Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7

par far wrote:Dima, India is in a complicated place, it has to balance between the west and Russia. Some of the elites have strong business ties with the west, I think India is doing a decent job of balancing everything, they may have abstained in the UN vote but they are buying Russian oil and other deals with Russia.

As for the media, most of it is pro west and some pro Russia.

My dear, there is no pro-Russia media in India. What people misunderstand as pro-Russian media is just insecure guys in media who lack clear vision of whats happening and conviction on the matter, but being obliged to "sound" and "look" neutral, coz of Indian PM.

I don't want to go offtopic but I would like to give a very brief history of how things went.... Maybe some other time I shall elaborate it a little longer in appropriate thread.

# First of all India was ruled by the colonial western powers with the loyalty of Indian mercenaries or traitors or what ever terms suits them best. be it the military & civilian establishment, including foreign services, police, intelligence, judiciary, etc.

# The "independence" that happened in 1947 was basically a transfer of power, retaining the entire stooges of the colonial empire in every establishment of independent India. This is exactly what happened in almost every single colony that got "independence" from their colonial masters through a peaceful transition. The system was NOT PURGED!
This is in contrast to what we saw w.r.t Germany after reunification. Every single establishment was purged.

# So it was these colonial stooges which made the strong foundation and the reason why allmost all the initial deals w.r.t military, etc were with their former masters & allies.
There was sort of a status quo. And all those who deviated from this line, was basically branded as Russian stooges, etc. This has been the - silent - norm since many decades.  You will find this very much in the military. A hell load of western fanboys exists, courtesy their parent/grandparents colonial mercenary heritage.

# And its those decades, which is usually painted as India being in the Soviet/Russian camp, that India actually showed some spine and had voice other than that of their colonial masters.

# What people see now, is almost similar to what India has been even in the 70-90 period, not exactly in the Soviet/Russian camp, but playing out "neutral" to appease the west due to the strong "origin" of the Indian establishment.

And even without India being firmly in the Soviet/Russian camp, the Russian's gave so much support to India, which hardly anyone in India value or appreciate now and instead blame all bad things in India to its association with Soviet/Russia.

Isos wrote:Tors aren't ditched. The ones we saw were either destroyed or some old models that russia doesn't operate but ukrainian have from soviet leftover.

Just like those tunguske parked with no signs ob them that are very likely ukrainians that they used for propaganda lies.

On twitter they are full of shit. Always lying.

There is Russian equipment is destroyed in Ukraine but most of it is old and Soviet ear.

Russia has not put the latest equipment in use in Ukraine for ground froces.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:There are claims Ukraine captured a Krasukha 4 and will be giving it to the US.

If true that is a massive blunder, why wasn't such an important system destroyed if they had to ditch it.....

Hope the guys are watching it from above and will give a treatment just like the S300 got, if things start moving.

C-300 in #Kiew destroyed
https://twitter.com/dusics/status/1506546702790049794

Dima wrote:

par far wrote:Dima, India is in a complicated place, it has to balance between the west and Russia. Some of the elites have strong business ties with the west, I think India is doing a decent job of balancing everything, they may have abstained in the UN vote but they are buying Russian oil and other deals with Russia.

As for the media, most of it is pro west and some pro Russia.

My dear, there is no pro-Russia media in India. What people misunderstand as pro-Russian media is just insecure guys in media who lack clear vision of whats happening and conviction on the matter, but being obliged to "sound" and "look" neutral, coz of Indian PM.

I don't want to go offtopic but I would like to give a very brief history of how things went.... Maybe some other time I shall elaborate it a little longer in appropriate thread.

# First of all India was ruled by the colonial western powers with the loyalty of Indian mercenaries or traitors or what ever terms suits them best. be it the military & civilian establishment, including foreign services, police, intelligence, judiciary, etc.

# The "independence" that happened in 1947 was basically a transfer of power, retaining the entire stooges of the colonial empire in every establishment of independent India. This is exactly what happened in almost every single colony that got "independence" from their colonial masters through a peaceful transition. The system was NOT PURGED!
This is in contrast to what we saw w.r.t Germany after reunification. Every single establishment was purged.

# So it was these colonial stooges which made the strong foundation and the reason why allmost all the initial deals w.r.t military, etc were with their former masters & allies.
There was sort of a status quo. And all those who deviated from this line, was basically branded as Russian stooges, etc. This has been the - silent - norm since many decades.  You will find this very much in the military. A hell load of western fanboys exists, courtesy their parent/grandparents colonial mercenary heritage.

# And its those decades, which is usually painted as India being in the Soviet/Russian camp, that India actually showed some spine and had voice other than that of their colonial masters.

