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    Post  Kiko Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:54 am

    Vaccine tourism can radically change the image of Russia abroad
    13 April 2021

    Russia, as it turns out, is capable of offering the world yet another - and very important - tourist service. Already, foreign travel agencies are accepting applications from those wishing to come to our country for the vaccination against coronavirus. “The potential demand is very high,” experts say. And the very possibility of such a trip can play a very important role in terms of the image of our country abroad.

    Modern society knows many types of different tourism. Beach, sports, sex tourism, alcohol tourism. Finally, there is medical tourism, when residents of countries with expensive (or poor-quality) health services travel to places where medicine is better or cheaper. Thus, Russians go to Turkey for hair transplant operations, and to Armenia for dental services.

    And recently, against the backdrop of the raging coronavirus epidemic, medical tourism received its new type - vaccine. When residents of regions, for one reason or another, deprived of the vaccine, go to get vaccinated where there is a vaccine. Not for the sake of rest, but simply because they want to live - both figuratively (without any restrictions and quarantines) and in the literal sense.

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    Vaccine tourism is already common in the United States. Hundreds of thousands of people in some states, where they have to stand in long queues for vaccines, travel or even fly to where they can get vaccinated much faster. From California, for example, to Florida.

    A number of journalists and experts accuse these tourists of only spreading the epidemic and causing chaos in the vaccination process - however, local authorities are only glad to see "vaccine" guests, especially when it comes to poor rural towns. After all, the guests bring money, invest it in the local economy - a vaccine tourist is a tourist anyway. Of course, the owners of cafes and hotels are especially pleased.

    In other countries, where there is no mass vaccination or it is taking place slowly, enterprising citizens also decided to make money on vaccine tourism to other countries - those in which there is no shortage of vaccines. And first of all to Russia, which produces one of the most famous, safe vaccines in the world "Sputnik V", as well as two less promoted, but also good drugs ("EpiVacCorona" and "KoviVac").

    So, one of the Turkish agencies offers a vaccine tour costing 1099 euros (plus 220 dollars for visa costs if the client needs a visa). As part of this tour, the client receives two round-trip tickets on the Istanbul - Moscow route (for the first and second vaccinations in one of the capital's clinics, with a 24-hour stay in the city after each vaccination in case of side effects), as well as a certain “ vaccination certificate ". In addition, there is a tour of the Kremlin, historical metro stations and a visit to the grave of the Turkish poet Nazim Hikmet, who was buried at the Novodevichy cemetery. Several Turks, as well as a Jordanian and an Italian, have allegedly taken advantage of the company's offer.

    Vaccine tours are also offered by German companies - however, not two round trip trips, but with a stay in Moscow during an "intervaccination" period of three weeks. Such a tour costs almost three thousand euros.

    However, it is not yet fully understood how clients will arrive in Moscow. Communication with Turkey has already been temporarily suspended, with a number of other countries it is not open. Perhaps we will talk about flights through third countries (for example, Belarus) and vaccinations in the transit hall of the airport. However, will the same Turkish citizens who have experienced a real jump in the number of sick people in their homeland even be allowed there? Not to mention the fact that the domestic Ministry of Health and the Ministry of Internal Affairs are unlikely to react positively to the idea of ​​mass vaccination at airports.

    There is another problem - with official vaccination, a person in Russia is asked for a passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation and a policy of compulsory medical insurance (MHI). Therefore, only citizens of the Russian Federation who are now living abroad will take root in Russia without problems.

    One of the Russian companies has already launched such a "vaccine tourism" program for compatriots from foreign countries. The cost is 700 euros (two trips for three days) or 1500 euros (one tour for 21 days). Since you can only have a residence permit in the Russian Federation for vaccination, agencies from neighboring countries, for example, Moldova, have also taken up vaccine tourism. For residents of this country, the trip will cost 1200 euros.

    Of course, some foreigners manage to deceive the doctors - but this is still a risk that they would not want to receive on a tour that costs one thousand euros. You can, of course, go to a paid clinic - but this is an even greater risk. Moreover, both for the client (who can be injected with a placebo) and for the tour operators themselves (if the client finds out that the cost of the injection is only a few thousand rubles).

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    However, the more countries with which Russia will begin to resume air traffic, the more organizers of "vaccine tours" will be. And so the tours themselves will be more accessible.

