US-Iran standoff 2019- #2

They didn't seem to come in very fast, but their accuracy appeared pretty damn good.

Today 10 Grad rockets hit Ain al-Assad base in Iraq .

a US contractor died of cardiac failure after rocket fire .

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1818956/middle-east

The launch vehicle

Interesting idea but perhaps a more affordable option would be to have the rockets in a trailer that can be towed to a location and detached and left behind so the truck section can be reused... you could even use a timer so that at a particular time it elevates to the specific angle and launches on its own...

To be expecially effective they need to make lots of them and have truck drivers leave empty trailers around the place to help build a camouflage...

Remember guys the bullshit propaganda? They sustained '0' casualties.

Remember guys the bullshit propaganda? They sustained '0' casualties

Unique in history that military professionals safe in bunkers were attacked by 11 ballistic missiles?

The trauma was not nothing of course, but when you consider what CIVILIANS... women and children and the elderly... watching B-52 bombers drop bomb after bomb after bomb on their towns and villages and cities and farms... you kinda think these people should get some perspective...

The people of Laos for instance are still dealing with the cluster munitions the US dropped there 40-50 years ago and they were not even at war with the US.

A real war crime that is ignored and forgotten... but not by the children of Laos who have to be careful where they play because these things still explode and kill and maim people even today and the US does nothing about it.

New underground "rocket city" captured on video in Iran



The Iran Press news Agency published a video of the new "rocket city" of the naval forces of the Islamic revolutionary guard Corps (IRGC). The report says that the Iranian military has received missile systems "with new operational capabilities and functions."

According to the publication, the "rocket city" presents cruise missiles and ballistic missile systems of various ranges, including those with increased power and flight range.

Among the new capabilities of the Iranian missile Arsenal are high-precision shooting from underwater, passive defense and launching mines at various distances, shooting at mobile targets. In addition, the equipment of the "city" allows you to conduct electronic warfare.

"This equipment was designed and manufactured by experienced Iranian specialists from the Ministry of defense, research companies, research departments of the IRGC and the IRGC naval forces," writes Iran Press.

https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en.e6eafbcc-604f9194-d539559a-74722d776562/https/rg.ru/2021/03/16/novyj-podzemnyj-raketnyj-gorod-sniali-na-video-v-irane.html

They should really disperse this stuff before someone drops a mass ordnance penetrator on their sole egg basket

Rookie mistake

That is just a storage bunker... it gives no indication of where it is and how the missiles are even deployed.

For all we know they might be launch into a harbour from a harbour wall from underwater to track out several hundred metres into the harbour before surfacing and launching cruise missiles...

PapaDragon wrote:
They should really disperse this stuff before someone drops a mass ordnance penetrator on their sole egg basket

Rookie mistake

What gives you any indication of that? There's no real information where it can be located, all we know it's somewhere in a bunker. Just look at Yemen, the Saudi's have the help of the US, UK, the rest of the GCC, Turkey and many others and they still can't seem to find where the Houthis store and launch their ballistic missiles before they attack. Yemen is a fraction of the size of Iran, so keep that in mind.

PapaDragon wrote:
They should really disperse this stuff before someone drops a mass ordnance penetrator on their sole egg basket

Rookie mistake

The full penetration depth of the MOP can be established from available data... Just dig 10 m deeper.

Shots fires. I repeat, shots fired

Come to think of it, are there any American heroes left? Certainly not in the stature of JFK or Henry Ford. The only contemporary heroes I can think of are despised by the establishment, like Snowden

@ Ahmedfire

These skirmishes are not militarily significant. Nor can they be significant. There can be no open hostilities. Since Iran lacks compatible forces with US. Nor has any detterence power against escalations.

The Iranian nation's greater struggle is political. Since power is held by a Liberal minority. And defence and social policy is atrophied. And weak. The Yanks will follow the same pattern. It is in their blood. They will wait for opportune moment. Social disturbance...... ( The Iranians it seems are already persecuting and killing each other or beating the fuck out of each other or generally making life miserable for each other ,  we are talking low hanging fruit.....) Then they will strike. Withdrawing only and when defeated or under heavy fire.

A lot of these "strikes" against the Yanks are symbolic and for domestic political consumption. Iran has been left weak and defenceless by it's compromised political structure. But the reality is hidden by propaganda.

Same old, same old.

Nitwit Yahoo is punching the drywall right now, and our resident emo-commie and our monetarist Balkan bootlicker aren't going to like this either.

Russia and Iran setup mission to secure supply shipments to Syria: media

This shit is getting embarrassing! They had the nerve to say Russian systems were the ones vulnerable to drones lol!      

holy crap - is it possible they were tracking it and chose not to kill?

if not, then perhaps the iranian assertion is correct: they could indeed take out an aircraft carrier....handful of suicide drones landing on the launch deck/stationary aircraft etc...other stand off drones firing missiles at the control tower and or missile launch platforms. good grief - surely they were tracking it??? isnt there a flotilla of support ships with one of those carriers, surely someone saw it????

Suspect they saw them... perhaps they thought they were American drones...

But shows how important air defence and situational awareness is in peacetime.

Very good analysis

https://ejmagnier.com/2021/04/29/why-zarif-blames-soleimani-for-the-governments-failure/

JohninMK wrote:Very good analysis

https://ejmagnier.com/2021/04/29/why-zarif-blames-soleimani-for-the-governments-failure/

This is what I believed was going on when General Soleimani was assassinated. Zarif the moron thought that the west would remove all sanctions, even under Trump but he should have known better but Zarif was/is a western stooge.

It is better for Iran to make deals/agreements with China and Russia. They already have one with China, they might to able to sign one with Russia.

Israel needs to check its privilege

That's what it all comes down to. It wants to continue to be unchallenged in the Middle East and have a divided crapshoot of a region with no other powers capable of challenging it or forming alliances. Other than fellow US vassals like Saudi Arabia which are laughable military threats.

But them declaring war would defeat the whole point as that's what they want to avoid. Iran gets a nuclear deal, and Israel will accept it, after however many outbursts and spasms.