# What people see now, is almost similar to what India has been even in the 70-90 period, not exactly in the Soviet/Russian camp, but playing out "neutral" to appease the west due to the strong "origin" of the Indian establishment.

And even without India being firmly in the Soviet/Russian camp, the Russian's gave so much support to India, which hardly anyone in India value or appreciate now and instead blame all bad things in India to its association with Soviet/Russia.

I agree with this, this is how India. It may never change.

Arkanghelsk wrote:Ukrainian success? If losing your whole army against 700 men is a success , then NATO does not have a good chance!

And yes western nations have joined, not officially but the entire western effort is in this war

More than 5 AWACS are providing support, in real war Mig 31 would have blinded NATO

Dick-cheese gargling, Swedish cock-holsters should stick to what they know best...spreading his ass cheeks to provide warm shelter for refugees. Refugee's    will cum     welcome!

"Lies: Melitopol, Berdyansk and Mariupol were left without humanitarian aid. Zelensky declares this.

Truth: All liberated cities receive humanitarian aid from the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Russian Federation. Including to Melitopol, and to Berdyansk, and to Mariupol. These include food and building materials.

This material is buried in the cemetery of fakes. Rest in peace and may your creator be cursed."





https://t.me/boris_rozhin/36000




https://t.me/boris_rozhin/36011

About the krashuka story here is the picture of what they claim is a krashuka :




Again a proof ukrainians lie and don't evenbput some effort in the lies they make. Krashuka is a mobile system and not a container. All its parts are on trucks.

"Another video with the detained Ukrainian Armed Forces trying to find a way for seepage from the boiler.
Not everyone wants to become "cyborgs", many want to live, so the closer the circle of encirclement, the more desperate the attempts to save their own skin will become."


https://t.me/boris_rozhin/36014

"The denazification of Ukraine continues.

In Kherson, employees of the Russian Guard detained two accomplices of the Nazis.

During the operation, the National Guard officers detained several leaders of neo-Nazi formations and accomplices of the SBU."


https://t.me/boris_rozhin/36019

"Kadyrov reports that they have taken the administration building of Mariupol. It is not entirely clear what is meant - another district administration or the city council building. We are waiting for a photo with a flag."


https://t.me/boris_rozhin/36028

"Our military commander was able to visit one of the houses in the center of Mariupol (89 Metallurgov Avenue), recently liberated by the allied forces from neo-Nazis from the so-called "Azov Regiment". Almost every apartment, almost every corridor or flight of stairs - everywhere lie the corpses of murdered neo-Nazis.


Local residents say that on the eve of the start of urban battles, they were expelled from their own apartments, which were turned into firing points."


https://t.me/boris_rozhin/36042

"A long column of cars with residents of Mariupol, who were able to leave the city after the Nazis were thrown back from their homes."


https://t.me/boris_rozhin/36055

The West has increased the supply of weapons to Ukraine. Clear indication they do not want this war to come to an end anytime soon. Some prominent Western commentators are now suggesting that Ukraine should strike deep inside Russia.

Kremlin should therefore take this war inside UK, US and Canada. Start by supporting secessionist forces in these countries including minority groups who have always been discriminated by the state. This is the only option available to keep the West far away from Russia's borders.

par far wrote:"Our military commander was able to visit one of the houses in the center of Mariupol (89 Metallurgov Avenue), recently liberated by the allied forces from neo-Nazis from the so-called "Azov Regiment". Almost every apartment, almost every corridor or flight of stairs - everywhere lie the corpses of murdered neo-Nazis.


Local residents say that on the eve of the start of urban battles, they were expelled from their own apartments, which were turned into firing points."


https://t.me/boris_rozhin/36042

Eh got what was coming to them.

Azov are Nazi's so no pity from me, good job Ruskies ya did well here

"From the very first days of the start of the special military operation in Ukraine, our fighters have been fighting the militants of nationalist battalions. Thousands of volunteers are rushing to help their brothers from the Chechen Republic. Each of them, at the cost of his life, is ready to defend the inhabitants oppressed by Bandera.

Today, a whole battalion of volunteers arrived in Ukraine to take part in this noble mission against nationalists and shaitans. The newcomers were met by my dear BROTHER Adam Delimkhanov. He once again reminded of the true mission of the Russian side - to put an end to the tyranny of the Kiev regime, thoroughly destroy nationalism and free the fraternal Ukrainian people from many years of imprisonment. Volunteers are eager to fight, they want to be in the thick of things as soon as possible.

