Russian special military operation in Ukraine #22

flamming_python wrote:Russia always shoots itself in the foot by allowing Ukrs these phantom victories. Whether Snake island, or the Mi-24 raid on Belgorod, sinking of the Moskva and so on.
Even if this village is completely insignificant, it will be used to boost morale and cancel out the deaths of thousands of soldiers Zelensky sent to commit suicide by Russia. Cancel out the bungled attempt on the Zaporozhie NPP.

That Ukr propaganda is completely delusional and the many who listen to it more so is obvious, but they will to continue to throw themselves like lemmings to die to Russian artillery and air-power unless their morale is blown to pieces and their faith in their foreign puppet leadership is broken. And there's a fantastic opportunity to do so by the conclusion of this offensive by simply denying them any territorial gains whatsoever; or better yet commit to a counter-attack and throw them back from their starting positions, break their defensive lines and attempt to follow through into a rout. Force their units into a chaotic retreat and their morale along with them.
It's time to end this meat-grinder that London and Washington organized and their servants in Kiev continue to implement day after day for their own people. It does not serve Russia's best interests among other things, to end up in control of this barren shell-shocked land, where every male between 18-50 years old is either dead, crippled or has emigrated, and the rest are consumed by grief or anger.

flamming_python wrote:One way or the other, the chance is now.
Whatever Russia has to do it must do it now, against the backdrop of this catastrophic failure by Zelensky and his Western patrons. His authority will be at a low, morale will be at a low - and neither that nor the other should be allowed to recover.

franco wrote:
My understanding is the Chechens and 2nd Corps (Lugansk) doing the top of the line, PMC (Wagner) and 2nd Corps doing the middle while the southern part (your question) of the line is from the 1st Corps (Donetsk).

franco wrote:Apparently the Ukrainians doing their 4th (?) wave of attacks in Kherson. Appears to be mostly infantry attacks... cannot imagine there would be much else left. We will see after the "fog" lifts.  

flamming_python wrote:That Ukr propaganda is completely delusional and the many who listen to it more so is obvious, but they will to continue to throw themselves like lemmings to die to Russian artillery and air-power...

flamming_python wrote:...unless their morale is blown to pieces and their faith in their foreign puppet leadership is broken...

flamming_python wrote:...It does not serve Russia's best interests among other things, to end up in control of this barren shell-shocked land, where every male between 18-50 years old is either dead, crippled or has emigrated, and the rest are consumed by grief or anger...

flamming_python wrote:One way or the other, the chance is now.

Whatever Russia has to do it must do it now, against the backdrop of this catastrophic failure by Zelensky and his Western patrons...

VARGR198 wrote:Some of the statues of men seem to still have damage on them, but I think this has been left this way deliberately.

franco wrote:Apparently the Ukrainians doing their 4th (?) wave of attacks in Kherson. Appears to be mostly infantry attacks... cannot imagine there would be much else left. We will see after the "fog" lifts.  

Hole wrote:
Send the junk back to the Netherlands.

VARGR198 wrote:

Some of the statues of men seem to still have damage on them, but I think this has been left this way deliberately.

Russia and the Bandera regime had agreements back in April where Russia/LDPR would return all the territory taken excluding Crimea and part of the Donbass back to the Ukraine in exchange for more hollow promises to not join NATO. wrote:

psg wrote:Wtf is this bullshit, Russia needs to go all the way to moldova, take Odessa back, leave ukr landlocked.

They need to rout ALL the remnants of the scourge nazis, once and for all. It should of been done straight after the great patriotic war.

The opportunity is now, take it all back, bury them bastards, clearly they don't want to live for themselves or their families. They just hooked on the western bs promises, like a whore on drugs.

ALAMO wrote:Italy never had Leopard 2. They had some 1s indeed, and in the sole A2 version both imported from Germany and produced locally. I guess this is a mixed rumor. Maybe there was a talk about supplying Leopards, Leo1A2 was the only option on the table, and it turned to be Leo2 at the end for Russkie propaganda machine.

Hole wrote:Send the junk back to the Netherlands.

Arkanghelsk wrote:It seems hohols had some temporary success in this settlement

flamming_python wrote:It's time to end this meat-grinder that London and Washington organized and their servants in Kiev continue to implement day after day for their own people.