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Sprut-B wrote:Exclusive footage from the Azovstal catacomb
https://t.me/intelslava/28866
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flamming_python wrote:Finland is not a threat to Russia as it fails to meet the criteria. It has no claims over Russian territory, does not oppress ethnic Russians on their own lands, does not host terrorist organizations plotting attacks in Russia, does not make belligerent statements or state its intention to attack civilian or military infrastructure in Russia, does not hint at any plans for a WMD program aimed at Russia, and does not consider the idea of hosting anyone else's nuclear missiles targeted against Russia on its own territory
flamming_python wrote:
The Ukraine meanwhile fell down on all of these counts. It claimed the Crimea. It oppressed Russians in the Donbass and in wider Ukraine. It hosted and co-ordinated with all sorts of nationalist and Crimean Tatar Islamist extremists who were detained on occasion in the Crimea planning to carry out various attacks, or in some case actually carrying them out. It threatened to blow up the Crimean Bridge and other infrastructure in the Crimea. Zelensky voiced his preference for the Ukraine to restart its nuclear weapons program. And there was an accusation by Russia that the Ukraine was a potential hosting site for US missiles - presumably not an unfounded allegation.
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We can qualify Finland as a comprador regime for the US and one that's about to join an expansionist military alliance - but it is ultimately their right to do so, including to ensure their own security as well if they feel it's at risk. It's their right to be a US client state.
If Finland joins NATO but does not before or after, act to become a threat to Russia - then I don't see a big problem
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Arrow wrote:Ukrainians claim that they have already reached the border with Russia in the Kharkiv region. Maybe a fake. Currently, this operational direction is not important for Russia. It is a pity to keep soldiers there. The Ukrainians are selling it as always as a great success![]()
https://vk.com/video-123538639_456282908
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mr_hd wrote:Arrow wrote:Ukrainians claim that they have already reached the border with Russia in the Kharkiv region. Maybe a fake. Currently, this operational direction is not important for Russia. It is a pity to keep soldiers there. The Ukrainians are selling it as always as a great success![]()
https://vk.com/video-123538639_456282908
For Ukraine it is huge boost of confidence - they successfully defended second largest city, it will do miracles for their national consolidation.
Also coming to the border will force Russia to keep 20 battalions on their side in order to secure Belgorod and thus will have impact on number of Russian forces deployed in Ukraine too. Plus it allows Ukraine to disrupt supply lines from Belgorod to Donbass...
So nothing revolutionary but also not small things either.
At the same time M777 arrived on front in East and marks first time that Ukraine has weapon that is far more modern, precise and with longer range than anything they had ever before...
Russia is losing momentum of the second phase of the war btw.
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US howitzers they received came without digital fire correction control unit, so they won't be able to fire Excalibur rounds. They are just regular howitzers with range of up to 30km. They already have stuff like that in their arsenal.mr_hd wrote:Arrow wrote:Ukrainians claim that they have already reached the border with Russia in the Kharkiv region. Maybe a fake. Currently, this operational direction is not important for Russia. It is a pity to keep soldiers there. The Ukrainians are selling it as always as a great success![]()
https://vk.com/video-123538639_456282908
For Ukraine it is huge boost of confidence - they successfully defended second largest city, it will do miracles for their national consolidation.
Also coming to the border will force Russia to keep 20 battalions on their side in order to secure Belgorod and thus will have impact on number of Russian forces deployed in Ukraine too. Plus it allows Ukraine to disrupt supply lines from Belgorod to Donbass...
So nothing revolutionary but also not small things either.
At the same time M777 arrived on front in East and marks first time that Ukraine has weapon that is far more modern, precise and with longer range than anything they had ever before...
Russia is losing momentum of the second phase of the war btw.
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Isos wrote:Ukrainian reaching the borders is a real defeat for Russia. They are loosing their time retaking a stupid factory in mariupol with 3 nazi inside instead of gaining the war on the front.
They hope for a propaganda win in Azovstal but it won't be one since no one care about it.
There is a vig issue in decsion making center in russian army. This war could have been very quick if they did it like real professionals.
The choice of not decapitating the ukrainian military and political staff, not destroying ukrainian media and internet and not using their air force to bomb airfields was a totally dumb choice that no one will be able to explain at the end. Instead they choosed to dig in in a position war like in WW1 that kills lots of people and destroys too much of their hardware with a front that move only if you loose thousands of troops.
Su-24 should be day and night in the air at 10km up now that ukrainians are left with only manpads.
There is no sign of soviet or russian modern doctrines being implemented during this war.
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Isos wrote:That's a war.
