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    Post  franco Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:38 pm

    Another Western article, mind you from January, making sense. Wonder if he still has a job?

    Joe Biden and the Challenge of Ukraine

    America is trapped. It cannot abandon its current policy toward Ukraine without appearing to offer Russia an undeserved victory, yet it also cannot continue its current policy because it enhances internal divisions that stoke popular frustration and anger toward America.

    Full article: https://nationalinterest.org/feature/joe-biden-and-challenge-ukraine-176086

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    Post  franco Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:42 pm

    So what have you been doing the past 6 years again No  dunno

    https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1378000128640962560

    ASB News / MILITARY @ASBMilitary

    NEW: Ukrainian officials just held a phone call with the UK, in short, asking UK to help them with Russia due to large # of Russian military units around Ukrainian borders, UK promised assistance by training Ukrainian servicemen & developing capabilities of the Ukrainian military Suspect

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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:27 pm

    Have you noticed in the White House release Johnin posted absolutely doesn't say a single word about military assistance?

    It's obvious why. They don't want to fight for Ukraine. Ukraine is on its own.

    I just wonder if anyone in Ukraine actually knows this?

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    Post  Finty Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:38 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Btw, no, USA won't go to war for Ukraine.  US troops fled in Syria when Russian troops were approaching.

    Not always, wasn't there the time when they had a firefight for a few hours and killed several Russians with airstrikes?
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    Post  franco Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:43 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Have you noticed in the White House release Johnin posted absolutely doesn't say a single word about military assistance?

    It's obvious why.  They don't want to fight for Ukraine. Ukraine is on its own.

    I just wonder if anyone in Ukraine actually knows this?

    Support his anti-corruption endeavors Rolling Eyes (except for Hunter mind you affraid )

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    Post  Backman Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:19 pm

    Finty wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:Btw, no, USA won't go to war for Ukraine.  US troops fled in Syria when Russian troops were approaching.

    Not always, wasn't there the time when they had a firefight for a few hours and killed several Russians with airstrikes?

    No. That was a made up story. Supposedly hundreds of Russian Wagner mercs were killed in some air strike. Yet there was zero evidence of this. Not one picture or footage on the ground. No reports of a high number of casualties suddenly showing up at medical facilities around Syria. Nothing. There was a cheap shot air strike on some Syrian forces just when Lavrov and John Karry were negotiating a ceasefire but that was something different.

    It was a just a face saving story for the US to congratulate itself on having killed some Russian. Russia was just coy about the whole thing just so that it would blow over. They kept upping the number for effect too.

    Look at this. 640 Russians killed. Yeah sure.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5386503/More-640-Russian-mercenary-soldiers-killed-Syria.html

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    Post  LMFS Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:55 pm

    Wow the propaganda volume is turned to 11 right now... the West encouraging Ukraine to be the useful idiots of the hour but with no single plan to get involved in the actual fighting, Kiev government using their people as cannon fodder, Russia sending already very obvious warnings to everyone to stop this madness... so in essence events are developing just as predicted by a few good analysts. It indeed seems the plans are already in place and it is likely that they will be executed. Bye bye Ukraine!

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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:37 pm

    Finty wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:Btw, no, USA won't go to war for Ukraine.  US troops fled in Syria when Russian troops were approaching.

    Not always, wasn't there the time when they had a firefight for a few hours and killed several Russians with airstrikes?

    No. That was bullshit. 12 people got killed and were Mercs. Bulgarians mostly.
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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:40 pm

    Backman wrote:
    Finty wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:Btw, no, USA won't go to war for Ukraine.  US troops fled in Syria when Russian troops were approaching.

    Not always, wasn't there the time when they had a firefight for a few hours and killed several Russians with airstrikes?

    No. That was a made up story. Supposedly hundreds of Russian Wagner mercs were killed in some air strike. Yet there was zero evidence of this. Not one picture or footage on the ground. No reports of a high number of casualties suddenly showing up at medical facilities around Syria. Nothing. There was a cheap shot air strike on some Syrian forces just when Lavrov and John Karry were negotiating a ceasefire but that was something different.

