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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:56 pm

    1. That's a lie we are not considering leaving, The E-11 went down due to mechanical failure. There were no reports of missiles or fragments found period.
    FYI:
    https://news.antiwar.com/2020/02/13/esper-us-taliban-peace-deal-may-be-imminent/

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/gop-senators-rip-afghan-war-1-trillion-spent-and-we-cannot-show-any-progress

    If they could stay & defeat them after all these years, the Americans wouldn't be negotiating any peace deals. That plane could be brought down by EW means, just like the US stealth UAV a while ago. In any case, we only see unclassified/censored reports they allow the media to publish. It's preposterous that only 2 crew members were on it while on patrol, not on a ferry flight. Not many others r as stupid to accept this spin. Withdrawal from Iraq is also in the cards:
    https://news.antiwar.com/2020/02/14/pentagon-offers-iraq-a-partial-military-pullout/


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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:09 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    1. That's a lie we are not considering leaving, The E-11 went down due to mechanical failure. There were no reports of missiles or fragments found period.
    FYI:
    https://news.antiwar.com/2020/02/13/esper-us-taliban-peace-deal-may-be-imminent/

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/gop-senators-rip-afghan-war-1-trillion-spent-and-we-cannot-show-any-progress

    If they could stay & defeat them after all these years, the Americans wouldn't be negotiating any peace deals. That plane could be brought down by EW means, just like the US stealth UAV a while ago. In any case, we only see unclassified/censored reports they allow the media to publish. It's preposterous that only 2 crew members were on it while on patrol, not on a ferry flight. Not many others r as stupid to accept this spin. Withdrawal from Iraq is also in the cards:
    https://news.antiwar.com/2020/02/14/pentagon-offers-iraq-a-partial-military-pullout/

    Are you insane? the Taliban doesn't have the EW capabilities to bring down an E-11A.

    Nowhere in any deal was it agreed we are leaving or talked about. None of these articles you posted have to do with anything, Thet last articles also has no facts. Go to Iraq and see if it has any weight because we aren't pulling out any troops.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:17 am

    Iran could supply the EW means or use them from it's own territory, if not by its SF in Afghanistan.
    The articles must be read between the lines- the time of open ended presence there is coming to an end. Otherwise, many more of those troops will return in body bags:
    The Shiites are particularly angry over the killing of Soleimani and al-Muhandis, and the militia that al-Muhandis led has said that if the Iraqi government does not expel the American troops through negotiations, it will take matters in its own hands.
    https://www.juancole.com/2020/02/justification-whacking-soleimani.html


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    Post  GarryB on Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:15 am

    As usual a stupid move by the US backfires and makes their enemies much more powerful/motivated to deal with their interference...
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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:56 pm

    Unless this is a fabrication it looks like the US is facing up to face Iraqi demands for them to leave.


    Hilarious! US Tells Iraq Leaving Base Is a “Red Line” Told to leave the US acts as if it were the sovereign power over Ayn al-Asad rather than Iraq

    David Hearst8 hours ago 609 16

    You would think telling a foreign power to leave your soil only to be given a list of places it refuses to leave would be the red line

    The US military has offered senior Iraqi security officials plans for a partial pullback of troops from Iraq in response to January’s parliamentary vote calling for foreign forces to leave the country, Middle East Eye can reveal.

    A meeting between the two sides, held in great secrecy last week, heard that Washington was prepared “in principle” to discuss withdrawal. A representative of the US military told the Iraqis present that the United States was prepared to leave positions in or near Shia-majority areas, such as Balad Air Base, which is located 80km north of Baghdad and houses US trainers and contractors.

    Washington, the Iraqis were told, could even consider reducing its presence in Baghdad. “We are prepared to leave some of the Shia-majority areas, like the base in Balad. Maybe we could reduce our presence in Baghdad,” the military representative told his Iraqi counterparts, who understood from this that the US presence in the Iraqi capital would be reduced to guarding its embassy and the airport.

    However, the US side categorically ruled out withdrawing from their biggest air base in Iraq, and the indeed the whole Middle East, Ain al-Assad.

