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    Αnti-Rogozin thread for tantrums.

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    Post  Scorpius Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:05 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Scorpius wrote:...

    Were you asleep for past half a decade?

    Russia is clogged with sanctions, every single segment of Russian aerospace industry is under sanctions except specific parts that benefit USA (which will also be sanctioned as soon as it's convenient for USA)

    Rogozin is sanctioned as well alongside everyone else above certain pay grade in Roskosmos

    And most importantly Americans are not using trampoline for anything but have developed several new systems all more efficient than Soviet leftovers that Russia still uses and is unable to move away from

    Only thing Trampoline Man accomplished was to out himself as retard for entire world to see and to make Russia look like nation of morons for tolerating his braindead bullshit




    Rogozin is sanctioned as well alongside everyone else above certain pay grade in Roskosmos
    There was not a word about sanctions against Rogozin (he does not care about them, as he has repeatedly said). The quote referred to sanctions against Russian enterprises that provide flights to the ISS.


    And most importantly Americans are not using trampoline for anything but have developed several new systems all more efficient than Soviet leftovers that Russia still uses and is unable to move away from
    Ok, you could immediately write that you like to lick the sweet penis* of your American masters - then I would not waste my time on explanations.

    But just so that outsiders understand the nonsense of your argument: the Americans began developing their spaceships TEN YEARS BEFORE Rogozin uttered the phrase about trampolines.

    Americans are not using trampoline for anything but have developed several new systems all more efficient than Soviet leftovers
    What is their "superiority" over Soviet technologies expressed in?

    Soviet leftovers that Russia still uses and is unable to move away from
    This is such a blatant level of incompetence that I don't know whether to laugh or resent it.

    *OK, man, before you get offended , I got you drunk on your own qoolaid. You use exactly the same turns of speech.

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    Post  kvs Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:20 pm

    PD has Russia derangement syndrome. This is a common disease because so many losers want to get off by feeling superior
    over Russians (thanks to incessant western propaganda painting Russians as untermenschen) but realize that it is they themselves
    that are inferior. So out comes the hate diarrhea.

    PD thinks that all Russian rockets are the same design as in 1990 and Russia is just using old Soviet stock. What a moron. Even
    the Soyuz is a different design. Also, what is wrong with evolving clearly great Soviet rocket models instead of trashing them like
    Ukr-tards to prove how un-Soviet the new order is.

    Let's see a spacewalk in those Space-X Armani space suits.



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    Post  Hole Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:07 pm

    Most of these great new american systems are the same. Very efficent to develop the same rocket tech over and over again because some Oligarchs have problems with their little d... censored

    It would be better if this great mankind loving ultra rich guys gave a few Billion to real scientists and let them develop new satellites or build new telescopes. That would really do something.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Sep 20, 2021 1:01 pm

    This is the anti Rogozin thread for tantrums, so if members want to unload then they are entitled to do so but need to be aware that just because the thread topic is anti Rogozin rants and tantrums, not every member who posts in this thread has to agree and indeed can take a counter position if they wish.

    No personal abuse is OK though, so please be careful what you say.

    It will probably help if neither side of the discussion takes this thread too seriously.

    No one has to agree with you no matter what the facts.
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    Post  Mindstorm Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:18 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:He called the damned Muricanz out on their incessent BS...

    Called them out?

    That moron spent his entire tenure on Roskosmos whining about how Russia will cut ties with NASA and now here he is on CNN on his knees and mouth open claiming he didn't threaten anything and gobbling big juicy alpha-dog cock on record and in the name of his country

    There is no "masterplan" behind his bullshit, there isn't even most basic plan or neural activity whatsoever, there's just him being a retard




    This debate about Д.Рого́зин...another one..... including the absurd one about the restructuring of the program for the creation of the super-heavy vector rocket has gained surreal charecteristics.

    I have a precise idea of the reasons for which the ,by very far, most competent and efficient director of any space agency today in charge around the world is so often object of low level critics in public available media (professionals of the sector, in the know, both in the Federation and aboard maintain on its capabilities, its work, its results and even more its development programs a completely opposite opinion) but will retain them for me.


    1) Д. Рого́зин has not promised to return to collaborate with NASA on ISS, the decision to proceed for an independent station has been already taken ,it has to do with testing and applications of now in development technical solutions that, as its habit, mister Рого́зин follow personally and that cannot be obviously shared in a multi-national joint project for reasons of national security.

    Д. Рого́зин has merely clarified that this will not happen now ,but will instead happen together with the natural degradation of ISS's integrity ,therefore not today but neither the 2030 date scheduled by NASA.

    2) The decision about the restructuring of the program for the super-heavy follow the same deep reasons: use start-up funding to instead finance and complete the research and development of perspective technologies capable to put foreign products well behind (10-12 years at least) domestic ones.

    What happened with the different development programs for the creation of perspective offensive and defensive strategic weaponry, the results of a part of which has so deeply shaken western military industrial complex and analysts, is for a good part the result of the personal work of Д. Рого́зин, the man in particular show wizardly good capabilitites in coordinate and organize ,in an unified way, joint work for colossal projects involving an enormous amount of scientifical and production Institutes and Bureaux -also historically enemies- avoiding overlapping of works and expertises and scientifical bottlle-necks.
    It has repeatedly proved that over and over.

    If the necessary amount of investement will be provided to the super-heavy vector program i have not even a single doubt that the huge technological gap created over western developments in hypersonic propulsion, high energy coherent beams and compact nuclear reactors will appear in comparison a little drop....



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