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    Post  Isos Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:12 pm

    Lot of russian AD activity in Crimea. It seem like ukrainians coordinated a drone attack or intel gathering in all Crimea.

    Plenty of videos in Rob Lee's twitter. I won't share it here, too many of them and nothing interesting to see.
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    Post  Erk Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:19 pm

    Isos wrote:Lot of russian AD activity in Crimea. It seem like ukrainians coordinated a drone attack or intel gathering in all Crimea.

    Plenty of videos in Rob Lee's twitter. I won't share it here, too many of them and nothing interesting to see.
    From what I understand, the drone attacks on Crimea were using commercial cinematic style drones, carrying an explosive.
    Not military drones, kind if an airborne IED.
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    Post  LMFS Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:42 pm

    See Russian concerns about ZNPP below:

    Power permit: there is no Russian military equipment at the ZNPP

    The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation provided evidence

    On August 18, the Russian Defense Ministry announced the absence of Russian military equipment at the Zaporizhia NPP and provided evidence, as well as detailed information about its shelling by Ukrainian armed groups. According to the ministry, Kiev is ready to initiate a "minor accident" at the nuclear power plant in order to achieve the entry of international troops into the south of the country. The Russian military warned about the radiation danger of such a scenario. Experts note that the Ukrainian authorities have been consistently preparing for its implementation for a long time.

    Provocation at the nuclear power plant
    The Russian Defense Ministry said on August 18 that it was ready to submit very high-resolution images to the IAEA, which show that there are no Russian weapons, especially heavy ones, on the territory of the Zaporozhye NPP. Only security units are located there.

    "We know that in the presence of a large number of military and commercial foreign satellites, the same information can be presented to the world community by the American side," said Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov, head of the radiation, chemical and biological Protection Forces of the Russian Armed Forces.

    Strikes on the plant's facilities can lead to a catastrophe on a scale comparable to Chernobyl
    He also said that since July 18, the VFU has shelled the territories of the ZAES and the city of Energodar 12 times: more than 50 explosions of artillery shells and five kamikaze drones were recorded. Strikes are being carried out from the direction of the cities of Marganets and Nikopol. Due to the shelling, auxiliary support systems for the station and life support facilities of Energodar were damaged.

    According to the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant General Igor Konashenkov, on August 19, artillery strikes are planned on the territory of the ZAES from Ukrainian firing positions located in Nikopol. This strike will coincide with the visit of UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres to Ukraine.

    "The blame for their consequences will be laid on the Russian Armed Forces," Igor Konashenkov said.

    As explained by Igor Kirillov, the Ukrainian authorities expect to achieve a noticeable propaganda effect, causing, as they believe, "a minor accident." It should result in a radiation leak, a violation of the integrity of the nuclear waste storage facility and the failure of the NPP reactor.

    In addition, Kiev plans to create a 30-kilometer exclusion zone around the plant, as well as the introduction of international forces and foreign observers on the territory of the NPP.

    According to Igor Kirillov, as a result, a situation similar to what happened at the Japanese Yama-1 nuclear power plant may arise at the ZAES. There, when backup generators and mobile pumps failed in the core, overheating occurred, which resulted in the destruction of the reactor and the release of radioactive substances into the atmosphere.

    In this scenario, the nuclear power plant will collapse its reactor facilities and release radioactive substances into the atmosphere, which will spread for hundreds of kilometers. According to the Russian Defense Ministry, in the worst-case scenario of a nuclear power plant disaster, infection can spread not only to Ukraine, but also to Belarus, Germany, Moldova, Poland, Romania, Slovakia and other countries.

    Igor Kirillov reminded that after the Chernobyl accident, more than 20 European countries were contaminated with radioactive isotopes. About 4 thousand people died from radiation exposure. Not counting the consequences of the forced evacuation, more than 5.5 million people received an increased dose of radiation.

    The nuclear scenario
    In Ukraine, and especially in Western countries, there are specialists who know how to influence nuclear power plants to cause an accident, Oleg Zheltonozhko, a specialist in chemical and radiation safety, told Izvestia.

    — Now they are experiencing several ways of technological impact, - said Oleg Zheltonozhko. — Nuclear power plants, like any large and complex technological facility, have vulnerabilities. This includes the power supply system that supports its vital functions, and other technological objects. Constant shelling of nuclear power plants is a test of strength and capabilities.