They are dumb to call it a special operation and not doing this war the proper way. That's some dumb propaganda move totally useless to try to not be seen as an agressor when in fact it's just a war.
Keeping doing what they are doing will just make tens of thousands deads more and destroy all the cities where they fight.
Russian losses are also huge. Manpower and hardware. Thry can't afford to continue this way.
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Ispan wrote:Great article from Gleb Bazov
The distortion of what the Western media says about the war and what is really happening
For Spanish speakers
https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/05/16/mundos-para-lelos-y-la-horrible-realidad/
English speakers can read the original article on Telegram in this link
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/542
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Arrow wrote:Ukrainians claim that they have already reached the border with Russia in the Kharkiv region. Maybe a fake. Currently, this operational direction is not important for Russia. It is a pity to keep soldiers there. The Ukrainians are selling it as always as a great success![]()
https://vk.com/video-123538639_456282908
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sepheronx wrote:Isos wrote:That's a war.
They are dumb to call it a special operation and not doing this war the proper way. That's some dumb propaganda move totally useless to try to not be seen as an agressor when in fact it's just a war.
Keeping doing what they are doing will just make tens of thousands deads more and destroy all the cities where they fight.
Russian losses are also huge. Manpower and hardware. Thry can't afford to continue this way.
No it isn't. Their dead isn't huge nor equipment lost. Now you used to be rather rational but now becoming irrational using bombastic statements with no proof.
Yeah, they are at russias border, and have been for quite some time not just in one specific area.
So what?
If they went in Gung ho, there would far far more dead, even for Russia. That is what happened first. Slow and methodical is always better.
Let the Ukrainians go to russias border. There is a large force waiting for them right outside of Kharkov.
They aren't concentrating all their forces for azovstal either. They are moving in and around Izyum towards Slavyansk. It's a process of doing it slow but right.
If you feel that it's being done wrong, I suggest you tell that to Shoigu and also go volunteer and fight.
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flamming_python wrote:Arrow wrote:Ukrainians claim that they have already reached the border with Russia in the Kharkiv region. Maybe a fake. Currently, this operational direction is not important for Russia. It is a pity to keep soldiers there. The Ukrainians are selling it as always as a great success![]()
https://vk.com/video-123538639_456282908
Don't really get it. They were already at the border with Russia at the northern part of the Kharkov region, where there was no Russian presence since the withdrawal from Sumy/Chernigov/Kiev.
Where did they reach the border at here?
Likely just more Ukrainian BS. Taking back villages that were never captured, etc...
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Isos wrote:sepheronx wrote:Isos wrote:That's a war.
They are dumb to call it a special operation and not doing this war the proper way. That's some dumb propaganda move totally useless to try to not be seen as an agressor when in fact it's just a war.
Keeping doing what they are doing will just make tens of thousands deads more and destroy all the cities where they fight.
Russian losses are also huge. Manpower and hardware. Thry can't afford to continue this way.
No it isn't. Their dead isn't huge nor equipment lost. Now you used to be rather rational but now becoming irrational using bombastic statements with no proof.
Yeah, they are at russias border, and have been for quite some time not just in one specific area.
So what?
If they went in Gung ho, there would far far more dead, even for Russia. That is what happened first. Slow and methodical is always better.
Let the Ukrainians go to russias border. There is a large force waiting for them right outside of Kharkov.
They aren't concentrating all their forces for azovstal either. They are moving in and around Izyum towards Slavyansk. It's a process of doing it slow but right.
If you feel that it's being done wrong, I suggest you tell that to Shoigu and also go volunteer and fight.
Losses are huge for Russia. Just look at the losses of the paratroopers around Kiev. Plenty of deads and vehicles desteoyed. They were their best troops. Tank losses are also big just like their naval losses.
I'm not saying Ukraine will win. Of course russians will. I'm saying they don't make war as they were teached to do and make it last for too long which increases deads on both side including civilian deads.
Some game changing move were not done. Airports not destroyed, power supply still runing, internet which is a major weapon for ukrainians who coordinate their troop with it still running, command staff in Kiev with Zelensky taking pictures day and night. Iskanders used against lonely vehicles in fields for propaganda.
The only reason I find for this is that Putin wants a long war and keep the sanctions that hit back at europe. But that can be dangerous and hit back at Russia too. Because russian generals could have done this war much shorter.
If you know russian and soviet doctrine you would know that they are designing their military for huge movement onto the enemy and attacks in the rear on the command posts and communications. It's the total opposite of what they are doing in Ukraine. Zelensky and co would have been killed the first day according to their military doctrines.
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