Hmm...why park them like it's car exhibition seriously. These seem abandoned also.
Ukr Navy existed only on paper to be fair.
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lyle6 wrote:If the Russians want advice from losers who occupied a shithole for 20 years and got booted out in the most humiliating way possible, they'd go ahead and ask. Until then, stfu.SeigSoloyvov wrote:
Well they better get a move on at this rate wont be 1-2 weeks.
Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Did Belarussian army enter Ukraine?
Mir wrote:@f_p
The DNR/LNR are already recognized by Russia as independent - I can't see them being part of any Ukrainian federation in the near future. They are more likely to join the RF and I suspect most of the East and Southern parts will follow suite.
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:lyle6 wrote:If the Russians want advice from losers who occupied a shithole for 20 years and got booted out in the most humiliating way possible, they'd go ahead and ask. Until then, stfu.SeigSoloyvov wrote:
Well they better get a move on at this rate wont be 1-2 weeks.
Got anger issues bud? I think so.
You are the one who said 1-2 weeks and I simply replied at the rate they are currently going it won't be within that time frame, my statement wasn't wrong.
You just reacted like a child for no reason, if you cannot handle being told your words are wrong. Then don't post them.
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Isos wrote:SeigSoloyvov wrote:lyle6 wrote:If the Russians want advice from losers who occupied a shithole for 20 years and got booted out in the most humiliating way possible, they'd go ahead and ask. Until then, stfu.SeigSoloyvov wrote:
Well they better get a move on at this rate wont be 1-2 weeks.
Got anger issues bud? I think so.
You are the one who said 1-2 weeks and I simply replied at the rate they are currently going it won't be within that time frame, my statement wasn't wrong.
You just reacted like a child for no reason, if you cannot handle being told your words are wrong. Then don't post them.
My opinion is that 80% of ukrainian fighting forces are on the eastern front as well as in Kiev.
So it's quite normal it goes slowly. Once they win there there would be nothing left. They will roll over the country easily.
And those two front are to encircled so no escape for ukrainians.
Ukrainian need to overthrow Zelensky and find an agreement. Their country is still stand up. A siege will anhilate their cities and their people.
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ALAMO wrote:flamming_python wrote:Now would be a good time for a ceasefire to be honest
Whatever the geopolitics of it all, from here on out is a straight road to the abyss. And neither side wants to go there, I think.
Putin will not win anything in the Ukraine, just inherit a giant problem, which will bring him down. And I think he wants to politically survive until 2024, to step down in peace and quiet.
Well, I must admit that the goals of this operation used to be far beyond my imagination, indeed.
But as soon as the dots appeared, and I have started to connect those - it was more and more clear.
I really understand your pacifist agenda, but to consider that Russkies will stand all that shitload applied to them only to return to status quo is naive.
Sorry lad.
It won't happen'
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:
I do not doubt the russians will win, clearly, they will.
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flamming_python wrote:
My agenda is not pacifist. Else why would I be on this site. There are times when war is a necessity. This is not one of them.
And I think there is enough here to present as a 'victory' already. DNR/LNR in full borders. Greater part of Nazis cratered. No Ukraine in NATO.
Rest is none of Russia's business, in any shape or form.
Russia never pursued maximalist war aims in Georgia. It did a quick op, and got out. Result 15 years later, is that the same Saakashvilli is now in jail, and Georgia itself has taken a neutral position to the conflict in the Ukraine. If Russian forces had attempted to storm Tbilisi at the time we would have ended up with I don't even know what.
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Stealthflanker wrote:flamming_python wrote:
My agenda is not pacifist. Else why would I be on this site. There are times when war is a necessity. This is not one of them.
And I think there is enough here to present as a 'victory' already. DNR/LNR in full borders. Greater part of Nazis cratered. No Ukraine in NATO.
Rest is none of Russia's business, in any shape or form.
Russia never pursued maximalist war aims in Georgia. It did a quick op, and got out. Result 15 years later, is that the same Saakashvilli is now in jail, and Georgia itself has taken a neutral position to the conflict in the Ukraine. If Russian forces had attempted to storm Tbilisi at the time we would have ended up with I don't even know what.
Yeah, i agree that full recognition of DNR/LDR + Recognition of Crimea as Russian territory is enough.
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JohninMK wrote:Trending on German Twitter apparently
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https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/13938067
MOSCOW, March 2. /TASS/. A Russian tank taking part in a special operation in Ukraine was attacked by an American anti-tank system (ATGM) Javelin, the crew received a shell shock, but did not leave the battle. This was announced by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Major General Igor Konashenkov.
"During the battle, a Russian tank was attacked by an American Javelin ATGM. The crew received a shell shock, but did not get out of the battle," he said, adding that the tankers, having made sure that the equipment was in good condition, destroyed two more enemy tanks with well-aimed fire.
Konashenkov added that the Russian military department would continue to regularly bring information about the exploits and heroism of Russian servicemen.
The first batch of American Javelin anti-tank missile systems arrived in Ukraine on April 30, 2018. The exact number of units was not reported. A month earlier that year, the State Department approved the transfer to Kiev of 210 missiles and 37 launchers worth $47 million. In January-February 2022, the United States delivered nine military aid packages to Ukraine, in particular, Javelin man-portable anti-tank missile systems. In addition, on January 20, the United States allowed Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania to supply Ukraine with Javelin and Stinger anti-tank and anti-aircraft systems manufactured by the United States.
miketheterrible wrote:
While I respect the two Alex's, I feel they are very nieve to a degree. They think that somehow, some kind of negotiations with Ukraine will amount to anything. The Russians outright said that they just break every agreement regardless what's written. So why would they come to any agreement now?
It's the same, negotiate and then break it all later and flood Ukraine with nato soldiers. They are very silly with their beliefs.
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