    According to Oleg Zheltonozhko, it is too risky to influence the NPP itself, as this can lead to unpredictable consequences. According to the expert, it is easier for the VFU to strike at an open storage facility with spent fuel elements (fuel rods).

    "This is a small playground," the specialist continued. - Getting into such a container of artillery shells will ensure local contamination — it will not affect a large area.

    Further, the nuclear incident, according to Oleg Zheltonozhko, will be promoted by the media and politicians.

    "They will be helped in this by the Ukrainian units of the RCBZ, which will scatter certain radioactive sources in the right places," he said. — The radiation background will be increased, which will launch a media campaign about how the Russians arranged and hide the accident at the station. Western countries will support Ukraine — their supervisors are most likely involved in the preparation of the operation.

    https://iz.ru/1381701/bogdan-stepovoi-andrei-fedorov/silovoe-razreshenie-rossiiskoi-voennoi-tekhniki-na-zaes-net

    Head of administration of Zaporizhia:

    — You have already mentioned the recent attacks on the Zaporizhia NPP and Energodar, and does this lead to an environmental catastrophe? Do the authorities of Zaporizhia plan to send experts to assess the situation? What measures will be taken to protect residents?

    — We have already invited UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres and the IAEA, and we have invited everyone. I have written letters to them, but so far, unfortunately, no one has responded to our letters. As for safety, Zaporizhia NPP is an object of increased radiological and radioactive danger. The consequences will be much more severe if you break the reactor itself and cause a chain reaction, there will be a hit to the waste, to the burial grounds that Ukraine has created during this time — and there are several thousand of them. From what I was shown, there is a lot of it — caesium, strontium, uranium, dangerous metals in the form of waste materials. Well, if you get into the burial grounds, there will be no explosion, but radioactive contamination will begin. And for the environment, this is, of course, a crazy problem.

    https://iz.ru/1377581/alena-nefedova/oni-mogut-voplotit-uzhasnuiu-istoriiu-na-atomnoi-stantcii

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:18 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Urluber wrote:
    Arrow wrote:
    Talks with Erdogan and the UN Secretary began in Lviv.

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #22 - Page 4 Facz4-OHa-UAUqv-TB


    They don't look like winning Very Happy
    https://www.stalkerzone.org/the-secretary-general-of-a-sick-person/
    Includes a "nice" pic of Guterres

    Someone is still discussing this guy?

    That he's a globalist stooge was obvious already by May, when he was echoing Zelensky's propaganda claims about a school being bombed (in a Kiev-controlled area of the Donbass) and scores of children being killed.
    https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/05/1117782

    Then in Mariupol he added to the chorus of those calling for a ceasefire, evacuations of civilians, etc.. along with the Pope and whatever other celebrities Langley assembled to stand up for their pet regime in the Ukraine.
    Granted those efforts did actually pay off and lead to Azovstal having some civilians evacuated. But overall he's simply a tool that acts within his limitations.

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    Post  Arrow Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:24 pm

    Simply corrupt as well as other such organizations, such as the IAEA...

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    Post  kvs Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:40 pm

    Fukushima resulted from the "emergency" switch off and not from the tsunami and earthquake. Russia is not going to shut
    down the NPP. The regime shelling can't breach the containment so there is no point in shutting it down. Also, Russia has
    the ability to deliver backup power for the pumps via portable nuclear reactors such as the one used for the Peresvet laser.
    The amount of power needed to run the pumps is tiny compared to the rated power output of the NPP.

    This is indeed a NATzO orchestrated farce. As noted, they seem to dream of a nuclear leak from somewhere. But this is
    not easy to achieve since even for cooling pools they would have to actually pulverize them. It's not a matter of leaking the
    water out and having recriticality. Even if there is no containment dome, the pool is designed not to leak like some
    backyard variant.

    Anyway, it is a Twatter war.


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    Post  Hole Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:42 pm

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    Look at the pic. He knows he is a nothing burger.

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    Post  Singular_Transform Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:08 am

    Belisarius wrote:[url=https://servimg.com/view/20436982/110]

    IT is not destroyed, only parked on the worng street in Kiev, and everything that can can be removed recycled into cash by the locals.


    Be carefull where you park in Ukraine.

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    Post  Singular_Transform Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:11 am

    kvs wrote:Fukushima resulted from the "emergency" switch off and not from the tsunami and earthquake.    Russia is not going to shut
    down the NPP.    


