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    Post  GarryB Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:56 am

    What a disgrace. They are all so afraid of getting infected even though they are less than 50 years on average.

    True, but there are cases of this happening in the US and also in several countries in civilised Europe too where no hospital will take on Covid infected patients...

    The only difference of course being RT is not hiding such things...
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    Post  Scorpius Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:18 pm

    In Makhachkala, on the territory of the Dagestan State Medical University, a monument was erected to doctors who died in the fight against COVID-19.
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    The inscription on the stella on the left: Dedicated to the medical workers of Dagestan who gave their lives in the fight against the coronavirus infection Covid-2019

    The inscription on the stella on the right: "The profession of a doctor is a feat, it requires self-sacrifice, purity of soul, purity of thoughts..." Anton Pavlovich Chekhov.

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    Post  par far Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:31 pm

    Is this a Hybrid war against Russia? How dangerous is this H5N8? It has been around, so there probably is a vaccine or treatment.



    https://www.rt.com/russia/516163-health-watchdog-new-bird-flu/

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:07 pm


    What's up with this?

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    Post  kvs Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:31 pm

    "The Institute of Health Metrics and Evaluation".

    lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:39 am

    kvs wrote:"The Institute of Health Metrics and Evaluation".

    lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1

    Quick google check: The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation is a research institute working in the area of global health statistics and impact evaluation at the University of Washington in Seattle.
    Founder: Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation

    Agreed. What a complete wank...

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    Post  elconquistador Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:50 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    kvs wrote:"The Institute of Health Metrics and Evaluation".

    lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1

    Quick google check:  The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation is a research institute working in the area of global health statistics and impact evaluation at the University of Washington in Seattle.
    Founder: Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation

    Agreed.  What a complete wank...

    Good find.

    That slimy autistic POS really is everywhere

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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:53 am

    There may actually be a smart explanation.

    Quite a few years ago, Russia had a breakthrough in HIV research. They were injecting mothers expecting, whom were HIV positive, that their offspring would also be HIV positive but the child isn't affected by it. Most antiviral drugs were to prevent the child from having it but there was a lot of mothers to be who wouldn't take the drugs this resulting in their child being infected. This other results in being apparently HIV positive but not.

    I'm not entirely sure about the whole thing but Russia does have a problem. Issue is, the reporting is bullshit cause they don't have any sources to back up their information. Russia being worst in HIV positive cases vs sub sahara is bullshit. Only reason why it may be a lot more is simply cause the child will survive in Russia while it would not in the other regions where healthcare doesn't exist.

    And personally, I don't blame Russia's government for being less than willing to help the 2M or so people infected with HIV/AIDS. These people did it to themselves since around 98% of infections are due to drug use.

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    Post  kvs Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:55 am

    elconquistador wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:
    kvs wrote:"The Institute of Health Metrics and Evaluation".

    lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1

    Quick google check:  The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation is a research institute working in the area of global health statistics and impact evaluation at the University of Washington in Seattle.
    Founder: Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation

    Agreed.  What a complete wank...

    Good find.

    That slimy autistic POS really is everywhere

    His legacy of the crap known as Windows is clearly not substantial enough. He needs to screw everyone over on deeper level, hence the obsession
    with food and medicine.

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    Post  kvs Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:00 am

    miketheterrible wrote:There may actually be a smart explanation.

    Quite a few years ago, Russia had a breakthrough in HIV research.  They were injecting mothers expecting, whom were HIV positive, that their offspring would also be HIV positive but the child isn't affected by it.  Most antiviral drugs were to prevent the child from having it but there was a lot of mothers to be who wouldn't take the drugs this resulting in their child being infected. This other results in being apparently HIV positive but not.

    I'm not entirely sure about the whole thing but Russia does have a problem.  Issue is, the reporting is bullshit cause they don't have any sources to back up their information.  Russia being worst in HIV positive cases vs sub sahara is bullshit.  Only reason why it may be a lot more is simply cause the child will survive in Russia while it would not in the other regions where healthcare doesn't exist.

    And personally, I don't blame Russia's government for being less than willing to help the 2M or so people infected with HIV/AIDS.  These people did it to themselves since around 98% of infections are due to drug use.

