its War Minister for treason. The staff and the Duma accused the court of Germanophilism. All of them together envied the Allies and hated them. The French command spared its army by putting in Russian soldiers. England warmed up slowly. In the drawing-rooms of Petrograd and the headquarters at the front they gently joked: “England has sworn to fight to the last drop of blood ... of the Russian soldier.” These jokes seeped down and reached the trenches. “Everything for the war!” said the ministers, deputies, generals, journalists. “Yes,” the soldier began to think in the trenches, “they are all ready to fight to the last drop ... of my blood.”

    In fact there's a lot in that chapter that has its parallel on the Ukrainian side of the war today

    In the matter of military supplies and finances, Russia at war suddenly finds herself in slavish dependence upon her allies. This is merely a military expression of her general dependence upon advanced capitalist countries, but help from the Allies does not save the situation. The lack of munitions, the small number of factories for their production, the sparseness of railroad lines for their transportation, soon translated the backwardness of Russia into the familiar language of defeat – which served to remind the Russian national liberals that their ancestors had not accomplished the bourgeois revolution and that the descendants, therefore, owed a debt to history.

    The first days of war were the first days of disgrace. After a series of partial catastrophes, in the spring of 1915 came the general retreat. The generals took out their own criminal incapacity on the peaceful population. Enormous tracts of land were violently laid waste. Clouds of human locusts were driven to the rear with whips. The external rout was completed with an internal one.

    The Duma again assembled on November 1. The tension in the country had become unbearable. Decisive steps were expected of the Duma. It was necessary to do something, or at the very least say something. The Progressive Bloc found itself compelled to resort to parliamentary exposures. Counting over from the tribune the chief steps taken by the government, Miliukov asked after each one: “Was this stupidity or treason?” High notes were sounded also by other deputies. The government was almost without defenders. It answered in the usual way: the speeches of the Duma orators were forbidden publication. The speeches therefore circulated by the million. There was not a government department, not only in the rear but at the front, where the forbidden speeches were not transcribed – frequently with additions corresponding to the temperament of the transcriber. The reverberation of the debate of November 1 was such that terror seized the very authors of the arraignment.


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    Post  ALAMO Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:44 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Akhmat forces have attacked relieving the Wagner group itself exhausted from months of operations in donbass

    They came off the front lines and are heading to get rest

    Chechens enter the fray

    Chechens and 2nd Army Corps Twisted Evil
    Ramzan already talked a bit about the matter at night Laughing
    This guy is crazy, when he even sleeps?!? Laughing Laughing

    Scorpius wrote:
    Broski wrote:
    Don't take my word for it either.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/552910-istanbul-peace-talks-explainer/

    Yeah, after these statements, Medinsky was branded a traitor, and since then he has not risked appearing in the public news space anymore. And the Kremlin is faced with such indignation of the people that in the future the policy of "compromise" with Ukraine may lead to a coup. So all such plans were abandoned, the country almost exploded with popular anger, and it is obvious that the political wing, eager for a truce with the West, has lost any influence.

    There is one more important aspect.
    Remember that this thing is back in March.
    An entirely different political, social, and economical situation if we take it today. Russian authorities abstained from any declarative position towards the ex-ukro territories well into Summer.
    It is only now, that Pushilin is not only saying about the republics, but "all Russian land & towns, build with the collective struggle of the whole Soviet nations". It is only now, the driving plates are being supplied in Cherson with new federative body numbers on them. And there is "Ukraine" in the document as "subject of the RF" Twisted Evil


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    Post  flamming_python Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:44 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:It's time to end this meat-grinder that London and Washington organized and their servants in Kiev continue to implement day after day for their own people.

    No.  

    The "special operation" continues until the Kiev regime collapses and is swept into the shitter, and the collective West is forced to swallow a total defeat on all metrics.

    The Red Army didn't stop at the Nazi border in 1945.  The Russian Army can't stop at liberating Donbass.  This fight is no longer about defending Russian-speakers from banderite Nazi filth. It is about Russia leading Eurasia and the Global South in a bid to kick out the legs of the Collective Wests corrupt global hegemony and usher in a fairer multipolar world where Washington and Brussels can no longer hold a knife at the throat of the rest of the planet and extort the nations of the World into submitting to the Empires will.

    Where did I mention stopping at the Donbass?

    I mean flush this regime down the toilet while the iron is hot

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:58 am

    flamming_python wrote:

    Where did I mention stopping at the Donbass?

