miketheterrible wrote:Plus that carrier would sink pretty damn fast too and then the Americans would leave achieving nothing but a lot of dead sailors and missing planes.
I have lost count how many times these us carrier admirals have threatened Russia. Not just carriers, but just ships too. Both against Russia and China.
They know they can't and won't do shit but they do it for politics cause after admiral, they want a cushy position in politics.
They remind me those video of dogs barking behind the doors and when the owner open the door they just stop.
Same way US are barking knowing nothing can really happen. But once russian missiles start flying they get the **** away and leave their "allies" alone.
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:Well, Zelenskyy has said he is willing to accept being Neutral etc no joining NATO in exchange for russians withdrawal and a promise they will not attack again.
His words mean rather nothing
Protocols and documents were already presented to the Ukrainian side to sign at the 3rd round of negotiations but instead they opined that they would 'take a look at them'
Zelensky is an actor performing in front of green screens somewhere in Poland
The only hope for a negotiated solution is via the negotiations between the Russian and Ukrainian delegations, with the former led by Medinsky and the later led by Podolyak. Lately they've been continuing online rather than in person.
His words meaning something whether you think so or not he has the power to make it happen, the issues is getting him to that point and what if he IS at that point, do the russians just ignore and carry on
SeigSoloyvov wrote:Well, Zelenskyy has said he is willing to accept being Neutral etc no joining NATO in exchange for russians withdrawal and a promise they will not attack again.
It's too late. If russian soldiers go back to their bases Ukrainians can quickly enter NATO and bring their AD system and planes there.
Russians would need months to redeploy their army.
There is no trust left for such thing. Russia will keep destroying ukrainians untill they surrender and give the donbas.
Most of the ukrainian troops are in Kiev and donbas. Two front being encircled. It's just a matter of time before they siege both annd then they will have to surrender.
Zelensky can save only western ukraine for now. Donbas can still be kept in Ukraine IMO if they accept total submission to Russia by total surrender, no army, total neutrality, removal of all the sanctions... but that mostly depend on the US which won't accept that.
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Massive strikes on the Kramatorsk airfield, which AFAIK is the largest Ukrainian base in the Donetsk region. It's been struck before, but not to this extent. Hard to tell what ordnance it is, but the blasts are huge and there are Russian jets seen and heard in the air, so probably heavy bombs (500kg/1000lbs+).
Saw something flash by on Twitter earlier, but can't find it now. Some U.S. official saying they recorded 300 Russian air force sorties that operated unimpeded over a large part of Ukraine in the past 24hrs, but the Russians "still don't have air superiority", according to him.
We saw yesterday that they fly drones over Kiev unimpeded, and that they now conduct heavy airstrikes in broad daylight on Ukrainian bases. We also know that Ukraine has had zero manned aviation in the air for the past week or so, as they get instantly shot down, and that they lose 5-10 drones a day, and there hasn't been any Bayraktar footage for almost two weeks.
What is "air superiority" then?
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:Well, Zelenskyy has said he is willing to accept being Neutral etc no joining NATO in exchange for russians withdrawal and a promise they will not attack again.
His words mean rather nothing
Protocols and documents were already presented to the Ukrainian side to sign at the 3rd round of negotiations but instead they opined that they would 'take a look at them'
Zelensky is an actor performing in front of green screens somewhere in Poland
The only hope for a negotiated solution is via the negotiations between the Russian and Ukrainian delegations, with the former led by Medinsky and the later led by Podolyak. Lately they've been continuing online rather than in person.
His words meaning something whether you think so or not he has the power to make it happen, the issues is getting him to that point and what if he IS at that point, do the russians just ignore and carry on
No-one says the Russians are ignoring, but he's an actor - what matters is what's going on behind closed doors and whether the positions of both sides are getting close enough for a compromise, or not.
The negotiations are proceeding as far as I know, and are focusing on the production of written treaties and documents
From what I understand, the Russian demands are still recognition of the LNR/DNR as independent states, the recognition of the Crimea as Russian, and neutral status for the Ukraine. By neutral status they mean proper neutral, as in no co-operation with NATO. Not like Finland or Sweden or whatever. However I could be wrong, as the Kremlin is not publishing the thesis that it presents to Kiev, and considers that doing so may harm negotiations.
The facts on the ground are that Russia has already created a local administration in Kherson, Berdyansk, Melitopol and multiple settlements in the Kharkov region, and that the LNR/DNR are recruiting people in the Kherson region. Russian expansion however seems to be paused for the time being. I guess they're giving time for negotiations until the fall of Mariupol
Potentially these Russian advances and administrations can be rolled back and their local people evacuated if negotiations complete successfully, but Russia seems to not have confidence in them. https://lenta.ru/news/2022/03/22/peregovory/
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Arrow wrote:Neutral Ukraine is a joke. After Russia withdraws, NATO troops will move to Ukraine. It will be similar to the fact that NATO will not move eastwards, as with the Minsk II agreements, etc.
