64 missiles for the size of two UKSK. In the back there are another 2 sets that could also be upgraded with 64 missiles too bringing total to 128 missiles.


Isos wrote:64 missiles for the size of two UKSK. In the back there are another 2 sets that could also be upgraded with 64 missiles too bringing total to 128 missiles.
Isos wrote:64 missiles for the size of two UKSK. In the back there are another 2 sets that could also be upgraded with 64 missiles too bringing total to 128 missiles.
Is this image official final appearance of upgraded Udaloi?
Aww, I was hoping this was explicitly showing the intended final upgrade config.There is no official statement about upgrading udaloy air defence systems.
Big_Gazza wrote:Sad upgrade?
Remove 2x quad launchers for Rastrub and 1x 100mm gun but gain 2x UKSK bins and 2x launchers for Uran?
Man, you just ain't thinking straight....
Aww, I was hoping this was explicitly showing the intended final upgrade config.
If they're not actually doing that its gonna be a pretty sad upgrade unshaven
But leave only a 1980s age point-defense SAM to defend it.Remove 2x quad launchers for Rastrub and 1x 100mm gun but gain 2x UKSK bins and 2x launchers for Uran?
If you have a recent pic would be nice to see what they are doing.
But leave only a 1980s age point-defense SAM to defend it.
I still would have liked to see a Poliment Redut or Shtil-1 upgrade but new Naval Tor would be acceptable.
Hole wrote:It is a VLS.
The frigate Admiral Kasatonov hit the target with the Poliment-Redut missile system
TASS, February 3. The frigate of Project 22350 Admiral of the Fleet of Kasatonov, as part of the tests, successfully fired the Poliment-Redut anti-aircraft missile system in the Barents Sea, hitting a target missile. This is stated in a report circulated on Monday by the Northern Fleet.
"The crew of the ship hit the target missile launched by the crew of the small missile ship Dawn. The defeat of the air target was recorded by means of objective control," the report said.
After test firing, the frigate continued the program of state sea trials; its radio engineering systems were tested during flights of the Su-24 and An-26 aircraft of the Northern Fleet Air Force and Air Defense Association at various altitudes and distances.
Tests of the frigate "Admiral of the Casaton Fleet" in the Northern Fleet began on November 20, 2019 in the White Sea, and they take place in several stages. During the tests, the frigate’s missile armament complex with Caliber and Onyx cruise missile fires was tested at coastal and sea targets.
At the beginning of December last year, the crew of the frigate completed the transition from Severodvinsk to Severomorsk and conducted a series of tests in the Barents Sea. In particular, the sailors worked out interaction with aviation and submarines, tested radio-technical weapons and sonar systems.
After the completion of the entire complex of state sea trials and the signing of the acceptance certificate, the ship will be accepted into the Russian Navy. It is expected that the frigate will be enlisted in one of the formations of surface ships of the Northern Fleet.
About the ship and SAM
Admiral Kasatonov is the second (first serial) ship of Project 22350. In July 2018, the lead ship of this type, Admiral Gorshkov, entered the fleet. At the Severnaya Verf shipyard, two more frigates of this series are under construction - Admiral Golovko and Admiral Isakov. Project 22350 ships will become the most modern frigates of the Russian Navy. They have a displacement of 4.5 thousand tons and can reach speeds of up to 29 knots. They are also armed with the Onyx and Caliber missile systems, as well as the Poliment-Redut anti-aircraft missile system.
"Poliment-Redoubt" - ship anti-aircraft missile system with vertical launch. According to open sources, the system is capable of using 9M96MD anti-aircraft missiles with a maximum range of destruction of air targets up to 150 km.
It looks like it could work as a replacement for AK-630?
Ak-630 can also be in auto mode with no crew needed to operate it. It take very little space and provide very good CIWS capability.
Air burst 57mm shells would fill a box area with shrapnel rather more efficiently than with 30mm rounds and out to greater distances... the 57mm rounds could be fired intentionally with a spread so the fragments cover an enormous area... plus they could have guided shells as well as air burst ones...
And AK-630 has 100%?Modern nato missiles would make evasive manoeuvres in the engageement zone of this 57mm gun so it won't have a Pk of 100%.
There is no space for long missiles under the deck. That's a soviet design with no VLS in mind. UKSK takes away one gun and they still need a plateform to mount the VLS bc of the lenght of the mossiles.
When tracking the anti ship mossile the FCS will provide an "intercepting"point where to fire the 57mm airburst shell. But that shell will need some few second to travel there. So if the anti ship missile is in evasive manoeuvre mode (generally it starts 15km before the impact so it's te engagement zone of the 57mm gun) the gun will have hard time intercepting it.
You can see in this video from the game war thunder how it is harder to target a target that turns randomly than a target that goes straight. At greater distance it is worse.
I wouldn't be surprised if modern missile have a basic rwr against x band engagemebt radars and know when they are targeted to start manoeuvring.
For the last 2 or 3 km I would prefere to still have the ak630 than just a 57mm gun.
The AU-220M mount is new-gen tech being designed for new AD units for the modern army & replacing existing 30mm/missile units.
GarryB wrote:Air burst 57mm shells would fill a box area with shrapnel rather more efficiently than with 30mm rounds and out to greater distances... the 57mm rounds could be fired intentionally with a spread so the fragments cover an enormous area... plus they could have guided shells as well as air burst ones...
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Small calibre high rate of fire makes sense with larger objects like aircraft, but as the targets get smaller... like the end on view of an incoming missile then you have to fire a lot of shells to get a hit... pretty soon an airburst heavier shell starts to make more sense to improve hit probability.
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