Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

Regular wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Found a source of pro-Ukraine vids


But yeah. Definitely considerable loses.
I suspect the Ukrainians would certainly want to publicize all the Russian loses though, and the amount of such vids you can still count in the range of 10-20.
I think killed being in the range of the high hundreds is about correct.

If you want to see raw footage, go to telegram, not youtube. Youtube is full of fakes, cuts and so on. These videos are also quite old.
Now there are plenty of destroyed Ukrainian convoys being posted on TG channels as well. It seems that logistics echelons are taking the majority of casualties.

flamming_python wrote:

Got any channels to recommend?

rigoletto wrote:

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

Regular wrote:[. Nothing that VPN can solve.

Russians don't use DPI tech to cut off VPNs if needed?

VPN is, in short, an encrypted tunnel. DPI (Deep Package Inspection) cannot inspect anything of it since this is encrypted[1], and in fact VPN is often used to circumvent DPI.

[EDIT]

I'm assuming the VPN user isn't using something outdated like PPTP or L2TP but properly obfuscating it.

E.g. using OpenVPN in a way it looks like a regular HTTPS connection.

[1] unless the people behind the DPI installation somehow have the keys.

If Vlad is not with us, then it's a very sad development. We all should memorize him.

AFAIK the 80mm Ugroza variants are not in service due to their high price tag compared to what they are worth, however, S-24 240mm and 122mm variants are in service but also in rather small numbers. I can not give you any source because this is just more the indication to be the case than actual source, but the past firing tests of several years have usually only included ATGMs and ASMs not much else I was able to see regarding helicopter-borne firing tests.

You and I know that will not happen unless they have already another option which will cost them more money and a lot more souvereignity, which in all fairness they do not have at all.

Garry, I am in full agreement, shut down all supply for ALL natural resource to Germany for warmongering and undemocratic fascist-like censorship and anti-freespeech actions.

They need to clean the area with suicide drones. Not all Ukraine but the areas where they fly. It's very simple. Fly recco drones to spot them and launch suicide drones to hit them.

due to massive incompetence on the pilot's part, they never would have gotten that kill if he followed protocols. but hey keep bragging

Not the pilot's fault - he just follows orders (briefing) from his sq commander and he did. They got him because he flew the same flight path every day as per instruction but keep spewing bs.

Yes it was now your just lying, he flew too low, he kept his bomb bay doors open which he wasn't supposed and he did other things incorrect

7) Member of Ukraine's First Delegation at Talks With Russia Killed by Security Service of Ukraine, Verkhovna Rada's Lawmaker Claims. A Verkhovna Rada lawmaker claims that a member of Ukraine's first delegation in talks with Russia, Denis Kireev, was killed by the Security Service of Ukraine during arrest on suspicion of treason.

14) any country Imposing No-Fly Zone Over Ukraine Will Be Deemed Party to Conflict - Putin

Another su-34 may have been down. So 2 su-34 and 1 su-30 and 1 mi-24 today. They suck at SEAD. Bring those kh-25P and kh-31 and drones. Where are the su-57 to launch kh-31 from safe areas ?

They have everything they need to hunt the AD but the officer suck. They don't use everytjing they have. Su-25 armed with kh-25 should be all over the place.

They're flying low, Ukraine has strong AD, so why arent they high up in large numbers with forward planes baiting the AD

And rear planes sending kh31 to radar emissions ?

Basic SEAD, these imbeciles are sending fighters alone at low altitude to do a bomb run like its 2008

Its criminal incompetence, and not defensible at all, I least I cant defend such a position

VKS planes should own that sky, and I cannot explain why it's like token velvet approach

I am not saying bomb indiscriminately, but when a unit is ambushed, that's when it's time to just drop the kitchen sink on everything in the area

It's coming, I'm sure. More normal use of force, that is.

Russian rocket artillery (MLRS) firing a salvo at Ukrainian army positions in Ukraine’s Kherson region

Huge crowd of civilians came to receive weapons in Zaporozhie (under Ukrainian control)

https://t.me/nuhachrus/4034

Yep, Putin fucked up alright

Putin is a fool here, they will never negotiate how he wants, they just do this to buy time this is the third time now and they've done it and he still won't learn his lesson lawls

Very well put, anytime there are losses, it's difficult to refrain from reacting emotionally

But you're correct , when taking into account the destruction of enemy material and the quality of material

It is a successful operation, of course 100% success would be favorable

Ukraine by no means is the weakest country around

But when spoiled by operation like Kazakhstan with no losses, the vast majority including myself expect their to be little to no losses

But you're right, keep working brothers

I have a question regarding the recent discussions and Zelenksies wish for a no-fly zone. What exactly does this imply for this conflict and why would Russia care about it at all? Who would be enforcing this "no fly zone" NATO?