    I mean flush this regime down the toilet while the iron is hot

    We both are watching the same materials bro.
    You can judge the level of zombification by your own, same as I.
    Those people are still not broken, in the very same way as the nazi German population was not broken well into 1945.
    As long as there was food, champagne from France, and Wochenshau was played at each theatre where they could watch the brave&gallant Reich soldiers destroying Bolschevismus.
    It started to crack with the paintings on the wall about how Ivan will kill them, so they must resist to the very end.
    It begins to be pushed down the toilet with hanged bodies marked "defetist".
    I know why you talk about that, but ... it is way to early yet.
    And the reason for it is a humane way the Russkie are fighting.
    An ordinary guy from Ivano-Frankovsk hardly feels any war in being, the only thing that buggs him is how to avoid the conscription ...
    The only sure thing is, that it seems like the line is closing, and it will happen very fast when it will be crossed.

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    Post  TMA1 Mon Sep 05, 2022 7:04 am

    You are scaring me, flamming python. My country sounds like something from a sad Tolstoy novel, yet with a streak of gay and retarded.

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    Post  Arrow Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:23 am

    Peskov announced Moscow's readiness for negotiations with Kyiv Shocked

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/09/4/7366036/
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    Post  ucmvulcan Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:38 am

    Arrow wrote:Peskov announced Moscow's readiness for negotiations with Kyiv Shocked

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/09/4/7366036/

    I think he means good faith negotiations. Ukraine and it's American and Eurotrash puppeteers are nowhere near wanting to have meaningful negotiations. This war will last for another two to five years.

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    Post  sepheronx Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:53 am

    It came to light that earlier Ukraine was willing to negotiate peace but UK forbide it. Boris flew all the way to Ukraine to tell Zelensky: No.

    This is just the Russians giving a carrot to Ukraine and be like "See, they aren't interested in peace".

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:58 am

    "Ukrainska Pravda"? Laughing Laughing Laughing
    Seriously?? Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  sepheronx Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:03 am

    ⚡Front summary for the morning of 09/05/22⚡

    Krivoy Rog direction: fierce battles in the Vysokopole region.

    Donetsk front: units of the People's Militia of the DPR attack in the area of ​​​​Pervomaisky.

    Bakhmut area: PMC "Wagner" and the Ukrainian army are engaged in heavy fighting on the eastern outskirts of the city

    https://t.me/wargonzo/8129

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    Post  Firebird Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:51 am

    Something I've noticed over the weekend.
    1)British politicians getting criticism that fuel bills will destroy up to 40% of businesses and put 1/3 of citizens into poverty. (The British state pension in total would not cover the predicted winter fuel bill).
    2)RT.com is no longer blocked by most browsers in Britain.

    I wonder if the worms that run British politics and media will try and wriggle out of it all.
    I wonder if we will start seeing gutter headlines like this:-
    "We were deceived by Fascists in the Ukraine. We will have to hold our noses and tolerate evil Putin until we are green energy independent"

    All garbage claims of course, but that is how Neoliberal vermin work.

    Remember the Western Establishment tried to evade liability for its genocide in Iraq with claims it was "misled by Iraqi opposition figures".
    Pack of lies then and we can expect a pack of lies now.

    Personally I think Russia needs to steam on while it has such a golden opportunity.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:04 am

    Any talk of "negotiations" is nonsense and I see no reason why some here fear that Russia will stop.
    After all the evil done by the Elensky regime, supported by Nazi-fascist-communist EUtopia and the Nazi-fascist-communist USA, there is no stopping there. Europe is now entering autumn, which Russia has been waiting for, and now we will see whose "sanctions" will have a bigger impact. Ukroshitstan must be demilitarized and de-Nazified, and a half-assed result is not the solution.
    In this conflict, the Russians were drawn into the conflict and were killed because of the West, and the Russian state CANNOT have decades in advance relations with the West as they were before the conflict. Because of all this, Russia will not stop and will go to the end. And as for Odessa and Nikolaev or Kharkov, we already know that Russia has not declared that it wants to occupy those areas. Whether we would like it to be so is another matter.
    Perhaps the Russians have no desire to occupy any of those cities because they are aware that at least half of the population of those cities would leave after the Russian takeover. Brotherhood with Ukroshitstan no longer exists and at least half of the population of that Nazi creation is permanently poisoned - there is no help. I want to hear from Ukroshitstan only one thing in the end - UNCONDITIONAL CAPITULATION, as I am sure that is Putin's goal. And for the territories and cities, which is secondary, because the capitulation of Ukroshitstan will put things in their place.
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    Post  Arrow Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:42 am

    Russian artillery in action.

    https://t.me/voenacher/28356

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    Post  limb Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:59 am

    A russian soldier or telegram complains that even though the Russian military had knowledge of the ukrainian attack, and they were outnumbered, they recieved absolutely no artillery or air support for more than 2 hours, and in general russian airforce activity in kherson in almost nonexistent in the last few days. Because of no support
    in the olgino and potemkino direction, VDV forces were partially encircled or pushed back with losses by the ukrainians. Thankfully the encircled unit broke through.