I never cease to admire the heroism and courage of our guys, their indomitable desire to fight side by side with their brothers in the interests of our Motherland. Very soon, these brave warriors will erase this vile, vile phenomenon called "nationalism" from the pages of Ukrainian history."


https://t.me/RKadyrov_95/1522

Americuntski NPC's: "We care about civilians!!!1!!!1! We don't resort to Scorthed Earth!!!1!"

par far wrote:"From the very first days of the start of the special military operation in Ukraine, our fighters have been fighting the militants of nationalist battalions. Thousands of volunteers are rushing to help their brothers from the Chechen Republic. Each of them, at the cost of his life, is ready to defend the inhabitants oppressed by Bandera.

Today, a whole battalion of volunteers arrived in Ukraine to take part in this noble mission against nationalists and shaitans. The newcomers were met by my dear BROTHER Adam Delimkhanov. He once again reminded of the true mission of the Russian side - to put an end to the tyranny of the Kiev regime, thoroughly destroy nationalism and free the fraternal Ukrainian people from many years of imprisonment. Volunteers are eager to fight, they want to be in the thick of things as soon as possible.

I never cease to admire the heroism and courage of our guys, their indomitable desire to fight side by side with their brothers in the interests of our Motherland. Very soon, these brave warriors will erase this vile, vile phenomenon called "nationalism" from the pages of Ukrainian history."


https://t.me/RKadyrov_95/1522

Kadyrov explains the Russian mission better than Putin does

kvs wrote:

Isos wrote:About the krashuka story here is the picture of what they claim is a krashuka :

https://i.servimg.com/u/f71/19/35/56/92/fod5kd10.jpg

Again a proof ukrainians lie and don't evenbput some effort in the lies they make. Krashuka is a mobile system and not a container. All its parts are on trucks.

The container geometry is wrong.

It is a KK4/6 standard container, flipped over on its side so the floor is to the left.

I've reiterated this for more than a day.

It's probably a soup kitchen or some such.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Like I would trust a thing CNN says.

Says who? anyone with a functional mind and not one tainted by extreme bias.

Of course I stay, My country is not at war with Russia but if called I would go.

Your an idiot btw before Russia ever fired a shot we made it clear, NATO will not put boots on the ground and why would we? its Ukraine.

But by all means go Join the war in Ukraine, but you won't and will talk tough and that's just how people like you are.

Let's be fair here.

From the numbers we have about military forces in Europe we can automatically conclude who isn't even considered an Army and that is Germany, Estonia, Latvia, Lithunia, Norway, Italy, Spain ,Portugal, Slovania, Czecch Rebuplic, Slovakia, Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, Netherlands, Danemark and Croatia. This means only "candidates" are left would be the UK, Turkey and Poland. Looking at the current deployed and reserve troops for Poland and UK, you get a very small number of fighting capable soldiers. UK with 200.000 troops plus a reserve of up to 40.000 additionally. 1/3 of these are service members for supporting roles. The standing army is roughly 160.000 soldiers. 235 Helicopters of which only roughly 24 Attack Helicopters, 120 Jets. 227 Tanks, 90 Artillery and 126 towed artillery and roughly 35-40 MRLS. Logistically the UK has displayed a rather poor performance with lot of help by other NATO members to deploy military equipment to Iraq. The logistics wouldn't support any significant amount of troops to even take on the Ukraine, let alone on Russia. Poland is even worse when it comes to this, fewer jets, helicopters, modern equipment and  barely any logistical capabilities on their own.

With the Ukrainians military power which was pretty well displayed with additional outside reconnaissance and intel for tactical movement for its units and forces. By 24th of February, the Ukraine had a significantly larger military than any european NATO member, despite its economical hardship it sustained quite a large military and equipment. NATO forces seem to be very much focused on its Air force and capabilities to bomb countries. This approach would be also hard for NATO and unbearable for one NATO member alone even with the massive use of cruise missiles to destroy the superior Ukrainian IADS. With its S-300 batteries it would be able to intercept quite a significant amount of western cruise missiles which are not hypersonic and have not been upgraded for quite a long time.

I can confidentley claim, that the Ukraine would be to big to fight for any european NATO country without the combined effort, which even then is quite limited due to very limited logistical capabilities of european NATO members, which mostly require French, US and british logistics to have any significant amount of military equipment moved from A to B.

The only opponent that would have on paper a chance against the Ukraine would be Turkey, but these guys play their own Game of Thrones and will certainly not aid you when you call them. They are not stupid but will act accordingly to their opportunistic desires to bite a chunk off, if they can.

There are videos of droves, literal droves of dead Azovites from Mariupol being spread now. Gruesome as I said earlier.

Looks like they were completely cornered and then just mowed down.

I am at a loss for words hearing of the death of two of the children of Auslander. I believe these were adopted war orphans he mentioned in some posts. I know the eldest boy when he grew up joined the militia a couple years ago. It's awful but it's to be expected. I don't know his name or what he is like but I can figure out some guy like Zhoga, that lad who grew up with the war and was the commander of Motorola battallion and was killed at Volnovakha.