    It was a just a face saving story for the US to congratulate itself on having killed some Russian. Russia was just coy about the whole thing just so that it would blow over. They kept upping the number for effect too.

    Look at this. 640 Russians killed. Yeah sure.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5386503/More-640-Russian-mercenary-soldiers-killed-Syria.html


    Stalkerzone covered it and pointed out the BS. 12 Mercs died, about 7 of them were Bulgarians, a few Ukrainians and Russian Mercs.

    Even the Russians laughed at the cheap propaganda. And when the US double downed on it, they were claiming it was radio contact from owner of Wagner. The guy who RT then found was living in some small town in Northern Russia that lives in a run down apartment and is known for being mentally ill.

    The whole thing was hilarious

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    Post  auslander Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:41 pm

    OK. It's been long enough that a lot of what I may say is either in the local news or common knowledge. It is more true than you can imagine that the clans are indeed gathering up north. It is well publicized that literally several thousands of veterans from the earlier stages of the war are streaming back to the colours including some who are now grey beards and should have been pensioned off. It is common knowledge and well publicized about the large and ongoing Russian troop movements and rearrangements, plenty of vids out there but I won't, of course, give a specific location ID even though I can just by looking at them. It is well publicized about NAF mobilizing and calling up the reserves. Hopefully it won't be needed, the ground up there is soggy and wet and trust me, if you've never seen the rich black chernozim of the steppes wet, you ain't seen mud.

    Apparently President Putin was pretty strong in the video conference he had with Merkle and Macron, apparently telling the pair of them that they were guarantors of Minsk 1 and Minsk 2 and to this day neither has done jaque schitts to make the orcs follow the agreement that those very orcs signed along with that pair. He apparently told that worthy pair that Novorossiya will not be attacked. Period. And never, ever forget, VVP don't threaten nor does he say what the consequences will be if The Fatherland and La Belle France do something stupud, at least more stupud than they've been of late.

    Having seen the conjecture maps on this site about what NAF might take if it comes to a fight, I have no idea, but if certain parts of orcland are, indeed, freed from penury under Kiev ya'll need to look at the map in detail and find the canal coming from the Dnepr to Krimea. You know, the one the orcs dammed conveniently after they were paid over 4 millions of dollars for the water for Krimea. If anything is taken in addition to all of DNR and LNR it will be a wide corridor along that canal, defensible for sure and wide enough for same.

    Locally, the populace is going about their business without a care in the world. No shortages in shops, no hording, no one casting nervous eyes at the skies waiting for the cloud of cruise missiles that will without a doubt come our way if the kaka really hits the whirling blades. If it does come to war with someone beyond the orcs then Romania and Bulgaria will be in it, Uncle Sugar has plenty of missile batteries there and somewhere between the second and third Patriot lighting off is when the Wrath of God will fall upon them and the pair of them will cease to exist. Turkey, who knows, but I wouldn't trust them any more than I'd trust a lady of the evening with my wallet whilst I shoot pool.

    We are doing well, although worried of our loved ones serving up north.

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    Post  Hole Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:58 pm

    JohninMK wrote:The Situation in the Ukraine. #29 - Page 6 Ex-lQDxWYAUxzcV?format=png&name=900x900

    "Shared democtrativ values" Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Send them the video with the Nazi guy firing a RPG-7 at a village and then raising his right arm in the "olympic salute".

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    Post  LMFS Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:51 pm

    In the state Duma declared the right of Russia to protect its citizens in the Donbass

    SIMFEROPOL, 2 APR-RIA Novosti. Deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation, head of the Russia — Donbass integration CommitteeAndrey Kozenko said that in the event of an increase in military operations in theIn the Donbas Russia will have the full right to protect its citizens living there.
    Previously, the press serviceThe Ukrainian defense Ministry said that official Washington promised to provide supportTo Kiev in the event of an escalation of the situation in the Donbass. In a statement, the Ukrainian defense Ministry claims that the us Secretary of defense stressed that "in the event of an escalation of Russian aggression, the United States will not abandonUkraine in private."