    But the question is - why should any foreigners benefit from this? It may seem strange that the process of vaccination of foreigners is not organized in Russia at the state level in order to make it as much as possible in line with Russian interests. There are many who wish to come. “Every day we receive inquiries from almost all of our partners. The potential demand is very high - from India to European countries, ”Intourist told reporters.

    A number of Russian officials and politicians, however, are skeptical about this idea. Initially, the same Ministry of Health stated that all state efforts should be focused primarily on vaccinating Russians. State Duma deputies agree with doctors. "In no case should it happen that we provide a vaccine to foreign citizens for a fee, and the Russians do not have the opportunity to get it," says Nikolai Govorin, Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Health Protection Committee.

    Some representatives of the tourism industry also say that mass vaccine tourism to Russia for foreigners is a matter of the near future, but still. “For tourist groups, such a service is not yet possible, and, probably, after the vaccination of Russia, when it will take place in a larger volume, it will be possible to return to this topic,” explains Dmitry Gorin, vice president of the Association of Tour Operators of Russia.

    However, one does not interfere with the other. Vaccinations of compatriots are going according to plan, there is no rush demand, queues and stampedes a la "the beginning of sales of a new iPhone" anywhere. The number of infected continues to decline, and there is no talk at all about measures to tighten quarantine (which would be an incentive for people to flee to get vaccinated).

    On the other hand, vaccine tourism would be a tremendous help for Russia. And it's not just about the money received for the vaccine, air ticket and hotel, but about the country's image.

    Yes, the conditional "Turkish version" (arrived, received the first dose of the vaccine, flew away in a day, arrived in three weeks, received the second dose, flew away, forgot about Russia) is not so profitable, but the "German" - with a three-week stay in the country - provides a number of possibilities. Patients will need to do something between injections. Accordingly, a properly organized cultural program can lead to patients leaving Russia not only with the vaccine, but also with a positive impression of the country they visited. An impression that they will not only share with their friends, but also that will protect their brains from Western Russophobic propaganda.

    As a result, after weighing all the pros and cons, the Russian authorities, apparently, decided to get involved in the process. According to the official Twitter account of Sputnik V, an official vaccine tourism program will start in July - foreigners will be brought to Russia and vaccinated. And the foreigners are already inspired. “Thank Russia for taking care of us - the poor hostages of the rules of the European Union, which itself is held hostage by Big Pharma,” one of the commentators wrote under the post. Others, without further ado, simply write phrases from the "I want" series.

    And it would be very nice if their desires were not beaten off by some sky-high prices for the trip or bureaucratic delays. Here, the main income will not come from the cost of the trip, but from the monetization of its consequences. Russia already has a positive experience in attracting foreign guests (2014 Olympics, 2018 FIFA World Cup), which has destroyed many negative stereotypes of foreigners about Russia. At that time, the guests were not only actually introduced visa-free for the duration of the events, but were also allowed for some time after that to freely visit the country without obtaining a visa. Can we repeat?

    Text: Gevorg Mirzayan

    https://m.vz.ru/world/2021/4/13/1093368.html
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    Post  calripson Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:58 am

    Only about 5% of the Russian population has voluntarily taken the Sputnik vaccine. Does this reflect a total disregard for Covid, a fear of vaccines undoubtedly reinforced by western propaganda, or a distrust in the Russian government?
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    Post  GarryB Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:04 pm

    Seems to be closer to 10-12% but still very low... probably a combination of all sorts of reasons.

    They are Russian and expect to be lied to by politicians... unlike the gullible west... yet there is demand in the west for Sputnik V ironically... it seems to be the best performing vaccine of them all in terms of protection and reduced side effects.

    https://gogov.ru/articles/covid-v-stats
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    Post  LMFS Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:59 pm

    If the level of infections and deaths is not terrible, there are no lock downs and not vaccine passports are threatened, plus wary people are not necessarily willing to inject anything into their bodies, less before seeing what the real effects are, it can be logical that they are not hurrying up too much. Better so, we can take a plane and get vaccinated there with the extra jabs they are not using What a Face

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    Post  GarryB Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:34 am

    I think as more people get vaccinated and don't die from it, they will tell friends and relatives and hopefully demand will build up because the more people vaccinated the safer everyone will be.

