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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #7

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    Post  kvs Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:42 pm

    The movement in Belarus must be tied to the NATzO deployment to heavy equipment to Poland. The lunatics running the
    western asylum are itching for a nuclear war.

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    Post  LMFS Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:44 pm

    Russian Defense Ministry
    🇷🇺🇺🇦 Russian Defense Ministry briefing (20.03.2022)

    ▫ ️ Units of the Russian Armed Forces complete the defeat of the nationalist battalion "Donbass". During the day, they advanced 12 kilometers, reached the border of Nikolskoye and, in cooperation with the units of the Donetsk Republic, blocked the settlement of SLADKE from three sides.

    💥 Up to 60 militants, two tanks, three infantry fighting vehicles, six were destroyed. field artillery guns and nationalist mortars. Currently, they are fighting with the remnants of militants and units of the 54th separate mechanized brigade of the Ukrainian troops for the capture of the settlements of Sladke, Novoukrainka and Shakhterskoye.

    The group of forces of the Donetsk People's Republic continued to pursue the retreating units of the 53rd mechanized Brigade of the Ukrainian armed forces, developing an offensive in the direction of the village of Novomikhailovka. Up to 20 personnel, 1 tank, 1 infantry fighting vehicle and 3 off-road vehicles were destroyed.

    ▫ On the direction NOVOSELOVKA TWO-Donetsk Republic units have wedged themselves into the defense of the 25th Airborne Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and are now fighting for the capture of populated areasKAMENKA and NOVOSELOVKA TWO.

    💥 During the day, operational-tactical and army aircraft hit 89 military facilities in Ukraine. Among them: four command posts, two multiple launch rocket systems, nine artillery pieces, five warehouses of rocket and artillery weapons and ammunition, as well as 65 places of accumulation of military equipment. Russian air defense systems shot down seven aircraft in the air. Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles.

    📊 Since the beginning of the special military operation, 214 unmanned aerial vehicles, 1,483 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 150 multiple launch rocket systems, 584 field artillery guns and mortars, as well as 1,279 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

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    Post  Werewolf Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:48 pm

    diabetus wrote:
    There's no indication any of the Kor rockets were ever accepted into service.

    Well you are not wrong but there have been often systems accepted into service and never really purchased or on second thought not purchased, yet.

    I guess time will tell.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:54 pm

    https://t.me/swodki/46868

    Wtf was that?

    Iskander is illuminated?? That's some other rocket

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    Post  psg Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:57 pm

    Werewolf

    Thanks for that article link. I did read up about the guided rocket for the Bm21, but couldn't find a picture of it. Now that rocket with a cep of less then 10m would be absolutely devastating working with a uav to range the targets and pass on the glonass coordinates. That is something they need to push into wide spread service, you could easily make millions of them.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:17 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/swodki/46868

    Wtf was that?

    Iskander is illuminated?? That's some other rocket

    Might be the exhaust of the hypersonic engine.

    I took 3 frames, the Weapon seems to shut off its burn before making final corrections right before impact.
    The smoke trail ends straight after it stops glowing.

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    Post  Broski Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:20 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Wtf was that?

    Iskander is illuminated?? That's some other rocket
    Kinzhal?
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    Post  diabetus Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:22 pm

    So will there be a dombass cauldron or will they just continue these frontal attacks
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    Post  Werewolf Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:23 pm

    psg wrote:Werewolf

    Thanks for that article link. I did read up about the guided rocket for the Bm21, but couldn't find a picture of it. Now that rocket with a cep of less then 10m would be absolutely devastating working with a uav to range the targets and pass on the glonass coordinates. That is something they need to push into wide spread service, you could easily make millions of them.

    I guess after this war many projects and crucial systems like artillery get more funding. Hopefully.

