Russian special military operation in Ukraine #5

Arkanghelsk wrote:Why has Garry allowed that clown to spew his shit on here

Mods hes obviously trolling cleanup on aisle 37

Aristide wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:Lmao Russia didnt go into a surprise

Bunch of clowns

Putin announced sanctions were happening anyway,  Biden firmly made clear the repercussions of Russian intervention

And the Kremlin took a shit on it

It also took a shit on the EU

Right now, at stake is the rebuilding of the Empire, USSR 2 whatever you want to call it

Putin has been politically correct for many years "western partners", "denazification", "polite people", "USSR dissolution greatest tragedy of century"

Cmon man, it's quite obvious Kremlin played a quiet role, we knew this was coming, it had to be denied to the last moment

It's obvious since 2014 what was happening, many advisors made it clear

Some adjustments just had to be done before work could begin to restore Russia to Ukraine

Russias performance in Ukraine has been great

NATO lost 70 aircraft over Yugoslavia, and more over Iraq

Its day and night to compare Russian strength to the weakness of NATO

Big words coming from a poor country like Russia which is 1.8% of world economy...

So you say Kremlin knew we take 380 billion € of russiam assets? That we would eradicate any russian presence within Europe and crush oligarchs into oblivion? Did he also expect that we make Ukraine a new Afghanistan for them?

On a sidenote. USSR was a joke and plagued by extreme poverty. You want give it a 2nd round?

The problem is, Russia can offer nothing than misery. Thats why all run away from it. It has no attraction, in a way its an empire of dirt, as Johnny Cash called it. Given its complete isolation with the civilized world, its economic collapse...i guess USSR 2 will end worse than version 1.

Karl Haushofer wrote:Why did Russia stockpile all that money to Western banks (only to have it confiscated) instead of investing it in Russia like building roads, railways, factories, new agricultural farms etc.?

Karl Haushofer wrote:Why did Russia stockpile all that money to Western banks (only to have it confiscated) instead of investing it in Russia like building roads, railways, factories, new agricultural farms etc.?

Arkanghelsk wrote:

Aristide wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:Lmao Russia didnt go into a surprise

Bunch of clowns

Putin announced sanctions were happening anyway,  Biden firmly made clear the repercussions of Russian intervention

And the Kremlin took a shit on it

It also took a shit on the EU

Right now, at stake is the rebuilding of the Empire, USSR 2 whatever you want to call it

Putin has been politically correct for many years "western partners", "denazification", "polite people", "USSR dissolution greatest tragedy of century"

Cmon man, it's quite obvious Kremlin played a quiet role, we knew this was coming, it had to be denied to the last moment

It's obvious since 2014 what was happening, many advisors made it clear

Some adjustments just had to be done before work could begin to restore Russia to Ukraine

Russias performance in Ukraine has been great

NATO lost 70 aircraft over Yugoslavia, and more over Iraq

Its day and night to compare Russian strength to the weakness of NATO

Big words coming from a poor country like Russia which is 1.8% of world economy...

So you say Kremlin knew we take 380 billion € of russiam assets? That we would eradicate any russian presence within Europe and crush oligarchs into oblivion? Did he also expect that we make Ukraine a new Afghanistan for them?

On a sidenote. USSR was a joke and plagued by extreme poverty. You want give it a 2nd round?

The problem is, Russia can offer nothing than misery. Thats why all run away from it. It has no attraction, in a way its an empire of dirt, as Johnny Cash called it. Given its complete isolation with the civilized world, its economic collapse...i guess USSR 2 will end worse than version 1.

Amigo all the money in the world wouldnt buy you a better education it seems

Russia is not 1.8 % of the economy, your energy prices and the inflationary pressure to your economy as well as plunge to recession show it

The west has been devastated worse than covid by a country with the economy smaller than texas(sarcasm) 

You crushing oligarchs is music to my ears, the faster to make this money repatriate to Russia the better

You think anyone gives a shit about Boris Mints or Vadim Belyaev? I saw Oleg Deripaska crying on tv it's so funny man you are squeezing your own agents, and niabullina will be out soon

We have left you forever its really good

Isolation? Amigo, our number 1 partner is the richest country in the world, and we banned you from our airspace so good luck trading with them

Aka CHINA

d_taddei2 wrote:The Swiss live up to their neutral status

Switzerland, in Connection With Situation in Ukraine, Closes Skies to Aircraft of Parties to Conflict, States Providing Military Support to Them
Switzerland is closing its air space for planes belonging to parties to the conflict in Ukraine as well as flights from other countries if they are to provide military support to one of the sides, the Swiss Federal Council said on Friday.
"In light of the Russian aggression against Ukraine, the Federal Council has considered what to do with requests for passage over the Swiss territory in the context of this armed conflict. The council has decided that it will not allow flights of military planes of the parties to conflict for military purposes, [flights] of other states' military planes to provide military support to the sides of the conflict, specifically by delivering military equipment," the council said in a statement.
Exceptions will be made for humanitarian flights, including those transporting the wounded.