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    Post  kvs Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:49 am

    calripson wrote:Only about 5% of the Russian population has voluntarily taken the Sputnik vaccine. Does this reflect a total disregard for Covid, a fear of vaccines undoubtedly reinforced by western propaganda, or a distrust in the Russian government?

    This number is related to the production capacity limits. The volume of Sputnik V doses is only now starting to ramp up.

    https://sputniknews.com/russia/202012241081559609-russia-to-increase-sputnik-v-vaccine-output-to-30mln-doses-by-june-industry-minister-says/

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    Post  owais.usmani Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:52 am

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/russia/

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:03 am


    Fecal stalactite worshippers don't want to have government 5G network Jewish tracking device injected into them by vaccines

    They all rather choose death

    Such dedication

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    Post  kvs Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:21 am

    People are not paying attention. Covid-19 will progress through the whole population regardless of vaccination. Vaccination will
    just spare those that got it and are at risk from dying from actually dying. Lockdowns will only delay the spread of the disease through
    the population. They are not total quarantine and cannot stop the spread of the disease. Total quarantine may be possible on some
    small island, but not the rest of the world.

    More cases means a faster convergence to equilibrium. Those that think Sputnik V is a bigger threat than Covid-19 are free to dig
    their own graves. But this applies to geriatrics. People under the age of 50 who do not vaccinate have a very small chance of dying
    from Covid-19.

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    Post  Hole Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:16 am

    Keep in mind that Russia is some 2 month behind western states. We had our 3. wave, now she hits Russia. Without draconian measures like in western countries the vaccination campaign was doomed to be slow.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:15 pm

    The vaccination programme here in NZ has barely started too... only frontline health workers and high risk people are vaccinated... the oldies are not going to start to get vaccinated till the end of next month...
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    Post  kvs Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:38 pm

    GarryB wrote:The vaccination programme here in NZ has barely started too... only frontline health workers and high risk people are vaccinated... the oldies are not going to start to get vaccinated till the end of next month...

    That's surprising. I guess we have the "end of the supply chain" effect where everybody upstream grabs what they can and the vaccine supply in New Zealand is
    in deficit. In Canada we started from the oldest and medical workers and progressed to under 20 years of age already.

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    Post  lancelot Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:27 pm

    Probably New Zealand isn't in as much of a hurry because they managed to contain COVID.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:51 am

    I just had my normal flu jab, which I have every year... normally have that a couple of months ago inn march or april but late this year.

    Still have to wear a mask on buses, but no other restrictions at all really... things have been pretty normal, we only see Covid stuff on TV now.

    I wont be eligible to get a covid jab till about August.

    Being at the arse end of the world it was just a case of controlling people getting off planes from other countries... we don't get a lot of ship travel, so it was easier to contain and most people did as they were told so everything went pretty well really.

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    Post  kvs Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:06 am

    New Zealand was smart. Canada, the USA, UK, etc. are run by idiots who never bothered to restrict air travel when it mattered.
    Even with the Indian variant we had months of no restrictions of people from India. What's the point of the lockdowns...

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    Post  ChineseTiger Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:10 am

    Russia's covid situation getting really bad. Easily the biggest hot spot in the world, worse than any other country in terms of per capita, especially in the number of deaths.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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    Post  ChineseTiger Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:17 am

    kvs wrote:People are not paying attention.   Covid-19 will progress through the whole population regardless of vaccination.   Vaccination will
    just spare those that got it and are at risk from dying from actually dying.    Lockdowns will only delay the spread of the disease through
    the population.   They are not total quarantine and cannot stop the spread of the disease.   Total quarantine may be possible on some
    small island, but not the rest of the world.

    More cases means a faster convergence to equilibrium.   Those that think Sputnik V is a bigger threat than Covid-19 are free to dig
    their own graves.   But this applies to geriatrics.   People under the age of 50 who do not vaccinate have a very small chance of dying
    from Covid-19.