    Fukushima was destroyed due to a design mistake by the American GE, whom designed the plant.

    Any water cooled reactor sensitive for a full loss of coolant accident, and within few hours of a full shutdown from full power the leftower heat from a reactos is 7%-8% of the full power one.

    Means in the case VVER1000 we talk about 240 MWt of heat, that has to be transfered in the case of a full emergency shutdown.

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    Post  Belisarius Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:21 am

    In Melitopol, a terrorist attack was prevented, which was planned to be carried out by the special services of Ukraine.

    Around 12 noon on August 17, the Zaporozhye region police received a message about an explosion 500 meters from the Yuzhny checkpoint of Melitopol," said Volodymyr Rogov, a member of the main council of the Zaporizhzhya Regional State Administration.

    According to him, later it turned out that one of the four pillars of a high-voltage power line was blown up. Despite the fact that it collapsed, this did not affect the supply of electricity.

    As a result of the inspection of the territory on one of the three remaining power transmission towers, police dog handlers found another explosive with a timer that was set to 12:40.

    Explosives specialists successfully cleared and then destroyed the explosive device.
    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/5858

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:33 am

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    New weapons package for #Ukraine from the U.S. 👇

    - Rockets for HIMARS;
    - 16 105-mm howitzers and 36,000 shells for them
    - 15 Scan Eagle drones.
    - 40 MRAP machines
    - Anti-radar missiles
    - TOW missile systems
    - 1,000 Javelin anti-tank systems
    - 2,000 armor piercing rounds

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    Post  kvs Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:42 am

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    kvs wrote:Fukushima resulted from the "emergency" switch off and not from the tsunami and earthquake.    Russia is not going to shut
    down the NPP.    


    Fukushima was destroyed due to a design mistake by the American GE, whom designed the plant.

    Any water cooled reactor sensitive for a full loss of coolant accident, and within few hours of a full shutdown from full power the leftower heat from a reactos is 7%-8% of the full power one.

    Means in the case VVER1000 we talk about 240 MWt of heat, that has to be transfered in the case of a full emergency shutdown.

    The cooling pumps DO NOT consume 10% of the power of a reactor. Heat exchange is NOT THE SAME as the electrical energy required to
    run the pumps. It is dependent on the heat exchanger characteristics such as surface area and volume of water pumped.

    Fukushima was a disaster only because the idiots just transplanted the GE layout without making the MANDATORY revision to move the
    generator backup room to above the flood line. This was totally practical since there is a hill sufficiently high within a couple of hundred
    feet of the plant. They left original design of having the generators in a basement room, which got flooded. Totally retarded for a country
    prone to tsunamis with an NPP at basically sea level.

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    Post  kvs Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:44 am

    Belisarius wrote:In Melitopol, a terrorist attack was prevented, which was planned to be carried out by the special services of Ukraine.

    Around 12 noon on August 17, the Zaporozhye region police received a message about an explosion 500 meters from the Yuzhny checkpoint of Melitopol," said Volodymyr Rogov, a member of the main council of the Zaporizhzhya Regional State Administration.

    According to him, later it turned out that one of the four pillars of a high-voltage power line was blown up. Despite the fact that it collapsed, this did not affect the supply of electricity.

    As a result of the inspection of the territory on one of the three remaining power transmission towers, police dog handlers found another explosive with a timer that was set to 12:40.

    Explosives specialists successfully cleared and then destroyed the explosive device.
    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/5858

    The emerging pattern is that the terror shelling Kiev regime has graduated to outright terrorist tactics. I see more of this coming as they lose
    on the field of battle.

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    Post  mnztr Sat Aug 20, 2022 1:30 am

    flamming_python wrote:
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    Everything in that country is for sale

    No surprise that Zelensky tried to buy off his own chief of staff

    Unfortunately for Zelensky, turns out his chief of staff has already been bought by somebody else


    Both these guys have the same boss. Uncle Sam.

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    Post  mnztr Sat Aug 20, 2022 1:32 am

    JohninMK wrote:Doge
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    · 5h
    New weapons package for #Ukraine from the U.S. 👇

    - Rockets for HIMARS;
    - 16 105-mm howitzers and 36,000 shells for them
    - 15 Scan Eagle drones.
    - 40 MRAP machines
    - Anti-radar missiles
    - TOW missile systems
    - 1,000 Javelin anti-tank systems
    - 2,000 armor piercing rounds

    105's? I see they are dragging out the Vietnam war surplus lol.

