d_taddei2 wrote:I think what we have learned is that it's not always the most sophisticated method of AD systems that are lethal. And just how dangerous Soviet systems are even when operating on their own initiative. And how difficult they are to take out. .
Syria is way superior defended its airspace , it have everything that kalinigrada nd crimea fortress have of russian military and still the israel aifroce manage for 8 years to strike with success by just using 4 planes , they nearly always hit syria and escape and have been extremely successful in destroying weapons depots of munition , even right next to russian airbase.. as it happened when
the russian airforce spy plane was shut down..
what we witness today , is how over rated was the russian army.. it is strong but not very efficient.
Russian airforce if it face problems in third world country ukraine , how much worse it will be flying
over tiny country like israel ?
The russian general staff needs to be fired ,for how mediocre their airforce have performed..
The can't fucking target a military base right there in their fucking borders , with a cruise missile and needs to send a plane that is later shut down?
this is horrible... what the russian military is doing.. because this is ukraine ..a third world nation ,just using manpads and soviet era buks ,can take down russian airplannes ,that ukraine soviet era air defenses can guide their missiles to hit russian planes.. without any jamming.
Russia should better hire israel airforce to do their job and disable their air defenses.. that supposedly shoigu claimed was neutralized in the first day of the war.
i only see very poor tactics -
- sending soldiers with light guns to the front line ,versus armor that ukraine have lots of it.
-sending convoys the first week without close air support.
- allowing ukraine army to freely move inside cities and ambush their forces when enter cities , something that attack drones or loteiring munition could stop ,
- losing armor for lack of fuel.
- not using airforce against stretched ukros military positions in donbass.. how is that possible?
to hold a line anywhere in any place in the world ,if you have enemy airforce in control of airspace?
throw incendiary bombs idiots... the smoke and chemicals will force them to abandom their bunkers.
very unimppresed with russian army performance , they better not fight a any nato nation ,because will be much worse. all this stupid artillery duels , are outdated soviet era combat.. you can't use artillery if the enemy have considerable amount of attack drones to take them down. at best portable mortars can be used ,if you hide.. but all those heavy artillery can only be used when enemy no longer have an airforce or drones to fight back.. because nato is arming ukraine , the ukies will never be out of drones anytime soon.
i have no doubts that russian army is very poorly trained for modern wars.. look the catastrophic performance of russian military in armenian conflict recently.those drones wiped very easily russian tors and buks and s-300s.. no problem for those israeli and turkish drones , not even the russian army hellicopters could fly safely inside armenian airspace. incompetence. after incompetence now the same embarrassment repeats again in ukraine. Russia needs a hell of a lot of improvements in the way the military fight.. they need combined fighting between soldier ,armor , combat jets and drones. it should be shocking to see how 30 special forces of russia , was fighting in kherson , that even toy drones could approach them from their rear flank.. if those were military drones , those 30 soldiers will have been all of them killed ,for mediocre tactics. russia needs a very strong drone attack force.. no less than israel and they need to always stay in the air , covering their forces in the ground. Having a lots of variety in drones is pointless if they build in extremely low quantities.
Future wars will be decided by air domination at all times , and with major focus in the massive use of drones (at all times ) 24 hours a day , for and complete suppression of enemy positions below.