    The Anbar province base came under ballistic missile fire from Iran last month, in response to the US killing of the top Iranian commander, Major-General Qassem Soleimani, and Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the deputy head of the Hashd al-Shaabi paramilitary forces, at Baghdad airport.

    For the US side, Ain al-Assad was its “red line”. The representative said: “We cannot even start talking about withdrawing [from that base]. Withdrawal is out of the question.”

    Such was the sensitivity of these discussions that they were held well away from Iraq. The meeting took place in the private residence of the Canadian ambassador to Jordan in Amman, Middle East Eye was told. Present at the meeting was a representative of the US military, a Nato official and a senior Iraqi security adviser.

    Source: The Middle East Eye


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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:10 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    1. That's a lie we are not considering leaving,
    FYI:
    https://news.antiwar.com/2020/02/13/esper-us-taliban-peace-deal-may-be-imminent/


    Nowhere in any deal was it agreed we are leaving or talked about. None of these articles you posted have to do with anything, Thet last articles also has no facts. Go to Iraq and see if it has any weight because we aren't pulling out any troops.


    The United States has reached a reduction of violence agreement with the Taliban that could lead to a US troop withdrawal from Afghanistan, Reuters quoted a senior administration official as saying on Friday.

    The agreement for a seven-day “reduction in violence” to be followed by the start of all-Afghan peace talks within 10 days is “very specific” and covers the entire country including Afghan forces, AP reported.

    The developments come as US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Defense Secretary Mark Esper met Friday in Munich, Germany with Afghanistan’s President Ashraf Ghani. They spoke on the sidelines of an international security forum.
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    Post  Isos on Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:10 pm

    Iran won a battle !!


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    US forces are withdrawing from three of their eight bases in Iraq, including Al-Qaim near the Syrian border as well as Qayyarah and Kirkuk. Consolidation planned since last year but accelerated due to threat from Shia militias in the areas
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    Post  Isos on Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:28 pm

    This part was fake.

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    #BREAKING Head of the IRGC-backed Asa'ib Ahl Al-Haq militia, Qais Al-Khazali: Zero hour for the launching of the revenge operation of Soleimani and Abu Mahdi al-Muhandes is imminent



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    Upon information and belief, Iran or its proxies are planning a sneak attack on U.S. troops and/or assets in Iraq. If this happens, Iran will pay a very heavy price, indeed!
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:57 pm

    Beware of Trump Using the Coronavirus as a Cover for War With Iran
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:47 am

    Why would anyone expect Trump to do anything different from the way he has been acting... his backers have not changed... he has no morals or ethics or dignity... just more of the same... but still better than Hillary.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:38 am

    Iran drones "walk" in the area of ​​responsibility of American air defense

    US-Iran standoff 2019- #2 - Page 17 Bespilotniki-irana-gulyayut-v-zone-otvetstvennosti-amerikanskoi-pvo-msznpt3f-1586433061.t

    Iran received a full “picture” of the deployment of military equipment and missile defense / air defense systems at US bases located in the Middle East

    According to the information published on Twitter, the Iranian military using remote access learned how to crack the Patriot air defense and missile defense systems. To do this, reconnaissance drones were used, which broadcast radiation from electronic warfare systems, suppressing US radar stations.

    As evidence, Tehran published photographs showing how an Iranian UAV freely flies over the largest US military bases in neighboring Iraq and on the west coast of the Persian Gulf. At the same time, the Patriot air defense missile systems did not see him, although they were supposed to be detected when approaching a distance of 50 kilometers.

    The same situation was observed in the sky over Saudi Arabia, where Iranian drones removed everything that they wanted to see and at the same time were not detected by any air defense system.

    At the moment, it is not known how the Iranian military managed to achieve such success. However, according to experts, a significant role in this operation was played by the latest Russian electronic warfare systems delivered to Iran, which turned off the American air defense systems.

    https://vpk.name/news/392006_bespilotniki_irana_gulyayut_v_zone_otvetstvennosti_amerikanskoi_pvo.html
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    Post  George1 on Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:08 pm

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    Post  JohninMK on Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:11 pm


    Donald J. Trump
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    I have instructed the United States Navy to shoot down and destroy any and all Iranian gunboats if they harass our ships at sea.