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    Post  diabetus Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:25 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    psg wrote:Werewolf

    Thanks for that article link. I did read up about the guided rocket for the Bm21, but couldn't find a picture of it. Now that rocket with a cep of less then 10m would be absolutely devastating working with a uav to range the targets and pass on the glonass coordinates. That is something they need to push into wide spread service, you could easily make millions of them.

    I guess after this war many projects and crucial systems like artillery get more funding. Hopefully.

    Especially since this might finally expend much of the old USSR ammo stockpile.
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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:30 pm

    @ Ark, guess who the hypersonic Suppositories where meanth for?.





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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:31 pm

    Druzenko said they gave orders to Ukrainian field medics to castrate Russian POWs, because they are subhuman cockroaches.

    Bio: https://uk.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B7%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B4%D1%96%D0%B9_%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87

    Recipient of generous USAID funds, Fulbright scholar, and of course the co-founder and chair of the PDMSh which organizes medical services for the army.

    Like most of these things it will probably be ignored by western media altogether, but it's funny how determined the Ukrainians are to prove the Russians right in their accusations.


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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:33 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Belarus moving to Lvov would need to be supported by the VKS, then again that's probably why su35 is there

    Also s400 protecting them

    11th army corps at kaliningrad must be ready, and the baltic fleet , also the 76th pskov division , must be reinforced

    There could be a NATO escalation

    The 1st Guards Tank Army must guard Belarus

    The 6th army should be ready for prebaltics

    This would be a good operation to prevent a Syrian scenario. However, this is only with a very strong coverage of the air and compelling must be many TOR.

    NATO would actively engage with drones at this proximity. Therefore, the cover in the air must be very very strong. This lock would be urgently needed!

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:43 pm

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    photographed by an Londoner that ripped it off the door.

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    Post  LMFS Mon Mar 21, 2022 12:08 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/swodki/46868

    Wtf was that?

    Iskander is illuminated?? That's some other rocket

    That thing was absurdly fast, it can be an Iskander, which is known to be hypersonic too. The flare may be caused by friction with dense layers of the atmosphere IMHO

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    Post  LMFS Mon Mar 21, 2022 12:12 am

    diabetus wrote:So will there be a dombass cauldron or will they just continue these frontal attacks

    Donetsk is under heavy shelling, they may want to dislodge the LOC further from the city by attacking from the South to reduce the civilian casualties and the damage to the city . They are trying to form a cauldron from the North while pinning the Donbass forces with attacks from LDNR, but the ukies are launching all that they have at Izyum, as it is logical. Regardless, I don't expect to understand the strategy better than the Russian general staff, we may all be wrong.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Mar 21, 2022 12:14 am

    Ripped from an MoA poster, the offer is until 05.00 in the morning 21st March.

    A terrible humanitarian disaster has developed in Mariupol as a result of the lawlessness of Ukrainian nationalists. Desperate and out of their minds, the bandits, realizing that it is impossible for Kiev to provide any assistance, have carried out mass terror in the neighbourhoods of the city that they still control. At the same time, reliable information we are receiving attests to the horrific atrocities of the insurgents, who have gone mad with despair. The tone of their active conversations with officials in Kyiv, which we record daily in radio intercepts, speaks of their extreme anger towards the Ukrainian authorities because they were simply abandoned, while being forced to strictly follow the order to "stand to the death", and their status as "martyrs of Mariupol" has already been conferred upon them.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12414044@egNews

    It has been objectively established that 80 to 235 innocent civilians per day are killed by the Nazis, which is a terrible statistic for the last three days alone, and these are the people who try to leave the city on their own and are simply shot by the militants.

    At the same time, the Donetsk people's republic formations, supported by the Russian Armed Forces, realizing that the neo-Nazis are covered by a "human shield" of innocent people, carry out measures to unblock Mariupol only point by point - house by house, block by block, without using heavy weapons, thereby avoiding casualties among the civilians.

    As a result of the effective measures taken, over the past three days, 59,304 people, as well as 139 foreign nationals, have been evacuated to the Russian Federation from the hotbed of terror and arbitrariness in the city by the nationalists.