Arkanghelsk wrote:

Karl Haushofer wrote:Why did Russia stockpile all that money to Western banks (only to have it confiscated) instead of investing it in Russia like building roads, railways, factories, new agricultural farms etc.?

Liberal reformers and agents of the EU Alexei Kudrin, Anatoly Chubais, Yegor Gaidar, and the band of thieves are what did this

We could not get the parasite off, without triggering economic nuclear war with the west

They took the bait, and we have our economy back

Aristide wrote:380 billion...can you even imagine how much that is?

They cant repatriat money to russia comrade. We take it. Also their ships, houses, land. Evrything.

As for Nibullina, she did was she was intended to do. A economic neutron bomb to destroy your central banks ability to controle the damage. She worked great. Imagine...1 day into the war and Russia lost over 50% of its assets.

380 billion...can you even imagine how much that is?

Arkanghelsk wrote:Fire who? Do you realize who is running Russia since 1991?

you cannot fire people who run an economy that is integrated to western structures

You need to blow it up from within and Putin has done that

Arkanghelsk wrote:

Karl Haushofer wrote:Why did Russia stockpile all that money to Western banks (only to have it confiscated) instead of investing it in Russia like building roads, railways, factories, new agricultural farms etc.?

Liberal reformers and agents of the EU Alexei Kudrin, Anatoly Chubais, Yegor Gaidar, and the band of thieves are what did this

We could not get the parasite off, without triggering economic nuclear war with the west

They took the bait, and we have our economy back

So you admit that it was a genius move of us to install Nabuillina? Keep in mind nobody expected that massive asset freeze.

Vann7 wrote:Take a look at this..

the losses of russian army to baykatar drones can't be denied , and this is army that claimed
"air superiority" total control in the first day and that "disable ukraine air defenses" just in the first day.

http://charly015.blogspot.com/2022/02/ataques-de-drones-bayraktar-durante-el.html

The images confirm what many have been saying , but ignored by fanboys in the forum ,
and is that the Russia army is not yet prepared to fight a modern war against an enemy with
strong air support . Because if the Russian military can't properly defend their own army ,
right next to the russian borders ,where Russia have access to the entire air power.. then imagine
how much worse it will be for Russia military if it had to fight far from its borders, or perhaps if the country it had to invade was fully armed by NATO and Israel.

-Zero electronic warfare used to blind the remote controlled baycatar drones.
-Zero mobile air defenses protecting their major troops formations.
-Zero anti air artillery taking down those drones .
- Those drones need to take off from airports runways.. why those airports don't properly destroyed?

And this is ukraine a third world nation ,that is only armed by another third country like turkey ,that their drones they manufacture with NATO parts.

Imagine how much worse this will have been , if Russia was fighting in Serbia ,under attack by NATO ,that have NATO airbases near?  if it was fighting in Israel?  

Russia is a second grade military today ,when it comes to modern warfare ,
i have no doubts today , that had Russia had no nuclear weapons , and had no way to deter enemies from attacking them directly, it will have been completely destroyed its military in ukraine by any NATO major power with US unlimited aid of drones and modern weapons.  All those stupid era soviet artillery duels tactics ,that russia love to show all the time " as how powerful they are" will have been
totally useless ,if Russia can't properly defend its airspace.

Only russia nuclear deterrence is what prevents NATO from destroying Russia military bases, ,because all those s-400s ,that supposedly cover ukraine airspace performance vs baykatar drones have been mediocre to say the least.  since the russian army convoys are taking a lot of hits right next to belarus border ,which russia s-300s and s-400 can reach easily.

So far hopefully this war will show the incompetent Russia government and russian army ,that they are not well prepared at all , not even close to fight a real war ,against a much more stronger army ,
as it will be japan for example , or israel , or UK , France or US.   so keep celebrating those s-400s junk , not good enough.. Russia is losing buks defenses like there is no tomorrow. and will lose those s-400s too , if they were located in ukraine , no question about it.


