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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:57 pm

    Not sure of it has been reported already here but Putin announced that the families of dead Russian soldiers will receive 1 million Roubles, an income and a grant in recompense for the loss of their child.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:59 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Trending on German Twitter apparently

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 4 FM8NUojXsAMaDzS?format=jpg&name=900x900

    Thankfully, the Germans are nowhere near what they used to be. Chances are, the migrants in the country will burn it down before the Germans themselves mobilize. Plus doubt many will want to go and die.

    You can bet that the promise of $111bn in new arms for German forces will end up half that if not less.

    Give to the end of the year Germany will be back buying Russian gas from NS2

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    Post  Regular Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:05 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:It's not enough, you know why?

    When you have a son, who is above age , but is doing constantly drugs, and hurting himself, you need to lock him in rehabilitation

    Screw his feelings and his tears, he should lose his freedom until he proves he can keep himself alive

    It's the same with Russia and Ukraine. This state has proven unable to govern itself in a responsible way and was waving a gun at Russia while high and drunk

    So off to rehab for Ukropia, they will lose most of what they have and knew as Ukraine until they can prove that they are responsible to handle affairs

    I think Russia should drop this Big Brother mentality as it's purely Americanism. We will see how this so called rehab will go on, Ukraine was on a life support of western investment, now it will be Russian investment, Russians rebuilding it, Russians paying families of deceased Ukrainian soldiers (Russia did support chechen families no matter what side), helping all the poor and the like.

    I know this was already considered by Russian leadership, but I am having hard time to imagine this. Ukraine was always a money pit, this war will not change that. Don't tell me it's Ukrainian propaganda as they would never call themselves that.

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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:08 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Trending on German Twitter apparently

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 4 FM8NUojXsAMaDzS?format=jpg&name=900x900

    Thankfully, the Germans are nowhere near what they used to be. Chances are, the migrants in the country will burn it down before the Germans themselves mobilize. Plus doubt many will want to go and die.

    You can bet that the promise of $111bn in new arms for German forces will end up half that if not less.

    Give to the end of the year Germany will be back buying Russian gas from NS2

    $110bn? Where they get that money?

    They are crying about gas prices as is. So where money coming from?

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    Post  Hole Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:08 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Did Belarussian army enter Ukraine?

    The US says that it has no evidence that they have.

    That means they are closing in on Warsaw. Laughing

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    Post  thegopnik Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:14 pm

    kazahkstan mobilizing as well besides belarus? https://twitter.com/aigul_pavel/status/1498717512623697922
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    Post  Hole Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:16 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Trending on German Twitter apparently

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 4 FM8NUojXsAMaDzS?format=jpg&name=900x900

    Thankfully, the Germans are nowhere near what they used to be. Chances are, the migrants in the country will burn it down before the Germans themselves mobilize. Plus doubt many will want to go and die.

    You can bet that the promise of $111bn in new arms for German forces will end up half that if not less.

    Give to the end of the year Germany will be back buying Russian gas from NS2

    $110bn? Where they get that money?

    They are crying about gas prices as is. So where money coming from?

    Printing press, baby! ECB prints, the morons in Berlin take the money and we pay the prize: double digit inflation, more and more debt. The german debt during the Pandemic went trough the roof.
    It really fucks to mess with the largest supplier of energy, commodities and grain on the planet.

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    Post  kvs Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:20 pm

    Regarding the position of Alexander Mercouris: he is not on the same planet when it comes to the nuclear threat from Zelensky. He assumes
    that this threat is hollow without providing any argument why it is hollow. Ukraine/Banderastan retained the skilled personnel and
    nuclear infrastructure to manufacture nuclear devices. Even a dirty bomb is an extreme threat. Mercouris expects Russia to
    ignore the threat because he personally thinks it has no weight. That is simply moronic.

    The problem with academics, of which Mercouris is one, is that they get high on their own flatulence. He should stick to the political,
    economics and legal analysis. He is way out of his depth on technology issues.

    I am being harsh because this pooh pooh attitude about Zelensky's threat is over the top inanity.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:27 pm

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    Post  kvs Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:33 pm

    This intervention should be a decades long project to assimilate Novorossyia back into Russia. Ukraine was a fake state created by
    the Bolsheviks. Keeping western Banderites together with ethnic Russians in the same box is criminally insane. The Banderites blew
    their chance over the last 8 years to create their Greater Banderastan. This is true even if millions of Russians in the east and south
    think they are Banderites. We see no evidence of grass roots opposition to the Russian "invasion" in the south and east. All we see
    is transplanted Banderite militants engaged terrorism against civilians.

    The liberated regions should be clamped down from ever returning into NATzO's orbit. All the malcontents can move to Poland or
    western Ukraine and live it up. It is absurd that this malcontent minority should be used as the pretext to throw the majority under
    the bus and be subjected to eventual genocide, which includes full cultural and linguistic assimilation.

    Russia should not waste resources trying to pacify western Ukraine. That would be insanely idiotic. It it is a lost cause and was
    rotten from before 1917. Let Banderastan rise from this rural toilet. A tight border between Vinnitsa and Zhytomir would keep the
    pustule infestation from corrupting the rest of the country.

    I hope that NATzO's hysteria plays into this rational scenario. There is no way to save some phony state Ukraine with a "demilitarization"
    and "denazification". How is the "cleaned" state supposed to protect itself from the disease financed by NATzO? It needs armed forces
    to prevent insurgent infiltration. Leaving some city councils, infested with Banderites, to rebuild Ukraine after a Russian withdrawal is
    guaranteed failure. The liberated regions need decades to fix. They need to be made into a protectorate with Russian military bases
    like in Kosovo.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:35 pm

    Any confirmation on this, a post from a UK site? It seems pretty specific and Russian Generals do operate much further forward than NATO's do, as we have seen in Syria.