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    Post  Singular_Transform Sat Aug 20, 2022 1:37 am

    kvs wrote:

    The cooling pumps DO NOT consume 10% of the power of a reactor.    Heat exchange is NOT THE SAME as the electrical energy required to
    run the pumps.   It is dependent on the heat exchanger characteristics such as surface area and volume of water pumped.  

    True, just an important data : after the reactor shutdown the remaining heat could evaporate 350 tons of water in every hour .

    Means the emergency boron water accumulators could cool the reactor for only a hour directly after the shutdown from full power.


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    Post  LMFS Sat Aug 20, 2022 1:45 am

    kvs wrote:The cooling pumps DO NOT consume 10% of the power of a reactor.    Heat exchange is NOT THE SAME as the electrical energy required to
    run the pumps.   It is dependent on the heat exchanger characteristics such as surface area and volume of water pumped.  

    Fukushima was a disaster only because the idiots just transplanted the GE layout without making the MANDATORY revision to move the
    generator backup room to above the flood line.   This was totally practical since there is a hill sufficiently high within a couple of hundred
    feet of the plant.   They left original design of having the generators in a basement room, which got flooded.   Totally retarded for a country
    prone to tsunamis with an NPP at basically sea level.  

    What I understood him meaning is that, even completely moderated, the reactor still generates a substantial amount (means many MW) of heat that needs to be removed in order to avoid a meltdown and subsequent containment breach. You don't need to leave the pumps without power a lot of time for the process to become irreversible, so I pretty much understand the alarms that Russia is ringing. Also if the pumps themselves are damaged, cooling circuit is damaged in any way and so on. A NPP is not designed to resist sustained, purposely aimed military attacks...

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:12 am

    If Russia leaves even one meter of Ukraine free, we know that this one meter is re -stuffed with weapons and the West, see Syria and IS, not to be attacked back itself.

    No, the mask has fallen and even the Versall states of EuRpoas, especially Germany, are not afraid to participate in such crimes (shelling of a nuclear power plant and manipulation of the truth).

    No, it clearly shows that this military surgery was and is correct, it is without alternative not in 2030 or 2035, when Putin is gone to become a victim of this CIA Terroband. All Russians, all Chinese, all Iranians, even all Germans and French and many others should open and understand their eyes, it is a defense war, something that is necessary to meet this CIA dirty terror before you break your country even more.

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    Post  Belisarius Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:18 am

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    Sevastopol air defence shot down a drone over the water.

    That makes 6 drones at least in 1 day. I think today was supposed to be a big attack on multiple locations but it’s seeming to be a failure.
    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/19946

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    Post  Stealthflanker Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:22 am

    I guess i can't really ask on how FSB and Rosgvardia is doing.. but I wish them good luck.

    If those drones are commercial grade.. odds are the controller are in Crimea itself.
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    Post  sundoesntrise Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:47 am

    Belisarius wrote:...

    Just take the L and move on. No amount of damage control, gaslighting and deflection can change your embarrassing emo-post - which was too much of an easy target to just leave untouched. You were in ALL CAPS babbling about 'Ukrainian propagandists' spreading misinformation - intentionally zooming in to cover only the last 24 hours. I mean, the bloody irony of such a statement - as if independant members of this site are not following the same TG channels as you do.

    As for what you said and what you didn't earlier on, I simply have no clue because I don't keep tabs. Too many simpletons parroting the same rusty narrative - one that everybody with 2 functioning braincells can see was and is pure horseshit. Back then it was, and now it still is. Long story short: don't trust your own eyes, ears and brains, listen to the propagandists' feel good nonsense instead.

    The whole affair is starting to resemble Snake Island. There too the Ukrainians 'didn't hit shit' and were just 'wasting resources' in 'suicide attacks' - even though near daily videos of large plumes of smoke coming from the the islet were for all to see. The sudden Russian withdrawal followed by the online dogpiling of anyone who dared to speak about this now forbidden part of history was the cherry on the cake. Huh, what's a Snake Island anyway?