    "In The Pentagon habitually forgets that it has no right to interfere in the Affairs of other States. To the conflict in the DonbasWashington has nothing to do with it. And if in the event of increased military operations, especially with the participation of the us military, in the Donbass, this will be open aggression on the part of the United States, then Russia will have every right to protect citizens living in the Donbass and its compatriots, to whom it is obliged to provide comprehensive support in accordance with the recently approved amendments to the Constitution,"

    According to him, in this case, the balance of power "is unlikely to be on the side of the ukro-Americans."

    "In fact, Ukraine and the United States discussed a common combat readiness for joint military operations against the residents of Donbass, not very skillfully hiding all this with the mythical "aggression" of Russia. After such statements, obviously, it is necessary to prepare for provocations from Ukraine. In addition, it is clear who the customer is, all the cards that hide the us concern about strengthening Russia's positions are revealed, " the Deputy said.

    https://ria.ru/20210402/donbass-1603935647.html

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:00 pm

    Hole wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:The Situation in the Ukraine. #29 - Page 6 Ex-lQDxWYAUxzcV?format=png&name=900x900

    "Shared democtrativ values" Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Send them the video with the Nazi guy firing a RPG-7 at a village and then raising his right arm in the "olympic salute".

    Show them video of murder-hobo's putting Syrians in cages.
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    Post  Yugo90 Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:22 pm

    Maybe it isn't such a bad idea that ukraine attacks russian population in donbass with those Nazi units....they would probably go on their last battle to die like real Nazi brainwashed thugs....I really hope those Nazi goatfuckrs get a real lesson from the bear....
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:05 am

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    Russian Ministry of Defense announced a rapid combat exercise for the Southern Military District which will include more than 100,000 personnel and more than 50 tactical battalion groups, including electronic warfare systems and AD units that include countering unmanned aircraft.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:33 am

    JohninMK wrote:spriters
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    Russian Ministry of Defense announced a rapid combat exercise for the Southern Military District which will include more than 100,000 personnel and more than 50 tactical battalion groups, including electronic warfare systems and AD units that include countering unmanned aircraft.

    Called it three days ago Cool

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t8476p50-the-situation-in-the-ukraine-29#319014

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    Post  littlerabbit Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:01 am

    Some new developments:

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    Here is the link:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/theragex/status/1378074968756514823

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    Post  Finty Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:30 am

    Now made it to MSM, first time I've seen Ukraine mentioned by the BBC for quite some time...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56616778


    Thanks all on here for the updates, they've been interesting.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:34 am

    #WARNING!!! Graphic, albeit the gore is censored but watch at your own risk! 404 the living meme nation, their soldiers on the front are literal Darwin Award winners! This was recorded as recently as March 31st, 2021.

    https://twitter.com/gunner_schmulke/status/1378020387095777284

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    Post  lyle6 Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:55 am

    Now that's a real Hitlerite if I ever see one. o7
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    Post  LMFS Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:14 am

    Shocked Shocked Shocked
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:18 am


    So he blazed a joint, played around with AK to look cool and ventilated his skull on full auto

    Can anyone translate what he was exactly saying before he ascended to Good Lord Darwin's domain?

    Just trying to piece together his reasoning (futile endeavor I know, but it's just professional curiosity, can't help it)






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    Post  The_Observer Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:19 am

    US formal/informal military attache presentation to cadets at WestPoint about Russian tactics in Ukraine


    * He spent time in the warzone with the Ukrainian during the hostilities.
    * provides some interesting tidbits
    * His overall understanding of the theater is seriously compromised by overreliance on Ukrainian military brass for information

    Audio issue clears up 3 mins in.
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