    Russian Major General Andrei Sukhovetsky reported as KIA in Ukraine by Russian media. Hit by a sniper!

    “Andrei Sukhovetsky was the commanding general of the Russian 7th Airborne Division and a deputy commander of the 41st Combined Arms Army, and by far the most senior Russian figure to have died in the conflict so far.

    A military source said Maj Gen Sukhovetsky had been killed by a sniper”
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:36 pm

    Demilitarization and denazification are like politically correct terms for regime change

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:37 pm

    kvs wrote:Regarding the position of Alexander Mercouris: he is not on the same planet when it comes to the nuclear threat from Zelensky.   He assumes
    that this threat is hollow without providing any argument why it is hollow.   Ukraine/Banderastan retained the skilled personnel and
    nuclear infrastructure to manufacture nuclear devices.   Even a dirty bomb is an extreme threat.   Mercouris expects Russia to
    ignore the threat because he personally thinks it has no weight.   That is simply moronic.  

    The problem with academics, of which Mercouris is one, is that they get high on their own flatulence.   He should stick to the political,
    economics and legal analysis.   He is way out of his depth on technology issues.  

    I am being harsh because this pooh pooh attitude about Zelensky's threat is over the top inanity.  

    Not just nukes, there was like a dozen bio weapon labs all over Orcland. They were high-priority targets, that's why Iskander-M's were used to blitzkrieg them, before the Nazi's could release any highly contagious pathogens out of desperation.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:42 pm

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    Post  Regular Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:49 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Demilitarization and denazification are like politically correct terms for regime change

    Yes. The thing is that Russia always tried to preserve regimes and criticised that Western regine changes don't work. Now when roles are reversed.

    Does Ukraine have any functioning industry left? Or it's all just "chernozem"
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    Post  Regular Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:51 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Any confirmation on this, a post from a UK site?  It seems pretty specific and Russian Generals do operate much further forward than NATO's do, as we have seen in Syria.

    Russian Major General Andrei Sukhovetsky reported as KIA in Ukraine by Russian media. Hit by a sniper!

    “Andrei Sukhovetsky was the commanding general of the Russian 7th Airborne Division and a deputy commander of the 41st Combined Arms Army, and by far the most senior Russian figure to have died in the conflict so far.

    A military source said Maj Gen Sukhovetsky had been killed by a sniper”

    Not seeing any reports from more credible forces. Killed by an artillery strike would be more believable. Ukraine has Tochka U missiles and live intelligence feed from US. But sniper... Let me ignore this until we get confirmation

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    Post  Regular Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:51 pm

    thegopnik wrote:

    Floido of Kiev

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    Post  kvs Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:54 pm

    Kanada has taken Russian nationals hostage. It detained them on a chartered flight in Yellow Knife. Note that this
    was not a Russian plane flying over Kanada, it was Russian nationals in a charter plane.

    Russian needs to take some Kanadians hostage in return and demand the release of its hostages in Kanada.

    Kanada is now officially a totalitarian toilet.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:59 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Trending on German Twitter apparently

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4 - Page 4 FM8NUojXsAMaDzS?format=jpg&name=900x900

    Thankfully, the Germans are nowhere near what they used to be. Chances are, the migrants in the country will burn it down before the Germans themselves mobilize. Plus doubt many will want to go and die.

    You can bet that the promise of $111bn in new arms for German forces will end up half that if not less.

    Give to the end of the year Germany will be back buying Russian gas from NS2

    $110bn? Where they get that money?

    They are crying about gas prices as is. So where money coming from?

    A fake pledge that's all. Germany let it's current forces fall to pieces I remember the sub scandal. Kept cutting the budget and shelving tanks, and couldn't service their subs most were out of action. So there is no way even if they did buy $111bn would they ever be able to maintain it.

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    Post  Regular Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:09 pm

    kvs wrote:Kanada has taken Russian nationals hostage.   It detained them on a chartered flight in Yellow Knife.   Note that this
    was not a Russian plane flying over Kanada, it was Russian nationals in a charter plane.  

    Russian needs to take some Kanadians hostage in return and demand the release of its hostages in Kanada.

    Kanada is now officially a totalitarian toilet.


    Day old news, feels like months by how fast things move. The question is, what is happening to passengers, they can't keep them in the airport indefinitely. How come they have anything to do with this war? I know that Canada banned chartered planes as well, but don't tell me they have no clue what to do with the passengers. Also, no point to seize Canadians, it would be counterproductive, knowing their gov, it wouldn't do a shit
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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:12 pm

    par far wrote:



    Good video, and Macgregors words with Tucker are priceless. Its good to know that there are still some experienced military professionals in the US that are not afraid of speaking the truth, and will not be cowed by the Atlantacist Russophobes and demented woke liberasts.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:17 pm

    Western media can't get anymore vile. This guy's a C*not

    British TV Host Slammed for Telling Viewers Russian Soldiers ‘Deserve to Die’

    Veteran British TV presenter Jeremy Vine has been condemned for his on-air assertion that Russian soldiers fighting in Ukraine "deserve to die".

    https://sputniknews.com/20220303/british-tv-host-slammed-for-telling-viewers-russian-soldiers-deserve-to-die-1093565078.html

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    Post  Kriva Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:21 pm

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    Post  kvs Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:22 pm

    Rogozin: Yuzhmash facilities were converted for ballistic missile production.

    Will people like Mercouris scoff at this too. Recall all the bitching at Iran for being a threat with its ballistic missiles. Supposedly the
    termination of the ABM treaty was to save U-rope from Iran.

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