    Could lack of air support in visokopolye-olgino-potemkino mean that all available air assets were used against the andreevka bridgehead

    He says there was no ukrainian assault on energodar and claims a russian S-300 unit was destroyed.

    He says the ukrainians lost around 600 troops and 25 tanks yesterday, which is pretty good.

    Overral, he says russian troops are fighting valiantly, but the picture isnt as rosy as MoD propaganda is claiming. This is more dooming than rybar or voenkotenok.

    https://t.me/grey_zone/14887

    По линии фронта Николаевско-Криворожского направления в реальности находится от 5000 до 6000 солдат противника (без деревень). Наступал он через Ингулец общей численностью до двух БТГр. Бойцы спецназа заведомо выявившие планы противника по подготовке наступательных действий, начали запрашивать поддержку артиллерии, но артиллерия в лице «двестипьяной» просто молчала несколько часов. Авиация, скажете вы?! Про авиацию на этом направлении можете забыть, даже беспонтовые трюки с кабрированием здесь можно наблюдать чуть чаще, чем полнолуние. В итоге, как и писалось коллегой из «Канала специального назначения», бойцам ВДВ и ОБрСпН после попытки содержать наступления, не осталось ничего, кроме как отойти на подготовленные рубежи обороны, чтобы сохранить боеспособность подразделений. Но опять-таки, как и говорилось коллегой ранее, вышли не все. И эти павшие воины заслуживают вечную славу!

    В итоге вся работа бойцов, к которым я отношусь с безмерным уважением, складывается не благодаря, а вопреки. Так, например, на северо-востоке Николаевско-Криворожского направления, в районе населённых пунктов Ольгино и Потёмкино была осуществлена удачная попытка тактического окружения роты десантников в Высокополье. Двое суток их пытались разблокировать, в том числе силами 126-ой (отличные парни). В итоге, дорогу на отход десанта удалось пробить и они отошли на юго-запад, ВСУ же заняло Высокополье (есть фото-видео подтверждение).

    Когда ещё сам находился в районе вышеуказанных сёл, путём пересечения с бойцами ВДВ, узнал, что то самое соседнее Потёмкино, откуда наступали ВСУ, ранее было взято похожей тактикой, когда сначала наступали силы ТрО, изматывая и опустошая БК десантников, а потом пошли штурмовать силами добробата состоящего из белорусов, по словам участника, противника участвующего в заключительном штурме было порядка 70 человек. Не 700, как в можете заметить. Что касается этого участка, то считаю, что ВСУ предпримут попытку взятия Нововознесенского.

    Что касается Каховского водохранилища: десанта под Энергодаром не было. Ни морским путём, ни воздушным. Хотя это и так уже многие поняли. Но в защиту версии нашей стороны об активности противника на Каховском водохранилище и широкой части устья реки Днепр, могу сказать, что там и вправду наблюдается неконтролируемое передвижение водным путём с одной стороны на другую. Этим занимаются как и барыги, которые переправляют людей взад-вперёд с одних подконтрольных территорий на другие, так и контрабандисты. Но также отмечены и случаи проникновения на подконтрольную нами сторону украинских ДРГ, форсирование происходит обычно ночью на необорудованный берег с использованием принимающей стороной ИК-фонаря.

    Возвращаясь к прорыву, а именно к реке Ингулец, где ВСУ предприняли отчаянную попытку прорвать российскую оборону, но рискующие быть сами отрезанными и попавшими в окружение, всё-таки смогли закрепиться в ряде населённых пунктов и в данный момент ждут подхода сил через Ингулец.

    По потерям могу сказать, что противник за эти дни потерял убитыми ~600 человек, порядка 25 танков, и около двух десятков бронемашин. В авиации противник понёс потерями по одной единице Су-25 и Ми-8.

    Наши потери называть не буду, но можете по традиции войн делить на 5 и в целом не ошибётесь. Отдельно только стоит отметить, что ВСУ при неоднократном использовании РСЗО «HIMARS» всё-таки вывели из строя мост Каховской ГЭС (есть фото-видео подтверждение). Также то ли ДРГ, то ли «Байрактаром», а их сейчас работают на Херсонщине минимум две единицы, уничтожен ЗРК «Панцирь-С1» (есть фото-видео подтверждение). БПЛА противника взлетают с Криворожского района Днепропетровской области. Также, предположительно ракетой «HARM» запущенной с украинского МиГ-29 был уничтожен расчёт С-300.