It's bad to see these young guys and men die, but somebody must go to war else the war would never end and the women and children would be killed. It's sad, I got sad seeing the bodies of Russian soldiers but that's war. Somebody has to pay the price. When war comes to your country, you have no choice, you can't expect others to fight for you. Still that Auslander boy volunteered, when he need not, makes his sacrifice even nobler. He died so some other didn't have to. For that I thank him, and thank Auslander. You can be proud of him.

The loss of your daughter is simply awful. A soldier has to expect wounds and death, but that is simply beastly murder. Brave girl too. She must have known the ukros fire at ambulances and when you are in a war zone and within the range of artillery, it can fall anywhere. Still that 's not just bad luck, but sheer murder.

This is not my war. I am not Russian but my wife from Crimea is. Now that Russia is at war it affects us, but not really much. It makes our lives harder, but we don't fear for her parents there nor we have relatives or friends in the army. Our life for better or for worse is in Spain. Still, we feel this war as our own, and it's a war Russia must win, or else there's no hope for humanity. I have finally got a nice living in my country, but I have no hope for the future and even with this war I still have the hope that if life gets worse here, my daughters will always have the option to going to Russia.

This is not my war, really, but I feel it as my own and I grieve your loss as if it had been in family. Back in 2014 I supported the Donbass people out of humanity and justice, somebody has to tell the truth. I know hardly anybody reads my blog, and even if tens of thousands did, it wouldn't change anything. People just can't handle the truth, but I write it anyway. It's the only thing I can do, I can't fight but at least if I can't influence the stupid masses at least I can reveal the truth to those that seek it.

It might even give a glimmer of hope to Russian people, to know that not everybody in the West is a brainwashed Russia hater, that we are just victims and hostages of our tyrannical governments, wich in turn are just puppets of the USA that not every European is evil, just misguided.

I really can't say anything that eases the pain of Auslander and her wife about the loss of their adopted children, anymore that I can console the widows and mothers of Russian soldiers. It makes it sadder that these two children, having survived the killing of their parents have died now that war will end finally, and victory will be soon.

It feels such a waste of life. But their sacrifice is not in vain. I sincerely believe so. Their courage and sacrifice of thousands like them means that the children of say, Dokuchaevsk, that were cowering in the basements from Ukrainian shelling yet again for so many years, like all the children of Donbass, one day soon, the war will be over and they will have at long last a life worth living.

It's heart rending to read the stories of Volnovakha and Mariupol, were scores of people are killed everyday by the Ukrops, either being shot while attempting to flee or dead under the shelling, but perhaps we shouldn't focus on the tragedy or those few hundred that are killed but the miracle that so many thousands are saved.

Mariupol is a disaster. A Pyrrhic victory, perhaps. But what could have be done instead? Hesitating and allowing the Azov nazis to remain there would prolong the war and cause even more deaths and suffering. And the people of Mariupol were doomed anyway, they would be killed by the Ukranazis or die of thirst, starvation and exposure. A siege was not really an option, not after they blew up a building burying hundreds of people under the rubble on the first days. Let's pray few of these storming of cities will be needed.

One way or the other we (allow me to speak as a Russian for once, because your dead are also my own), we are going to lose thousands of people, both brave warriors and unfortunate civilians. Those that make it, like that couple and their newborn son rescued from Mariupol, will owe it to the efforts of thousands like Auslander children.

They did their duty and saved lives. Theirs was a tragic and short life, but they achieved most and did more good than most people will in their life time. Their death was not in vain.

I haven't cried like this since 2014.  One day, when my little daughters grow up, I hope to be able to teach them and then they in turn their children, to be worthy of being Russian, of living up to the example of Auslander children and all others. If I achieve that, then my life will have been worth it.

Johninmk

E3 doesn't work well, because it is public knowledge, that 5 to 6 E3 Sentries are patrolling the western
border of Ukraine, downlinking ELINT/SIGINT to Ukrainian command posts

In time when those AWACS are not challenged by Mig31 , and are failing to properly coordinate the ground situation for the VSU

In other words, as force multipliers they are not so useful considering they are not even being attacked or harassed

How do I know of 500+ casualties? It was the last figure released by the MOD

There are released weekly of dead , with faces , and bios, and stories of their actions

Based off this we can reliably estimate the casualties

The hospitals are not backlogged with wounded, that's another sign

The 50,000 Russians, we can estimate based on sat images from the WEST

Only 1 huge column was ever seen from the CAA, ergo most of the Russian forces are not in Ukraine and this number was used by most analysts

The NATO mercenary count of 25,000 Include poles and baltics, not just Americans, British, Brazilians, French, germans, Danes, and swedes, Canadians so on and so forth