    They say after Soviet dictatorship rule Russians don't trust government anymore so they don't take vaccine. I guess, in a sense, Russians can blame their own government for not approving CanSino vaccine despite very effective trial in Russia simply due to blind nationalism. The Russian deaths will speak for themselves. Putin's rule is in jeopardy if he cannot bring the covid situation under control, and he only has himself to blame for it.
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    Post  lancelot Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:32 am

    ChineseTiger wrote:They say after Soviet dictatorship rule Russians don't trust government anymore so they don't take vaccine. I guess, in a sense, Russians can blame their own government for not approving CanSino vaccine despite very effective trial in Russia simply due to blind nationalism. The Russian deaths will speak for themselves. Putin's rule is in jeopardy if he cannot bring the covid situation under control, and he only has himself to blame for it.

    I doubt it was just nationalism. It was probably to save money and foreign currency. Russia also needs to have its own medicine industry to prevent from shortages in case of sanctions and purchasing abroad wouldn't help build capacity in Russia. CanSino could have been used to replace the second dose since it uses same adenovirus vector. Russian industry has had issues with manufacture of second dose of Sputnik V in numbers. But there have been no issues with manufacture of first dose. I doubt they expected to have issues with second dose manufacture.
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    Post  Hole Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:47 am

    No, it is not his fault. Or that of the russian state. The state build new hospitals, produced prtective gear and developed vaccines. Military and EMERCOM were send to hot spots. If some dushback doesn´t want to wear a mask or doesn´t want to be vaccinated it is his or her fault.

    There are still people smoking or drinking to much. And no state is forcing them to stop it even if millions of them die every year after blocking hundreds of thousands of clinic beds. It is your own responsibility.

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:56 am

    ChineseTiger wrote:Russia's covid situation getting really bad. Easily the biggest hot spot in the world, worse than any other country in terms of per capita, especially in the number of deaths.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    The heck are you talking about you asinine troll?

    Even just from a cursory look at the data, the situation in Brazil, Argentina and Columbia is way worse per capita

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    Post  Hole Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:26 pm

    Or the 60.000 new cases per day in Indonesia.
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    Post  ChineseTiger Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:12 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    ChineseTiger wrote:Russia's covid situation getting really bad. Easily the biggest hot spot in the world, worse than any other country in terms of per capita, especially in the number of deaths.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    The heck are you talking about you asinine troll?

    Even just from a cursory look at the data, the situation in Brazil, Argentina and Columbia is way worse per capita

    Perhaps, but Russia is the worst performing non 3rd world country in terms of per capita covid cases and deaths.
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    Post  flamming_python Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:28 pm

    ChineseTiger wrote:

    Perhaps, but Russia is the worst performing non 3rd world country in terms of per capita covid cases and deaths.

    No it's not, not by a mile

    Just taking France, it has nearly twice that of Russia's deaths per capita, and has had more cases than it in absolute terms too, even despite the smaller population.

    In fact most countries in Europe had more cases and deaths per capita than Russia

    Of course Russia under-reports its deaths, by up to 60%, but then everyone does to various degrees so it's impossible to tell anyway.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Jul 02, 2021 10:51 pm

    Americas deaths are 5 times bigger and it is a hyper power...
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    Post  Kiko Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:01 am

    EMA Says Pfizer, Moderna COVID-19 Vaccines Potentially Linked to Heart Inflammation, 09.07.2021

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) - The European Medicines Agency’s (EMA) safety committee on 9 July warned that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines produced by Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna could be linked to 321 cases of rare heart inflammation.

    In a press release, the EMA said that it had reviewed 164 cases of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and 157 cases of pericarditis (inflammation of the heart’s outer lining), linked to the two mRNA vaccines. Symptoms of both conditions include breathlessness, chest pain, and heart palpitations.

    EMA’s safety committee said that 145 cases of myocarditis were observed in individuals who received the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine and a further 19 among people who received Moderna’s vaccine.

    Additionally, 138 cases of pericarditis were observed following the use of Pfizer/BioNTech’s vaccine, along with 19 cases seen following vaccination with the Moderna vaccine.

    "The Committee is therefore recommending listing myocarditis and pericarditis as new side effects in the product information for these vaccines, together with a warning to raise awareness among healthcare professionals and people taking these vaccines,” a press release read.

    In total, 177 million doses of Pfizer/BioNTech’s COVID-19 vaccine and 20 million doses of Moderna’s vaccine were administered in the European Economic Area as of 31 May.

    https://sputniknews.com/europe/202107091083349364-ema-says-pfizer-moderna-covid-19-vaccines-potentially-linked-to-heart-inflammation/

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