    В целом, ситуация не критичная, наши бойцы дают неплохой отпор, просто это не всё так красочно и легко, как рисует пропаганда. И ещё раз уважение всем тем, кто выполняют эти боевые задачи не благодаря, а вопреки всему!
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    Post  Werewolf Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:14 pm

    If that is the same "Russian soldier" like from the video where an ukropian in russian uniform who barely can speak without ukro accent, then I am just laughing about it.

    There other thing is, Russian soldiers are prohibited to speak about it unless they are commander or anyone with decision making priveleges. So this "Russian soldier" sounds always like cheap propaganda. Anyone who makes statements always appears with name and otchestvo.

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    Post  Hole Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:18 pm

    ucmvulcan wrote:
    Arrow wrote:Peskov announced Moscow's readiness for negotiations with Kyiv Shocked

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/09/4/7366036/

    I think he means good faith negotiations.  Ukraine and it's American and Eurotrash puppeteers are nowhere near wanting to have meaningful negotiations.  This war will last for another two to five years.  
    He said Russia is ready to talk on how "Ukraine" will fullfill Russia´s conditions. Which means capitulation in diplo talk.

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    Post  Hole Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:20 pm

    Scorpius wrote:
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    Don't take my word for it either.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/552910-istanbul-peace-talks-explainer/

    Yeah, after these statements, Medinsky was branded a traitor, and since then he has not risked appearing in the public news space anymore. And the Kremlin is faced with such indignation of the people that in the future the policy of "compromise" with Ukraine may lead to a coup. So all such plans were abandoned, the country almost exploded with popular anger, and it is obvious that the political wing, eager for a truce with the West, has lost any influence.
    Which was the plan behind this "negotations". To see how the public would react. This gave the government a free hand.

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    Post  Werewolf Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:24 pm

    Hole wrote:
    He said Russia is ready to talk on how "Ukraine" will fullfill Russia´s conditions. Which means capitulation in diplo talk.

    First landlock that open air asylum and start hitting top head of RADA politicians with iskander in Kiew and then we can talk about capitulation. Currently, as long as the oligarchs which are on the US/EU payroll are alive and calling the shots, we know the US makes every call. Once Russia chops these heads, then there will be someone in position who either is not high in the payroll or someone who is not at all, which is hard to believe. However, there is no necessity nor sense in talking with someone who is throwing himself into your knife. Let them do it.

    Denazification is still top priority and the more are willing to die the better. The ones that are not Nazis are not fighting and hoping getting liberated or fleeing to Russia or Belarus.

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    Post  limb Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:32 pm

    Werewolf wrote:If that is the same "Russian soldier" like from the video where an ukropian in russian uniform who barely can speak without ukro accent, then I am just laughing about it.

    There other thing is, Russian soldiers are prohibited to speak about it unless they are commander or anyone with decision making priveleges. So this "Russian soldier" sounds always like cheap propaganda. Anyone who makes statements always appears with name and otchestvo.

    I mean he isnt disclosing much detail plus theres always going to be openings in OPSEC, since it can't be perfect. Hes the one posting a lot of photos of VDV in kherson. Did you read his TG channel?
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    Post  franco Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:38 pm

    [quote="limb"]A russian soldier or telegram complains that even though the Russian military had knowledge of the ukrainian attack, and they were outnumbered, they recieved absolutely no artillery or air support for more than 2 hours, and in general russian airforce activity in kherson in almost nonexistent in the last few days. Because of no support
    in the olgino and potemkino direction, VDV forces were partially encircled or pushed back with losses by the ukrainians. Thankfully the encircled unit broke through.

    Could lack of air support in visokopolye-olgino-potemkino mean that all available air assets were used against the andreevka bridgehead

    He says there was no ukrainian assault on energodar and  claims a russian S-300 unit was destroyed.

    He says the ukrainians lost around 600 troops and 25 tanks yesterday, which is pretty good.

    Overral, he says russian troops are fighting valiantly, but the picture isnt as rosy as MoD propaganda is claiming.  This is more dooming than rybar or voenkotenok.

    https://t.me/grey_zone/14887

    Not sure of the Russian soldier part, however the standard operating procedure of the Russians has been to entice the Ukrainians into advancing into fire "kill-zones" and this definitely has been the plan here.

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