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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:38 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Donald J. Trump
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    I have instructed the United States Navy to shoot down and destroy any and all Iranian gunboats if they harass our ships at sea.


    US-Iran standoff 2019- #2 - Page 17 EWNhz1GWsAEVdsu?format=jpg&name=small

    Meanwhile in reality:

    https://twitter.com/Brave_313/status/1252956927564316672
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    Post  kvs on Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:08 pm

    Discipline. lol1 bounce confused
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:14 am

    Easy to be in the internet laughing at guys on their knees with their hands on their heads, but if someone pointed a heavy machine gun at you... how tough does it make sense to act?
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:30 am

    Can an Iranian missile reach Washington? https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2930717.html
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    Post  JohninMK on Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:20 pm

    A brilliant photo that shows just how different the terrain is on either side of the Gulf. In particular how difficult an armed assault would be. Suicidal more like.

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    Post  kvs on Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:42 pm

    GarryB wrote:Easy to be in the internet laughing at guys on their knees with their hands on their heads, but if someone pointed a heavy machine gun at you... how tough does it make sense to act?

    How did armed US sailors get into the situation in the first place? If one is going to fight any sort of war (including pysops) against an opponent, then
    you need to be focused. This incident is not like Iranians engaging in piracy and grabbing civilian hostages. So the yanquis were using their human
    assets in the pursuit of some BS agenda and got busted. Cry me a river.
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    Post  kvs on Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:45 pm

    JohninMK wrote:A brilliant photo that shows just how different the terrain is on either side of the Gulf. In particular how difficult an armed assault would be. Suicidal more like.

    US-Iran standoff 2019- #2 - Page 17 EWxFl2BXYAInu99?format=png&name=large

    There will be no repeats of Iraq for a long while. Just like there was no equivalent in Syria even though Obama had big plans for his own ME adventure.

    But indeed the terrain makes easy picking off of tanks by Apaches a non-starter. Just like they flopped in Serbia in 1999.

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    Post  nomadski on Sat May 16, 2020 10:59 am

    https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/iran-news-agency-warns-over-u-s---piracy--against-fuel-shipment-to-venezuela/45764274

    I mentioned, a few weeks ago, as to strange event of USA stockpiling oil. Now with oil surplus in the world and yank not needing Saudi oil. Then they withdraw Patriot from Saudi. To see what they get. To get some more. Or is it that they withdraw from region. Maybe why they risk war in Caribbean. They may have no long term plans to stay in ME.


    https://youtu.be/a27YX-ToMM4

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    Post  kvs on Sat May 16, 2020 1:55 pm

    nomadski wrote:https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/iran-news-agency-warns-over-u-s---piracy--against-fuel-shipment-to-venezuela/45764274

    I mentioned, a few weeks ago, as to strange event of USA stockpiling oil. Now with oil surplus in the world and yank not needing Saudi oil. Then they withdraw Patriot from Saudi. To see what they get. To get some more. Or is it that they withdraw from region. Maybe why they risk war in Caribbean. They may have no long term plans to stay in ME.


    https://youtu.be/a27YX-ToMM4


    The storage volume is tiny compared to the import volume. The US normally imports over 9 million barrels per day. Assuming quick recovery
    of demand after Covid-19 which is highly likely, the salt mines and tankers anchored near US coasts will not be able to supply such a volume
    for any substantial period of time. US oil storage was never large, it is some sort of short period shortage mitigation effort.

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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:29 am

    From memory this is recovered from the sea.

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    Assembly of fragments of the American reconnaissance UAV RQ-4 Global Hawk, which was shot down by the IRGC air defense forces in June 2019.


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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:59 pm

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iran-negotiating-25-year-strategic-accord-china-zarif-says

    Makes a lot of sense!
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:14 am

    Iran could become a protectorate of China
    https://www.rosbalt.ru/world/2020/07/22/1854891.html

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