nomadski wrote:A detailed account, by the looks of it. I think both Rome and Persian empires, that were long lasting , had rules regarding the way they governed. By allowing allied nations a great deal of autonomy, while allowing for economic taxation and public works and basically civilization building.
I sense a degree of bias by you towards the old Persians. As being somewhat brutish and violent. Keeping the empire together by military might. You may like to read the first declaration of human rights in the world by cyrus the great. Well before a time when emperor Nero or Caligula was undertaking bestiality and brutality.
But this form of bias is expected in a Euro-centric world. The European civilizations had as much owed to old Iranians ( not Persians, a name picked by Romans to describe Iranians or Aryans or Arrans, as we know ourselves).
For example I am surprised you did not object to : Gorgestan ! We call you in Iran, as Gorgi. The suffix istan, in farsi means place of. The Asian way, you may say of saying your name country ! Bad !
You may say. : Georgian. And say this is correct name. It is in English dictionary. The English suffix. Of Ian, means of the , or of. But there is no escape for Eurofile. In Persian, the suffix. Ye, also means of or, of the. Gorgiye, we say in Iran, to say he or she is of Georgia. But Iran came first, before English dictionary, and these place names were places that were of Iran. Or known to Iran.
The place name of town in English or ton, as in Wolverhampton, is also same in Persian as istan ( is-ton, ast - ton) Or is place of. Being Eurofile is a bad thing, blinds you to your heritage and history.No wonder criminal Trump want to bomb Iran cultural heritage. Modern day Caligula.
I am Italian, not Georgian. By the way, the name of Georgia in their own language is Sakartvelo (it should be something like land of the kartvelian). I thought the name Georgia was given them by the greeks, but maybe it was an hellenization of the Persian name.
Edit; as far as I know the name Georgia comes from the fact that they are very devoted to Saint George, to the point that many churches bear his name and a large part of children are given the name Giorgi.
And yes I am aware that the suffix -stan comes from Persian and means something like country (or "Land" in German).
I am not europhile, i love Roman and ancient greek history and culture and I am also aware that ethnically Iranians are closer to us than other groups in the middle east.
I do not have particular bias towards the Persian empire.
We had in history several skirmishes and battles against one or more of its iterations (like the Parthians), and one of them was a terrible defeat because of the idiocy of the general (proconsul) in charge (Crassus), that wanted to emulate the successes of Ceasar and Pompeus and get glory for himself. Caesar himself planned a long military campaign against the Parthians, but he was killed a couple of days before leaving Rome to do it.
Lastly, it is sometimes funny when you think at how your country is called in other languages. Italy is called almost the same in most languages that I have heard, except for Polish: Włochy.
P.S. sometimes history is a interesting and a bit sad. One of my favourite Roman General, Germanicus, was still very young when he commanded the army in Germany and got revenge for the defeat of Teutoburg. He was young and smart and victorious, and was loved all around the Roman state. He was to be Tiberius's successor, and some of his contemporaries were comparing him to Alexander.
Unfortunately he died very young (probably poisoned) while in Syria. His son (Caligula) and later his grandson (Nero) would later both become emperors, but they had not his skills and sanity. Too bad.
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