    We covered this BS here already more than once. Every few years assorted clowns come out of the woodwork to claim that Russia has
    a snowballing HIV problem (more of the "sky is falling" and "Russia = fail" drivel). This BS is clearly politically motivated and an attempt
    to scare Russians into supporting western approved maggots like Navalny "because Putin is not saving them from HIV". The problem
    with this rubbish is that if any of it were true, the numbers over the last 20 years would show it. But instead, there is a reset and
    claimed expected acceleration of cases. In other words, we have total fabrication.

    There is no particular feature of Russian society that would propagate HIV faster than in the west. Canada has plenty of prostitutes
    and drug users but you never hear about any looming catastrophe.

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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:06 am

    What are the numbers then?
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    Post  kvs Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:10 am

    https://rosinfostat.ru/vich/

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    The blue-dot line are annual new cases.   The brown line is the total cumulative cases and the grey line is the total deaths.

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    The left-most column are the new cases.   They peaked in 2016.   But the 5th column has been claiming since the 1990s
    that there is a catastrophic acceleration in new cases every year.

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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:15 am

    I wonder if the new drug then posted last year will start to be massed produced anytime soon? This would help immensely.
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    Post  elconquistador Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:17 am

    So which column is the current number of HIV infected people in Russia?
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    Post  lyle6 Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:30 am

    elconquistador wrote:So which column is the current number of HIV infected people in Russia?

    The rightmost. First column is new cases, followed by total cumulative infected, then total cumulative deaths, and lastly as I've mentioned the current infected.
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    Post  kvs Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:43 am

    elconquistador wrote:So which column is the current number of HIV infected people in Russia?

    The right-most column. But the numbers are wrong for 2018 and 2019. I have dredged through other sources and various media
    reports which say that as of the end of 2020 the number living with HIV is 1.1 million. Also, probably thanks to Covid-19 restrictions
    the infection rate dropped even more in 2020.

    https://ria.ru/20210201/vich-1595529689.html

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    Post  elconquistador Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:07 am

    lyle6 wrote:
    elconquistador wrote:So which column is the current number of HIV infected people in Russia?

    The rightmost. First column is new cases, followed by total cumulative infected, then total cumulative deaths, and lastly as I've mentioned the current infected.

    That's why I asked. These numbers don't add up
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    Post  kvs Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:59 pm

    An important aspect to the HIV spread in Russia is that it is not uniform throughout the country and has hot spots. Some of them in
    Siberia. But given the size of the infected population and the progression up until now, it really does look like the all time peak was
    in 2016. This means that there will be a decline in the total infected population in a few years when the new cases balance mortality.

    It is true that Russia's HIV infection rate is high, but it is false that it is snowballing.

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    Post  franco Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:18 pm

    kvs wrote:An important aspect to the HIV spread in Russia is that it is not uniform throughout the country and has hot spots.   Some of them in
    Siberia.   But given the size of the infected population and the progression up until now, it really does look like the all time peak was
    in 2016.   This means that there will be a decline in the total infected population in a few years when the new cases balance mortality.

    It is true that Russia's HIV infection rate is high, but it is false that it is snowballing.


    Noticed at years end while doing some research on Covid that there is over 40,000,000 people in the world with Aids/HIV and that around 1.7 million were projected to have died in 2020. Pretty much the same amount to have died from Covid, however as most are in Africa not much is mentioned here in the West.

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    Post  Hole Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:51 pm

    This is going on for 30 years now, which means between 30 and 40 million dead people. COVID has a long way to go to reach this figure.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:48 am

    The blue-dot line are annual new cases. The brown line is the total cumulative cases and the grey line is the total deaths.

    The new cases has stabilised and not increasing, and according to that chart is probably 8-9 thousand, while numbers dying from the disease is increasing and is over 35,000... that is a net loss of 25 thousand... why is the numbers infected shown to be going up?

    With slow growth of new infections and increase in deaths of infected people the number currently infected should be decreasing, not increasing.



    ... bad chart.

    Ahh... the Brown line shows everyone who has ever had HIV in Russia so it will only get bigger and indicates to total number of Russians who have ever had HIV alive or dead. The Yellow line shows those living with HIV, and the Blue line is newly registered as infected, while the gray line is the number who died of HIV.

    This makes the Brown line irrelevant to Russia at the moment, the yellow line presumably is estimated because it should move at the same rate of the blue line showing new infections and it clearly does not.