The problem with this view Russia has claimed it was their MAIN concern, so if they ignore this just shows the NATO thing was a mere excuse and they after more then they openly claim.
Russia is being hung out to dry with a political/economic/military Iron Curtain 2 being put as rapidly as possible in place.
As many have said this level of activity is far too much for it to be only about Ukraine.
Since Russia is being hung as a wolf there is no point in it making lamb like moves. It laid out its position before Chtistmas, they are now letting it play out.
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After the withdrawal of Russian troops, the neutral Ukraine will very quickly bring NATO troops into its territory. Ukraine will not remain neutral for long. I don't know how Russia would enforce this neutrality. These will only be declarations and agreements that can be broken. As in the case of NATO enlargement after 1989.
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I had to go back to work today so today's briefing is just some summaries of yesterday evening fighting but there's some very encouraging info about the surrender of regime forces near Kiev
Arkanghelsk wrote:USS Truman is getting close to the Bosphorus
The admiral is saying he is ready to implement a no fly zone
This is the reason Russia is right to take its time with small manpower
The war with NATO is approaching,
If F18E approach Ukraine, it will be necessary for Russia to implement its own No Fly Zone with S400 With the longest recorded downing in world history in combat of 150km
max steel wrote:Why Russia hasn't entered Kiev yet ? Are they suffering heavy casualties ?
Ukraine isn't turning out to be like Georgia for Russians.
Yes and no. The main focus seems to be the Donbass and to destroy the most fanatical and experienced fighters there. To do this, they are pressuring Kiev and and threatening Odessa. If you take Kiev you free up lots of Ukrainian troops. You pressure Kiev and threaten Odessa then you keep what Colonel David Glantz called maskirovka. Yes, I know Glantz is considered hit or miss by some on here, but by keeping up three avenues of attack you actually keep the operational initiative and you get to conceal what avenue of attack you are planning.
My guess is after the fall of Marioupol, the liberation of the rest of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions will follow and to tie down reinforcement their might be landings at Odessa and an invasion by Belarus in Ukraine’s west. Kiev itself? That's probably the final phase of the war.
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max steel wrote:Why Russia hasn't entered Kiev yet ? Are they suffering heavy casualties ?
Ukraine isn't turning out to be like Georgia for Russians.
Russia did not enter Georgia's capital either. Russia is focused on the destruction of armies in the field at the moment rather than taking over cities. Just the battle for Mariupol alone is incurring huge devastation, civilian suffering and friendly casualties. Kiev is like 10 times bigger.
Georgia signed a ceasefire agreement with Russia quickly mediated by Sarkozy, which basically just recognized the previous status quo - that Abkhazia and S. Ossetia are under the control of Russia
With the Ukraine though the West is determined to wage a total war by means of the Ukrainian state and people and bring Russia to its knees, so any sort of agreement can only be signed if Russia manages to wrest its elite from dependence on the West.
I keep to be constantly amazed by people wondering equally "why Russians do not make more progress" and "why don`t Ukrainians just surrender at this point". Asked by Greeks even. Oh my, those should have know better.
Why because those are Slavs fighting. One side considers other the same people as themselves. Other not so much. Both sides are hard people, not sissies who will cry and run opposed by someone harder then underequipped towelheads. Both sides doing their duty, either advancing their country geopolitical goals, fighting healthy defensive war on not its own territory, or plainly fighting defensive war. There is healthy respect to opposition on both sides. It will go on for some time, until utter destruction of one`s side military. This is not France, after all.
Yes. I want to know why Russia isn't going full offensive. Any tactical reasons or are they suffering heavy casualties ?
Why don't you ask Russian command?
I'm not privy to their plans
And whether a 'full offensive' was ever intended. They're not advancing at the moment. Is that due to ongoing negotiations, not wanting to interrupt the sowing season, because they're more focused on destroying Ukrainian ammo/supplies from stand-off range and letting them come to them, because they don't want to destroy the Ukrainian army utterly, because they're worried about encountering more traps as they did when they advanced quickly earlier, or because they want the LNR & DNR to liberate their territories fully and get a propaganda victory first - I really don't know.
Hit a junction like this and you don't need to worry about the rest of the rail network.
Spriter @spriter99880 · 55m Head of the Dnepropetrovsk Regional State Administration Valentin Reznichenko said that a missile attack was carried out on Pavlograd. One person died.
As a result of the shelling, the Pavlograd-2 railway station was destroyed, the railway track and rails were destroyed, 15 freight cars derailed. Traffic through the station has been suspended indefinitely.
Ukrainian media report on the destruction of the important transport hub Pavlograd-2, which provides supply and replenishment with personnel and equipment of the eastern group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donbas.
There is no other supply line for the mentioned group of Ukrainian forces from western and central Ukraine.
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