coat of arms of SAF
The symbols of the Army used on dress uniforms (left side) and camouflage uniforms (right side)
Turk1 wrote:What is with the White Eagles? You have white eagles in Serbia?
Vladislav wrote:You have any videos?
First thing first...Our opposition is not up to task to make a change right now but we'll see what future will bring.Aleksandar_Nevski wrote:Pozdrav Jelena! XD
Well I just have to say new insignia is fine, but its worth for nothing when our president and the rest of the scum in power have litteraly destroyed our military! We need to recover fast...if we sucseed in taking the matter to our hands I hope that the first move will be to buy one or 2 S-300 PMU2 "Favorit" missle systems...wich would momentally place us as a dominant force in the region...while we are still strong and have good soldiers, our air deffence and aviation is pathetic and is our main flaw...if we had at least one S-300 during 1999...there would be a different end to that war!
Further, as a fresh news Russia will grant Serbia a EUR 1 billion loan.
Serbia economy to shrink beyond IMF guess
Jul 22, 2009
Serbia’s recession-hit economy will shrink by up to 5 percent this year, far exceeding estimates by the International Monetary Fund, the country’s finance minister said Wednesday.
Diana Dragutinovic said the government estimates output will fall between 3.5 and 5 percent this year. When it granted a euro3-billion ($4.2 billion) loan in March, the IMF had estimated that Serbia’s economic growth would contract by 2 percent in 2009.
The figures released by Dragutinovic indicate the country might need to ask the IMF for more money or resort to more austerity measures such as an increase in value-added tax — currently 18 percent — on all goods.
That would be highly unpopular and could worsen inflation, currently around 8 percent annually.
I'm not sure how we're going to pull out of that mess but keep that in mind when talking about purchasing any kind of missile systems or weaponry.
Russia will grant Serbia a EUR 1 billion loan, as informed by Russian ambassador to Belgrade Alexander Konuzin. Russia is currently reviewing the conditions of the credit financing.
Serbia has asked EUR 1 billion from Russia for the stabilization of the budget, construction of an underground railway system and other structural projects. Konuzin informs that Russia has agreed to grant the loan, but still have to arrange the conditions.
And by a system I mean command vehicle with the aquisitiion radar and 8 batteries, of wich every battery would consist of 8 launchers (four missiles), one illumination and guidance radar and one all-altitude radar...that would make us a serious threat to any country in our soroundings even those who are NATO members!
In its concept and applied technical solutions, the vehicle
is particularly adapted for use by modern infantry units and
special forces engaged in missions within anti-terrorist and
peacekeeping operations, with emphasis on engagements in
urban conditions, settlements and on intersected terrains,
in environments involving ambushes, antitank mines and
improvised explosive devices set up by an adversary.
The concept of this vehicle practically represents an
advanced MRAP, featuring certain properties (mobility, terrain
negotiating capability and fire power) of MRAV class
combat vehicle, this combining main characteristics of both,
nowadays highly important classes of wheeled armored vehicles.
When designing the concept of the vehicle, special emphasis
was placed on achievement of high mobility, system of
armor protection, armament system, ability to transport 10
infantrymen who should be able to quickly embark or evacuate
the vehicle using tail gate.
High level of armor protection was achieved by adopting
of steel armor hull that, in its basic version, includes ballistic
glass panes and provides protection that meets STANAG
4569, level III+ (protection against 12.7x107 mm B-32 API
round fired from 100 m) at front and level II at the sides and
rear. By fitting add-on armor of laminated composite structure,
attached on basic armor, vehicle ballistic protection is
rated level V at front and level IV at all other sides. Armored
hull design allows quick fitting and replacement of add-on
armor sections by vehicle crew, which, when fitted, do not
degrade basic functions of the vehicle.
Optionally, fitting of reactive explosive armor attached to
add-on armor will provide effective protection against infantry
hand launchers of RPG-7 type which nowadays represent
main threat in already mentioned type of warfare.
Hull bottom is V-shaped that, in addition to high ground
clearance and solid drive train, ensures very high level of
protection from antitank mine and IED, according to level
IIIa (resistant against blasts of AT mine or IED containing
6kg of HE occurring under vehicle wheels and floor)
Vehicle armament system is situated in the area between
drivers and commanders compartment and area that
accommodates embarked troops. Concept of the vehicle
allows incorporation of a variety of turrets, cupolas and
weapon stations, depending on main application of the vehicle
and planned budget of the user.
Simplest armament consists of partially armored modular
cupola M06 with detachable mounts, able to support the
following weapon alternatives:
- machine gun cal. 7.62 x 54 mm M86 with electric trigger,
- machine gun cal.. 12.7 x 108 mm,
- automatic grenade launcher cal. 30 mm.
- cannon M55 (HS 804) cal. 20 x 110 mm
Existing functional model, as illustrated, mounts lightodbrambene
weight cupola LK08 armed with cannon cal. 20 x 110 mm
M55 (HS804), with belt feeding, and machine gun cal. 7.62
x 54 mm M86.