    One just knows soon they are going for that bridge. Kissinger said there would be Ukrainian escalation in August and he wasn't kidding. Russia just pretends nothing is happening, as always. I can already imagine the damage control bots whispering in the background. 'It's just a bridge', 'we can rebuild it', 'Ukrops don't understand we can supply by boat as well' blablabla

    In a way I don't blame Putin and associates for looking down on the peasants. I mean, how in the world is it possible people still for this zero nutrition info-goyslop?
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    Post  sepheronx Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:01 am

    sundoesntrise wrote:
    Belisarius wrote:...

    Just take the L and move on. No amount of damage control, gaslighting and deflection can change your embarrassing emo-post - which was too much of an easy target to just leave untouched. You were in ALL CAPS babbling about 'Ukrainian propagandists' spreading misinformation - intentionally zooming in to cover only the last 24 hours. I mean, the bloody irony of such a statement - as if independant members of this site are not following the same TG channels as you do.

    As for what you said and what you didn't earlier on, I simply have no clue because I don't keep tabs. Too many simpletons parroting the same rusty narrative - one that everybody with 2 functioning braincells can see was and is pure horseshit. Back then it was, and now it still is. Long story short: don't trust your own eyes, ears and brains, listen to the propagandists' feel good nonsense instead.

    The whole affair is starting to resemble Snake Island. There too the Ukrainians 'didn't hit shit' and were just 'wasting resources' in 'suicide attacks' - even though near daily videos of large plumes of smoke coming from the the islet were for all to see. The sudden Russian withdrawal followed by the online dogpiling of anyone who dared to speak about this now forbidden part of history was the cherry on the cake. Huh, what's a Snake Island anyway?

    One just knows soon they are going for that bridge. Kissinger said there would be Ukrainian escalation in August and he wasn't kidding. Russia just pretends nothing is happening, as always. I can already imagine the damage control bots whispering in the background. 'It's just a bridge', 'we can rebuild it', 'Ukrops don't understand we can supply by boat as well' blablabla

    In a way I don't blame Putin and associates for looking down on the peasants. I mean, how in the world is it possible people still for this zero nutrition info-goyslop?

    And in everything you just said, neither did you provide facts or anything. Just horseshit. Then again, we all know this is another account

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    Post  TMA1 Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:11 am

    I am certain Russia is contacting other powers like India and China to come and observe as third parties. Any of you guys heard anything like this? They need to get China, Brazil, India, Malaysia, etc, to bring scientists and diplomats to observe the situation so that a record can be kept and keep IAEA honest. The "international community" isnt just western governments, even if our current insane governments might think it to be so.

    Also sundoesntrise could you maybe notch the shill monologing down a couple? And I just wondered. Is atlascub a wock puppet of vann7? He sure types and formats his posts the same. He even uses similar emojis.

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    Post  nomadski Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:52 am

    Well the scientists responsible and knowledgeable about this reactor are concerned about safety , given the attacks at current levels with artillery . And attacks can increase risks , if missiles are used . Therefore assuming the domed  reactor building itself remains intact , then cooling towers and pipes and possibly Turbine room and pumps and pipes , as well as dry storage areas of waste ( presumably underground ) are all vulnerable to attack . And can lead to anything from local radiation to even worse case scenario of reactor core over - pressure / over - heating ( even with control rod inserted ) pressure building in chamber and possible breach ? I think if cooling towers and pipes and pumps and / or Turbine room and pipes and pumps were singly or together damaged , then this could lead to catastrophic failing of reactor . I don't think the reactor complex was designed to withstand the loss of secondary and tertiary cooling . Only protection of core itself ? I think should be shut down . And any waste in dry storage underground , can have additional layer of Earth / concrete to cover it .
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    Post  ALAMO Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:13 am

    Belisarius wrote:
    That makes 6 drones at least in 1 day. I think today was supposed to be a big attack on multiple locations but it’s seeming to be a failure.
    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/19946

    One was hit and fall down on the roof of the Black Sea Fleet building, so expect a huge uga buga oh noooo Russkie lost in 3...2...1... Laughing

    Stealthflanker wrote:I guess i can't really ask on how FSB and Rosgvardia is doing.. but I wish them good luck.
    If those drones are commercial grade.. odds are the controller are in Crimea itself.

    Well, how they are working ... remember the village that was hit by Ukro art a few days ago, where a whole, multi-child family burned alive in the cellar?
    Here are the people who were "correcting" the artillery fire.
    Neighbors.
    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/60925
    Took a few days to catch them. Not bad.

    And the drone over Sevastopol was not commercial, but some military one.
    https://t.me/SIL0VIKI/52536

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