    But according to our data, up to 130 thousand civilians and 184 foreign citizens from six countries remain in the city as hostages. In view of the above, in order to save human lives and preserve the infrastructure of Mariupol, being guided solely by humane principles, and also based on the analysis of the content of the radio communications intercepted today alone, the desperate neo-Nazis, who realized the full hopelessness of their situation and the pointlessness of further resistance, the Russian Federation from 10 am Moscow time tomorrow March 21 opens humanitarian corridors from Mariupol to the east, and in agreement with Ukrainian

    For the practical implementation of the measures of the humanitarian operation for the evacuation of civilians and foreign nationals along the previously agreed routes, the following algorithm of action is proposed to the Ukrainian side

    from 9 a.m. continuous communication is established between the Russian and Ukrainian sides for mutual exchange of information;

    From 9:30 a.m., Ukrainian armed forces units, territorial defence battalions, as well as nationalists and foreign mercenaries entrenched in Mariupol are on one side. The Russian Armed Forces, together with the military formations of the Donetsk People's Republic, on the other hand, declare a "total silence regime" and guarantee its strict observance.

    The actual commencement of the "silence regime" at 9.30 a.m. Moscow time is indicated by both sides by the raising of flags at the main entrances to the city of Mariupol. Red flags on the Russian side and white flags on the Ukrainian side, all along the line of contact. Furthermore, the fact that the parties are ready to introduce a "silence regime" is confirmed through all channels of communication.

    Since 10 o'clock, there has been continuous communication on the functioning of the humanitarian corridors between the authorised officials in Moscow and Kyiv, the list of officials being agreed by the parties. The official from the Russian side has already been notified to the Ukrainian side.

    The organised exit from the city is organised as follows. From 10 a.m. to 12 noon, all Ukrainian armed units and foreign mercenaries without any weapons or ammunition along the route agreed with Ukraine.

    From 12 noon onwards, humanitarian columns with food, medicines and basic necessities are simultaneously passing through: from the eastern direction - a Russian humanitarian column, from the western direction - a humanitarian column formed by the Ukrainian side.

    Ahead of these columns, sapper units from the formations of the Donetsk People's Republic and units of the Russian Armed Forces are advancing to ensure the safe movement of humanitarian convoys into residential areas of Mariupol and the subsequent evacuation of civilians and foreign nationals. At the same time, all those wishing to evacuate to Russia depart in convoys formed by the Russian Federation, while all those wishing to depart to Kyiv-controlled territories are evacuated in convoys formed by the Ukrainian side.

    At the same time, every Mariupol resident and foreign citizen is guaranteed the solely voluntary choice of any of the humanitarian corridors or the right to remain in the unblocked city.

    On this issue, today we will publish an urgent statement by the Interdepartmental Coordination Headquarters of the Russian Federation for Humanitarian Response in Ukraine in Russian and English and disseminate it through all available information resources. In order to fulfil this task rigorously, we also send an official appeal to the United Nations, the OSCE, the International Committee of the Red Cross and other international organizations, whose representatives are invited to accompany the practical measures of this humanitarian operation, as they are called, directly on the "ground", that is, in the city of Mariupol, and as part of humanitarian columns of both the Russian and Ukrainian sides. We urge the Ukrainian armed forces units, territorial defence battalions and foreign mercenaries to cease hostilities, lay down their weapons and withdraw to Kyiv-controlled territory through humanitarian corridors agreed with the Ukrainian side. All those who have laid down their arms are guaranteed safe exit from Mariupol and the preservation of their lives. In the event that you are once again abandoned by Kyiv officials and ordered to die as martyrs, we urge all those who value and value their own lives to do so independently and in separate groups. The commanders of the units of the Donetsk People's Republic and the Russian Armed Forces will be prepared for such a scenario and will ensure your safe exit, but only without weapons and ammunition, to any area you name. The official authorities in Kiev call for prudence and cancellation of the earlier instructions that obliged the fighters to sacrifice themselves and become, in inverted commas, "martyrs of Mariupol". In addition, we insist on an official written response from the Ukrainian side by 5am tomorrow, i.e. 21 March, to all the listed, purely humane proposals from the Russian Federation, in the name of saving Mariupol residents and the city's infrastructure.