    The lethality rate is increasing, which I find suspect because as the lethality rate increases the number of people living with HIV should decrease if new cases are relatively stable, but they don't on this chart.

    The brown line is largely meaningless in this case, but it should be increasing at the same rate as the blue line which it does not.
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    Post  lancelot Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:16 pm

    If the problem with HIV spread is indeed drug addicts sharing needles that can be mitigated with a program where the state sponsors the exchange of discardable needles at no cost in pharmacies. This has been done in several western countries and it seems to curb HIV spread quite decently. The preventative costs are so low it is better than having to pay for the care of these people or the ones they would infect.

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    Post  kvs Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:49 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    The blue-dot line are annual new cases.   The brown line is the total cumulative cases and the grey line is the total deaths.

    The new cases has stabilised and not increasing, and according to that chart is probably 8-9 thousand, while numbers dying from the disease is increasing and is over 35,000... that is a net loss of 25 thousand... why is the numbers infected shown to be going up?

    With slow growth of new infections and increase in deaths of infected people the number currently infected should be decreasing, not increasing.



    ... bad chart.

    Ahh... the Brown line shows everyone who has ever had HIV in Russia so it will only get bigger and indicates to total number of Russians who have ever had HIV alive or dead. The Yellow line shows those living with HIV, and the Blue line is newly registered as infected, while the gray line is the number who died of HIV.

    This makes the Brown line irrelevant to Russia at the moment, the yellow line presumably is estimated because it should move at the same rate of the blue line showing new infections and it clearly does not.

    The lethality rate is increasing, which I find suspect because as the lethality rate increases the number of people living with HIV should decrease if new cases are relatively stable, but they don't on this chart.

    The brown line is largely meaningless in this case, but it should be increasing at the same rate as the blue line which it does not.

    The scale on the graph is very large. So new cases every year are over 80,000. This is reflected in the table. The all time peak appears
    to be 103,438 in 2016. The number in 2020 was somewhere around 70,000.

    The yellow line is the total number living with HIV and reflects both deaths and new cases. So it does not have to mirror the blue line
    as the number of deaths and new cases are not the same every year. There has been a trend to less deaths which is hard to infer
    from the table and figure, but is noted in the various articles I found.

    The yellow line is consistent with the 1.1 million with HIV population for 2020.

    I think the data for the 1990s is BS. It looks like there was vastly less cases than in the 2000s, but that does not make any sense since
    it was under Yeltsin that drug use and prostitution exploded. It also would coincide with the global spread of AIDS during the 1980s.
    Putin has had to deal with Yeltsin's rotten legacy from day one. The figures for HIV "under his regime" are not his "fail" but a reflection
    of better statistics.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:41 am

    The scale on the graph is very large.

    Oops, you are right... I missed a zero...

    The yellow line is the total number living with HIV and reflects both deaths and new cases.

    If the yellow line shows those living with HIV then the blue line should be added to it as new cases, but the grey line should be deducted as they are dead and are no longer living with HIV any more.

    It should be the Brown line that does not have the grey line deducted and teh blue line added to show the total people who have had it so far.

    As new people get the disease they remain counted in the yellow line until they are dead, while with the brown line the dead are included as people who have had HIV.

    As I said, the chart does not make sense because the brown line should increase with the area under the blue line being added every year, but the yellow line should add the blue volume but deduct the grey area because they are dead and not living with HIV any more.

    I think the data for the 1990s is BS.

    The data from the 1990s is clearly bullshit, but the whole chart looks suspect... when you have a disease that kills three to four times faster than it spreads... 80K new cases, compared with about 350K deaths per year supposedly at the moment... three times more than Covid... but Covid has just been a year and a bit.

    If the problem with HIV spread is indeed drug addicts sharing needles that can be mitigated with a program where the state sponsors the exchange of discardable needles at no cost in pharmacies. This has been done in several western countries and it seems to curb HIV spread quite decently. The preventative costs are so low it is better than having to pay for the care of these people or the ones they would infect.

    That is the European way... how about the Asian way. Execute drug dealers, and maybe intercept drugs and put in additives like chemical castration drugs...
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    Post  kvs Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:18 am

    The death rate is not annual but cumulative in the table and the graph so the number of deaths in 2019 was 25,865.
    They should have compiled the data in annual increments and not cumulatively.


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