Thats alot.

I don't know man, both sides always in war inflate enemy loses, has always been, but this what for we have photos. And it doesn't look good.

The UK Defence Minister eluded to this kind of problem as a reason not to.

Not that I'm proud of anything here. I hate all this shit, and this whole war.

Sorry man, I have no sympathy for any of them
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Activating nuclear forces. There is clear hatred for the west at this point

Putin is trying to solve the problem he himself contributed to with war. It's his indictment.

All the criticism of Putin's actions are garbage sitting on garbage assumptions. Fobbing off the biowarfare labs and the
clear move to nuclear weapons by Zelensky is automatic loss of argument. These two factors alone are more than enough
cause for a regime change operation.

But our idiots do not care about the opinions of people who are much more intelligent, educated, talented and even much more successful than themselves. Simply because they are idiots."

Mr smoothie used to be a member here. Wish he still posted. He was on mp.net. he always had solid info.

As a prominent maneuverist once said, maps don't lie.

Just like Navalny and his 100 million view fake video and his failed street protests. The propagandists can really turn up the heat. But the hangover eventually comes after the painful reality sets in.

The official Russian losses are over 500. That is a lot of equipment and more than anything posted in these
threads by a wide margin.

Scale.

Those with some knowledge can use SSH tuna providers, good luck blocking that.

Arkanghelsk wrote:Dont post videos of russians dead here

It's a ban

miketheterrible wrote:Honestly, I expected better from Python. I know he is a commie wannabe, but never expected him to be a turncoat that posts Ukie propaganda. Should have expected it when he was crying about this conflict. Crying about how Russians are now protecting Russians and killing Ukie azov and other nazi wannabes. He cares for them, far more than his own kind.  Communists were like that. Always cared for some two bit shitstain state like Ukraine.

Arkanghelsk wrote:The reason any of these shit heads can talk like this

Is the Kremlin's fault

The soft approach and the goddamn gore vids they gave out to everyone gave free ammo for all the propaganda outlets to run amok

Plus mods let this shit be distributed , were on a russian forum and fuckers posting gore vids


Way to go guys

GarryB wrote:

Turn the taps right down to a trickle and then find the leaks and make an example of them.

Sujoy wrote:Ukrainian Pres. Voldymyr Zelensky presents "Hero of Ukraine" award to Dmytro Kotsyubaylo, commander of fascistic Right Sector paramilitary on 12/1/21.

"Zelensky's top financier, Igor Kolomoisky, a Ukrainian billionaire who happens to be Jewish, has also been a patron of the neo-Nazi Azov battalion."

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1500193237029502979?s=20&t=TA9n-g2_Pg_eSSbNFozraA

Werewolf wrote:With the imminent threat of Ukraine and a fool as its "President" who can not even think for himself or 5 Minutes into the future allowed the US to build labs for biological weapons, who acquired NATO weaponary, who constantly asks for NATO intervention and has threatened to acquire nuclear weapons against Russia, with the necessary technology, know-how and motivation to actually do it...What should Vladimir Putin do? More diplomacy? That certainly worked so well, talking to the West who declared you years ago as a "nuthead" and "every word is a lie" or the Ukrainians who have decided we are their enemy? What in your opinion should VVP have done to have a better option?

Sujoy wrote:Ukrainian Pres. Voldymyr Zelensky presents "Hero of Ukraine" award to Dmytro Kotsyubaylo, commander of fascistic Right Sector paramilitary on 12/1/21.

ALAMO wrote:I have one comment folks.
When things are foggy out there, a quick look into history to make a comparison is not a bad idea.

A mass exodus of the civilian population from the areas that are not directly targeted by the operation? Checked.
The disintegration of local authorities? Checked.
A mass exodus of wealthy people, who knows a bit better? Checked.
Public punishments? Checked.
Governing applied by a bunch of armed goons? Checked.
Creating an armed militia out of ordinary citizens, without proper training? Checked.
General staff communication, proving that they are in a panic mode so deep that relocating the cities on a map? Checked.
Panic communication mode by supreme command towards population? Checked.
Killings on the streets, including killings of authorities? Checked.

And where are we?
In Nazi Reich, spring 1945.

Oh my oh my oh my, who would guess that twitter war does not apply to the real one ...  

thegopnik wrote:slow and steady wins the race.