    Separately, we appeal to the odious bandits, who have hundreds of innocent lives on their conscience and now call themselves representatives of the official local authorities of this unique city of Mariupol. We are aware of the fact that in the current situation, little depends on you, since you are under the full control of the nationalist battalions, but we very much hope that you, including the city mayor, have at least something basic, human, at least a sense of compassion for the civilians entrusted to you. You are the ones who now have the right to make a historic choice - either you are with your people or you are with the bandits, otherwise the court martial that awaits you is just a little something you have already earned because of your despicable attitude towards your own citizens, as well as the horrific crimes and provocations you have already arranged. These include the bombing of a kindergarten, two schools, a maternity hospital, a drama theatre building and much, much more. We are certain that it is the people of Mariupol themselves who will not be able to get out of this blockade.

    Rescued inhabitants of Mariupol, which is nearly 60 thousand people, being in full safety in Russia, are now openly speaking about the mass atrocities and crimes committed by you. We are documenting all this very carefully.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Mon Mar 21, 2022 12:21 am

    The ukranians in Kiev whining about "Russia bombed our mall!".?

    Well...there are also Ukrainians that find heavy artillery rounds strewn everywhere.
    There is also an vid out there of people going trough the rubble and one of these shells cooks off.

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    Edit, here it is. at the end of the vid an Arty round cooks off and detonates.



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    Post  diabetus Mon Mar 21, 2022 12:22 am

    LMFS wrote:
    diabetus wrote:So will there be a dombass cauldron or will they just continue these frontal attacks

    Donetsk is under heavy shelling, they may want to dislodge the LOC further from the city by attacking from the South to reduce the civilian casualties and the damage to the city . They are trying to form a cauldron from the North while pinning the Donbass forces with attacks from LDNR, but the ukies are launching all that they have at Izyum, as it is logical. Regardless, I don't expect to understand the strategy better than the Russian general staff, we may all be wrong.

    Yes i initially anticipated they would attempt to cut them off as soon as possible. Shelling would also stop if resupply ended.
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    Post  d_taddei2 Mon Mar 21, 2022 12:26 am

    Although the S-5 was largely dropped from Russian service it could still make a come back. The Russians are actually quite lucky as Drones have progressed across the world militaries many have had to design specific rockets and missiles for them or only having a one missile capable. While the Russians have had access to multiple rockets and missiles prior to UCAV and so can utilize them well. As mentioned S-8 guided and unguided, the same goes for S-13, S-24, S-25, ataka,vikr,AT-6 shturm, etc. As for S-5 where it can still be useful I see is drones tend to carry light payloads. And drones working in tandem could be useful to have a variety of rockets and missiles. For example tank using ERA or what we have seen recently caged armour on the roof. So a drone carrying a handful of S-5 could be used to destroy the ERA or caged armour followed by another drone carrying the missile that's going to deliver the death blow. Just a little example of what an Orion drone could possibly carry
    S-13 rockets 2-3 depending on type
    S-8 rockets 8-10 depending on type
    S-5 rockets 16-18 depending on type.

    The S-5 seems to have quite a few options on Frag rockets and fletchette rockets. An Orion drone armed with S-5 fletchette rockets would produce 16-18,000 darts a nasty surprise for dug in troops.

    The Serbs could mount their 2T5 sagger (5km) range missile on a drone and would be a cheap missile for drone attack.

