Russian special military operation in Ukraine #8

Broski wrote:

flamming_python wrote:
It's a war to the last Ukrainian. Everywhere. Soon we will have Ukrainian kamikazes. Ukrainian suicide bombers. Ukrainian troops garrisoning cities fighting like its Stalingrad. Everything

All Putin's fault, of course. 

Question is what will our leadership do now that one bit of wishful thinking and hubris after another proves incorrect.

Finish what NATO started, because unlike you, they don't see a worthwhile future under the crushing boot of the West with nuclear-armed Nazis for neighbors.

Putin has done everything to convince Ukrainians that Russia wants to dissolve the Ukraine and add all these regions to Russia.
And who knows, maybe that's what the plan is.

And then like a chump he just invaded, with no actual legitimacy or attempts to explain anything either to his own people or to Ukrainians.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:

Hole wrote:
Heard reports that Pentagon is cutting down the procurement of Javelins. According to Orcs it´s to heavy, clumsy and needs to much time to set up.  Could have told them that.

I've yet to see UA use Javelin effectively, perhaps I missed something.

All I've seen of those is hundreds ending up in LDNR hands, together with the CLUs. Much the same with Rb 56/NLAW, AT4, Panzerfaust 3, etc. Even Finnish LAWs now.

All they've managed to do with these are few successful attacks, many more failed ditto, and then leaving entire stores of them as they retreat, providing Russia with western AT weapons in such numbers that the Russians at this stage aren't even interested and just hand them over to the LDNR.

You just can not hand people an weapon system and say "good luck".

I have a lot of experience with the panzerfaust 3 myself.
It was my little big headed friend i'd send to say hi to Taliban in fortifications sometimes....



Anyway.... flashback over.....back O.T.
It can come with an Dynarange ballistic computer. Awesome on paper, pretty dead weight in real life.

Yes, ...you can use it to get an firing solution on relatively fast vehicles like tanks on full speed or even slow flying helicopters.
Downside?. you shortly laze the target. revealing your position to either the tanks warning system or Helicopter.
So lesson 101 AT in airborne school. forget the shiny paperweight. learn to aim and fight with the (passive) basic system.

Also you need to extend the AT-standoff tube out of the warhead before you can execute in shaped charge (AT) attack.
Basically you take the rubber cap of its nose, then you need to pull out the standoff tube and screw it tight so the shaped charge triggers when it hits the target.
Otherwise you only give the Tank crew some pain in the ears and just piss them off as the shaped charge does not detonate, but instead its "explosive" mode meanth for anti personell shrapnell.

How many Nazi dummy's you think did the above all wrong?. just with the PZF-3?.
They never seen this weapon?. what do you think they do?.

I think the NLAW used well within minimum arming range firing at the T-72 is an good indication of the Nazi monkey levels of professionalism.

Also there is how you use AT weapons. its not as simple as pointing your rocket launcher at an tank and squeeze the trigger.
Optimal AT angle and knowing the weak spots of your target, and anticipating where it will be when your rocket arrives is crucial.

The more the angle is off of the 90 degree angle, the more armor the shaped charge needs to penetrate.
And some AT weapons just might bounce off or fail to trigger the standoff detonator if the angle is too much.

flamming_python wrote:
I told all you guys already, <loads of defeatist nonsense>

FFS... I didn't think i'd need to put up with this sort of defeatist bullshit on this forum. With navel-gazing self-defeating attitudes like this, its no wonder the commies ended up fcking the USSR and collapsing it.

The matter of Ukraine needs to be solved once and for all. Russia would be stupid to take these conditions.

flamming_python wrote:

Broski wrote:

flamming_python wrote:
It's a war to the last Ukrainian. Everywhere. Soon we will have Ukrainian kamikazes. Ukrainian suicide bombers. Ukrainian troops garrisoning cities fighting like its Stalingrad. Everything

All Putin's fault, of course. 

Question is what will our leadership do now that one bit of wishful thinking and hubris after another proves incorrect.

Finish what NATO started, because unlike you, they don't see a worthwhile future under the crushing boot of the West with nuclear-armed Nazis for neighbors.

Putin has done everything to convince Ukrainians that Russia wants to dissolve the Ukraine and add all these regions to Russia.
And who knows, maybe that's what the plan is.

And then like a chump he just invaded, with no actual legitimacy or attempts to explain anything either to his own people or to Ukrainians.

You have not been paying attention.

Further operations in Mariupol:

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Indications that another huge cruise missile volley is coming in. Not confirmed yet, but UA has gone into high alert and air raid sirens are on in multiple large cities.

The attack earlier today on Starokostantinov apparently destroyed the largest remaining strategic fuel depot UA had.

There's been massive explosions in multiple cities over the past hours, and heavy sustained ditto in Kiev (so likely not only cruise missiles, but long-range artillery or even aerial bombing too).

Scott Ritter has done a decent take on the war so far.

Airbornewolf wrote:DPR troops using drones to keep real-time track of Ukrainian hostiles.

https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/A-good-example-of-the-usefulness-of-quadrocopters-from-the-internal-troops-of-the-DPR.:b

Why we had to wait month for drone videos. It shows all. Ukrainian troops hiding between civilian population, hostages and etc.

LMFS wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Stealthflanker is another flaming retard.

He knows very well what is happening but asks stupid questions to create a venue of loss in Ukraine.

There wasn't a Kiev offensive. It's always been and still is digging in and surrounding it.

Christ sakes we have too many morons here.

He is more of an outside observer and is more interested normally about the military side of thinks, probably he has not been following things like we do. But he is not a troll from what I can say

Possibility but unlikely. It doesn't take much to go back and read a page before his to get the answer.

This is a general problem here - lack of reading and more obtuse observations and questions.

par far wrote:The matter of Ukraine needs to be solved once and for all.  Russia would be stupid to take these conditions.