Lets see what will happen to russian army, once those israeli drones start showing up targeting
russian convoys , i can forsee a major disaster for russia in ukraine. if the russian military don't start
properly providing air cover to the russian army. Because so far , doesn't look at all ,that Russia after 2 weeks of fights ,have complete control of ukraine airspace. not even close.. it can be hammered
from time to time its military , with the very weak defense capabilities of russia vs drone attacks in ukraine and s-400s and s-300s deployed near the battles zones in russian border.

i think is time for russian military to start moving to lethal energy weapons that fry electronics in combination with modern anti air artillery like the ones germany have.




Ukraine airspace is on russian borders, and is fully under reach of russia s-300s and s-400s,
and buks defense.. why those shitty airdefenses not stopping those drones from flying?
what is the excuses now for russian army? 8 years preparations for war against ukraine was not
good enough? they knew ,the high possibility that russian army will had to invade ukraine.
they knew how dangerous were those baykatar drones of turkey, and how many russian hardware
Russia military lost in syria, then later in armenian war , so what is the excuse now?
so far is showing major weakness ,pretty poor performance vs modern warfare.

Russia is strong only vs stalingrad like world war 2 battles , that wars are won by armor
and artillery and tanks and soldiers on foot fighting . but in modern warfare , when enemy airforce
and drones capability ,is very capable , russia military performance downgrade to the level of iran.
This is very serious , because NATO is watching this , is paying attention to this , the west now knows Russia is very weak ,vs drones attacks and loitering munition, not well prepared for a sustained defense against it. and now there is no excuse people that used in the forum , as they did in the armenian conflict.. "russian army not there fighting"  

Now is the russian army fighting . stop defending what can't be defended..
russian army was sent to ukraine ill prepared ,fact , to properly defend its military from a modern air war. now all those that told "russian army is not there fighting" in the armenian conflict ,will need to eat their words..  now is the russian army being smashed ,just like turkey did it in armenia with their drones.  and i don't think ,that this major problems can be fixed by just sending more buks to ukraine.. the tactics are simply wrong..  Russia needs to go back to the drawing board and develop something new for a sustained air protection and defenses for the russian military. Because those shitty s-400s, and s-300s that covers all ukraine airspace don't work at all. and neither those mobile air defenses working that well either.  

if there is something positive in all this ,is that now everyone will stop worshipping those obsolete russian airdefenses s-400s ,s-300s , buks ,tors, not providing proper air cover to the russian convoys near belarus borders.   and russia military will need to radically change its tactics ,to protect its military convoys and military defended bases too ,when facing a modern war.  

There is no point in russia building any surface warship if it can't even protect its own soldiers in land , right next to its borders in a modern war.. they need to invest heavily instead 10x times more in modernizing its airforce and military for future modern wars, that will rarely use tanks or artillery and will focus more in air space domination using either energy weapons and saturation attacks with cheap drones warfare.

LMFS wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:The Swiss live up to their neutral status

Switzerland, in Connection With Situation in Ukraine, Closes Skies to Aircraft of Parties to Conflict, States Providing Military Support to Them
Switzerland is closing its air space for planes belonging to parties to the conflict in Ukraine as well as flights from other countries if they are to provide military support to one of the sides, the Swiss Federal Council said on Friday.
"In light of the Russian aggression against Ukraine, the Federal Council has considered what to do with requests for passage over the Swiss territory in the context of this armed conflict. The council has decided that it will not allow flights of military planes of the parties to conflict for military purposes, [flights] of other states' military planes to provide military support to the sides of the conflict, specifically by delivering military equipment," the council said in a statement.
Exceptions will be made for humanitarian flights, including those transporting the wounded.

Swiss air space, does such a thing even exist? The impact of such posturing is zero, but they have sanctioned Russian banks, which actually matters. So much for "neutrality"

lancelot wrote:

Aristide wrote:380 billion...can you even imagine how much that is?

It is less than EU investments in Russia.

Can you say this is not only liberation of Ukraine but also sort of liberation of Russia.
People relying on western media don't know but there has been many many years complaining in Russian conservative media about actions of RCB; the ridiculous interest rates, keeping funds in euro and dollar etc.

It says something that Nabiullina has been named the "central banker of the year" some years back by western business journals. I don't recall west praising actions of Russian which would have actually been good for Russia.