    There was an article last year I was reading where Poland was testing old stocks of AT-2 Swatter/Fleyta for use on drones. Article stated 2.5km range and 500-650mm penetration which I believe is standard for the AT-2 but guidance was improved I dont remember the drone name but stated that it would be armed with 4-8 AT-2 missiles. I suppose its one way if getting rid of old stock but I don't they adopted it in the end as I have never seen or heard of anything again on it.

    And of course we have seen shoulder launched anti tank rocket systems mounted on drones. I would imagine a drone armed with a RPG-30 for example would be pretty lethal against tanks and yet another fairly cheap munition.

    The results can be endless.

    Another idea is a drone deploying something along the lines of of a expendable jammer round that Russia has in its 122mm and 152mm artillery rounds ( the name I can't remember) An Orion drone could probably carry something like 4 rounds that could be dropped across the battlefield and jam enemy radio signals and if u had a handful of drones u could easily jam a large area after dropping them u then fly off.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Mon Mar 21, 2022 12:37 am

    Werewolf wrote:
    psg wrote:Werewolf

    Thanks for that article link. I did read up about the guided rocket for the Bm21, but couldn't find a picture of it. Now that rocket with a cep of less then 10m would be absolutely devastating working with a uav to range the targets and pass on the glonass coordinates. That is something they need to push into wide spread service, you could easily make millions of them.

    I guess after this war many projects and crucial systems like artillery get more funding. Hopefully.

    The thing with artillery is it pretty much has remained very little changed over the years it's a bit like a rifle it's does what it does..only real upgrades is rounds, in the form of range and guidance. SP systems have focused on RPM increase as well as range and guidance and making things automatic. We might see more Soviet systems being upgraded after the war as a cost saving technique. All three main systems have had upgrades adapted for them 2S1, 2S3,  2S19. Tulpan and 2S7 have had recent upgrades done. Only the 2S5 I believe hasn't had much of an upgrade done although the towed version did get some upgrades done over the years.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Mar 21, 2022 12:57 am

    Getting revenge for the loss of their deputy commander and more military stuff stored in civilian buildings.

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    In Kyiv, the mall building was used by the ukrainian army as a warehouse for artillery ammunition.
    A shell from a 2S7 "Peony" self-propelled pistol was found on the spot.


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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:35 am

    Kiev has refused to surrender Mariopol and let the remaining civilians out.

    They've already lost the city. They're completely surrounded, supplies are running out, and it's just a bunch of dug-in Azovites pretty much, who will lose, there's no way around it.

    Seems absolutely idiotic to me not to give up, and extremely cruel to the civilians, but I suppose it's just an attempt to keep the Russians, DNR and Chechens busy down there for a little bit longer so they can't join the northern ops just yet.

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    Post  kvs Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:43 am

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Kiev has refused to surrender Mariopol and let the remaining civilians out.

    They've already lost the city. They're completely surrounded, supplies are running out, and it's just a bunch of dug-in Azovites pretty much, who will lose, there's no way around it.

    Seems absolutely idiotic to me not to give up, and extremely cruel to the civilians, but I suppose it's just an attempt to keep the Russians, DNR and Chechens busy down there for a little bit longer so they can't join the northern ops just yet.

    The problem is that the Kiev regime is maintaining an insane propaganda bubble. It cannot "surrender" Mariupol because that would undermine
    the basis of this propaganda. They are spreading the blood libel that the civilians who manage to leave the city are sent to Russian
    concentration camps where they are tortured and murdered.

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    Post  Yugo90 Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:43 am

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Kiev has refused to surrender Mariopol and let the remaining civilians out.

    They've already lost the city. They're completely surrounded, supplies are running out, and it's just a bunch of dug-in Azovites pretty much, who will lose, there's no way around it.

    Seems absolutely idiotic to me not to give up, and extremely cruel to the civilians, but I suppose it's just an attempt to keep the Russians, DNR and Chechens busy down there for a little bit longer so they can't join the northern ops just yet.
    Probably waiting for western arms supplies.

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