Russia made their demand. Any deviation from it has been stated that the demands will get harder for Ukraine.

Reason why Ukrainian authorities are sidestepping is because they aren't in Ukraine. So they don't care what happens to the rest of the country or if the war continues indefinitely.

OminousSpudd wrote:Scott Ritter has done a decent take on the war so far.

I am not a military but I understand some of the tactics that Russia using.

I just hope Russia solves the Ukraine issue once for all and does not sign any idiotic agreement.

So flaming, I'm gonna ask, when are you gonna get your Nazi supporting ass over to Ukropistan to fight Russians? Still wondering.

Freak.

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:It is really difficult to find information about Russian strikes inside Ukraine and the results now, due to the fact that Ukrainians face prosecution (and 15 years in jail according to Zelenskys latest laws, though often simply fast-forwarded to summary execution) if they share anything at all of what they've seen.

Ukrainian locals have confirmed some of tonight's strikes, but anonymously and with heavily blurred photos not to give any details away that could lead to them being IDd by the authorities.

Just crazy.

miketheterrible wrote:

par far wrote:The matter of Ukraine needs to be solved once and for all.  Russia would be stupid to take these conditions.

Russia made their demand. Any deviation from it has been stated that the demands will get harder for Ukraine.

Reason why Ukrainian authorities are sidestepping is because they aren't in Ukraine. So they don't care what happens to the rest of the country or if the war continues indefinitely.

It may not matter for Ukrainian authorities but it matters for Russia, Russia is now in a position to solve this issue once and for all, do not kick it down the road.

The territory that Russia has taken or takes should not be returned.

par far wrote:

OminousSpudd wrote:Scott Ritter has done a decent take on the war so far.

I am not a military but I understand some of the tactics that Russia using.

I just hope Russia solves the Ukraine issue once for all and does not sign any idiotic agreement.

Even you are getting annoying. Stfu already. You must really think Russians are so fucking dumb and desperate that they will sign an agreement?

Patience is needed. They are doing a fantastic job with a small contingent (I see people here throw bullshit numbers from NATO countries like 200K troops in Ukraine. LOL. No, not even half of that).

miketheterrible wrote:So flaming, I'm gonna ask, when are you gonna get your Nazi supporting ass over to Ukropistan to fight Russians?  Still wondering.

Freak.

He is of those assholes that pretends to be Russian but is a 5th and 6th column cocksucker.

miketheterrible wrote:

par far wrote:

OminousSpudd wrote:Scott Ritter has done a decent take on the war so far.

I am not a military but I understand some of the tactics that Russia using.

I just hope Russia solves the Ukraine issue once for all and does not sign any idiotic agreement.

Even you are getting annoying. Stfu already. You must really think Russians are so fucking dumb and desperate that they will sign an agreement?

I am on edge right now, I won't lie.

I am going to be pinned 24/7 to this site and others for next 4-6 weeks.

Russia has them by the throat, don't let them go.

i know some of you are following me on odysee already.
But i updated the channel with the most suitable footage for today:

https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8

153 vids and counting, ill slowly start to add historical footage as well now the views generate an steady supply of surplus bitcoin.

par far wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

par far wrote:

OminousSpudd wrote:Scott Ritter has done a decent take on the war so far.

I am not a military but I understand some of the tactics that Russia using.

I just hope Russia solves the Ukraine issue once for all and does not sign any idiotic agreement.

Even you are getting annoying. Stfu already. You must really think Russians are so fucking dumb and desperate that they will sign an agreement?

I am on edge right now, I won't lie.

I am going to be pinned 24/7 to this site and others for next 4-6 weeks.

Russia has them by the throat, don't let them go.

Why next 4 - 6 weeks? What happens afterwards?

You are one of the more level headed members here but that seriously, that is what KVS would say "Chicken little" nonsense.  What exactly creates the fear that warrants this?  Russia has been in Syria for years now and still slowly gaining more land and assistance to Assad.  The war just started for crying out loud. Russias first objective is clear as crystal and they are seeing through it. Once DNR and LNR gain all their territory back, then it will get interesting. At that point, majority of Ukraines fighters (Azov, what little of the army and such) will be gone and so there is little to contest Russia beyond Kiev. Kiev will be the last hardened location.

LMFS wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Stealthflanker is another flaming retard.

He knows very well what is happening but asks stupid questions to create a venue of loss in Ukraine.

There wasn't a Kiev offensive. It's always been and still is digging in and surrounding it.

Christ sakes we have too many morons here.

He is more of an outside observer and is more interested normally about the military side of thinks, probably he has not been following things like we do. But he is not a troll from what I can say

Agreed, Stealthflanker is certainly not a troll.

Big_Gazza wrote:

LMFS wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Stealthflanker is another flaming retard.

He knows very well what is happening but asks stupid questions to create a venue of loss in Ukraine.

There wasn't a Kiev offensive. It's always been and still is digging in and surrounding it.

Christ sakes we have too many morons here.

He is more of an outside observer and is more interested normally about the military side of thinks, probably he has not been following things like we do. But he is not a troll from what I can say

Agreed, Stealthflanker is certainly not a troll.  

Then I owe him an apology. Sorry @stealthflanker.

From the analysis by Scott Ritter and others we are now entering the final stage of the Donbass front. The true intentions of
the Russian side will emerge soon. I see no support for the idea that Russia will leave any time soon. Instead I expect there
to be a collapse of the regime forces towards the Polish border.

I am just not sure whether Russia should hunt down the retreating Kiev regime forces like the US did with the Iraqi forces.

Good report from Patrick Lancaster in Mariupol



They do seem to blame the Ukraine for everything. Occupying houses like the Americans taught them

The result of not allowing civilians to exit the city