The Situation in the Ukraine. #29

PhSt wrote:Ukraine seems desperate to resort to such hostage diplomacy, Imagine if Russia did the same and offered to exchange imprisoned Russians in the US with Navalny, it would be plastered all over the news 24/7/365, but when Ukraine does it all you hear is cricket noise  

Putin will never participate in an exchange even though Medvedchuk is Putin's daughter's Godfather.

Pretty lulsworthy

Medvechuk is a creation of the Ukrainian oligarchs themselves, who desired 'normalization' with Moscow, while they continued with their pro-Western course behind the curtains

So exactly like how Yanukovich was created, before he turned on the oligarchs by refusing the Association Agreement with the EU and signing a deal with Russia instead. Which was when they overthrew him

Medvechuk is billed as a more controllable figurehead, who can certainly end the war and re-legalize the Russian language in the Ukraine, maybe get rid some of the more overt demonstrations of Ukronazism and pardon people involved in the anti-Maidan movement. This idea was supported by Berlin too.

All of that is welcome of course, but it will come at the cost of going back to business as usual before 2014 and Russia going back to subsidizing the Ukrainian economy again with orders, low gas prices and all the rest. It will also attempt to draw Russia back into a pro-Western orbit.
These conditions aren't acceptable to Putin so he refused them. And now with his uses run-out but his movement still gaining in polls, Zelensky and the Ukro-establishment demonized him, arrested his TV channels and now arrested him.

Well, at least this is a theory that was circulating around some Russia-govt associated channels on YouTube. But it makes the most sense.

Hence another few reasons why VVP won't get in the exchange prisoners business, especially with the land of orcs.

auslander wrote:Hence another few reasons why VVP won't get in the exchange prisoners business, especially with the land of orcs.

Yes, they can keep their own creature, who for Russia would have served as nought but a Trojan horse anyway.

The Ukrainian oligarchs are going to feel a squeeze around their balls.




"Putin Hints at Sanctions of Ukraine Oligarchs As Retaliation for Medvechuk Case"

Ukr chutzpah monkeys are demanding Russia give them "back" the Kuban region. Well, you retarded fcuks, not even after you return
Novorossiya (spanning from Odessa and including the Donbass) back to Russia. Kuban was never some "Ukraine". And Cossacks
are not ethnic Ukrs, they were a defender caste that spanned the Russian Empire and were composed mostly of ethnic Russians.
In parts of "Ukraine" they were "Ukrainians". But as usual, the Ukr nazionalists are trying to rob Russia of its history. There was
no Ukraine during the period of the Kievan Rus. After the Tatar-Mongol horde destroyed Kiev there was no prospering Ukrainian
ethnos living there. Ukrs are the result of occupation of these lands by the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Poland. Both practiced
forced de-Russification through forced cultural, linguistic and religious conversion.

Polaks love to hate on Russia for the period when Poland was under the Russian Empire. They systematically ignore that it was Poland's
own regional ambitions that made it a vassal (e.g. trying to engage in regime change in Russia) and Russia never abused Poles like they
abused Russians. There was no forced religious conversion and suppression of Polish language and culture. There was never a
program of assimilation like practiced by the Poles.

BTW, my Ukr half of the family lived under Polish rule after Poland annexed western Ukraine in 1920. All Ukrainians were treated
like second class citizens. For example, capricious and punitive taxation. The US always points to "taxation without representation"
as a key element in their revolution against Britain. The current love of Ukr nazionalists for Poland is extra special perversion considering
how Poland treated people on the territory of modern Ukraine. A favourite was impaling on poles. The modern phonies in Kiev who
are the product of German and later American and UK meddling would naturally extol Nazi butcher Bandera instead of a genuine historical
figure that may have relevance for a real ethnic and national identity.

Everyone already laughs at them. No one takes them seriously either.

Russia should just outright state what is theirs in Ukraine due to history with proof of said history and the Ukies will cry more.

All day and all night for several weeks the noise of training is constant. Streets and shops are devoid of uniforms, which is highly unusual. The noise of heavy convoys at night has stopped some days ago. Is war coming? Yes, seems so unless SehSha blinks and backs down. Will they? Better to ask 'can they', in my opinion SehSha has painted themselves in to a corner.

The proposed meeting between VVP and bidet is tentatively set for early or mid June. We'll see, but I can't imagine bidet's handlers allowing him to meet one on one with the premier statesman of the decade if not the century.

auslander wrote:All day and all night for several weeks the noise of training is constant. Streets and shops are devoid of uniforms, which is highly unusual. The noise of heavy convoys at night has stopped some days ago. Is war coming? Yes, seems so unless SehSha blinks and backs down. Will they? Better to ask 'can they', in my opinion SehSha has painted themselves in to a corner.

The proposed meeting between VVP and bidet is tentatively set for early or mid June. We'll see, but I can't imagine bidet's handlers allowing him to meet one on one with the premier statesman of the decade if not the century.

I think Putin would only agree to a meeting if Khuyiv commits to abide by the Minsk agreements. Which is not going to happen since Khuyiv's backers are
not interested in this scenario.

auslander wrote:All day and all night for several weeks the noise of training is constant.

Is this around you or somewhere else?

KVS

Personally I find it hard to believe that Biden's handlers will expose him to Putin and Lavrov. In his current mental state that would be giving the Russians a blackmail tool on a plate. If it happens expect some reason for Kamala to be a substitute.

JohninMK wrote: Is this around you or somewhere else?

For the time being I will report only what can be seen or heard by anyone, albeit perhaps not understood by many. Anything remotely concerned with OpSec will not be reported.

What I post is what I/we (meaning me and VCO) physically see and/or physically hear in public. There is a good sized Spetznaz base not half a klick from our house, common knowledge. Belbek Aerodrome is close enough that we can hear them take off if they are under full military power. VCO and I can walk for ten minutes to a friend's flat and from his balcony if the spirit moves us and the wind is right we can loft an empty beer bottle to the fantail of the Moskva (not that we would, suicide is not on the agenda). If you get drunk at St. Nikolas Church and fall out one of the gates (east, west, south gate I don't know), when you stop tumbling you will be flat on your face at our front gate with young Aleksandr and his uncle Ruslan smiling and thinking meat is back on the lunch menu.

Today, 20 May 2021, is identical to yesterday and quite some days in the near past. Nothing has changed to any great extent, if anything a slight increase in intensity.