The concept permits installation of different weapon stations
equipped with optoelectronic fire control system and
an integrated weapons system that may consists of a combination
the following weapon alternatives:
Cannon cal. 20 mm M55
Cannon cal. 30 mm M86
Wire-guided AT missile system Malutka 2 with twin
Machine gun cal. 7.62 mm M86
Machine gun cal. 12. 7 mm M87
Automatic grenade launcher cal. 30 mm M93
Overall mass of cupola with weapon station is up to two tons,
diameter of its support bearing is up to 1600 mm. All versions
of the turret, cupola or weapon stations in addition to listed
weapon alternatives are equipped with 4 dispensers of smoke
Aleksandar_Nevski wrote:Jelena our oposition is shit, they are just old communists that know that communism no longer pays off...so they are "nationalists" now...they should be shot! So we need new ppl, and I myself am negotiating with some ppl and seeing that you're interested in politics makes me happy, so I'll give you my msn adress (firstname.lastname@example.org) and contact you, because I have some questions and propositions! There is a way out of this mess and its not that hard, but when your goverment is USA controled then there is no exiting the shithole! We can always loan more from Russia and make ourselves independent, we can contact our diaspora (5 billion euro potential, but they dont want to invest in a country so corupted and anti-serbian...so the way out isnt that hard...only it is Russia oriented and that isnt what "they" want! I could make our military feared in whole europe in 5 years with 5-6 billion $...wich isnt a lot! So...we'll talk about this on MSN! Also everyone else is free to add me, ofcourse meaning good intent russian brothers!
Vladimir79 wrote:Speaking of Serbian peacekeepers, how do you feel about Serbia joining NATO?
Army base in south officially open
23 November 2009 | 09:51 -> 14:39 | Source: B92, Tanjug
CEPOTINA -- The Serbian Army (VS) Base Jug (South), located near Bujanovac, has been officially opened today.
The base, known also as Cepotina after a nearby hill, was hailed as the largest and most modern of its kind in the region.
Serbia's top military and state officials attended the ceremony, including President Boris Tadić, Defense Minister Dragan Šutanovac, VS CoGS Lt. Gen. Miloje Miletić, PM Mirko Cveković, and Police Director Milorad Veljović.
"All Serbian citizens who wish for peace and stability in the region and for the best possible inter-ethnic relations, ought to be pleased with the opening of Base Jug. All those who do not wish for peace and who are involved in organized crime… should not be pleased," Tadić said during the ceremony today.
The president stressed that "the army is one of the key factors" for the state as it fights organized crime, and added that the base is located strategically, and offering "key guarantees" for security and peace in the south of Serbia.
The base, Tadić continued, is important for the overall state and army security capacity in many ways, but it also represents a development potential for the south, "since residents of the region will be able to find employment there".
He said that Jug would have an important role in the preparations for peace missions, and that the completion of works on the base – started six years ago – and those on Corridor 10, would provide for the region's equal development.
Serbia, the president, repeated, has two "key strategic goals", one being membership in the EU, and the other preservation of the country's sovereignty and territorial integrity in Kosovo.
"Serbia will never give up on either of these goals," said Tadić.
Defense Minister Dragan Šutanovac also addressed those present at the ceremony to say that the base had been MoD's largest and most important infrastructure project in the past decades.
He also stated that the ministry will strive to bring other military installations in Serbia to the same standard, and that the base's modern medical unit will be at the disposal of the local community.
The base is located some five kilometers south of Bujanovac in southern Serbia, near the Ground Safety Zone (GSZ), and the administrative line with Kosovo and Metohija.
Its location is some 90 kilometers from Bulgarian border and 30 kilometers from Macedonia.
The base covers 35 hectares of land, with more than 30 facilities built so far, able to accommodate almost 1,000 people.
According to the announcements from the Serbian Defense Ministry, the base could be expanded to another 65 hectares, in order to become a training center for peace operations.
Faculty of Security professor Zoran Dragišić told B92 that the base has a strategic importance for Serbia, considering its location.
"The base has excellent location. It is in a place of greatest Serbian security problems and where greatest security challenges for Serbia can be expected. This is one of the key concrete steps related to the reform of the defense system," this expert believes.
According to him, the military installation's true significance "will depend on political circumstances".
"Considering the policy that is being conducted in Serbia I think that this base can be an important factor for the security of the whole region," said Dragišić.
The southern Serbian region, sometimes referred to as "the Preševo valley", is home to the country's largest ethnic Albanian minority outside of Kosovo, and was on the brink of war after the 1999 conflict in the province.
Local Albanian leaders do not approve of the new base.
Bujanovac municipal chief Saip Kamberi sees Base Jug as "a militarization of the region".
"From the beginning we stood against the idea to have special police and military forces in the region, therefore I do not think this base will contribute to its stability, there was no reason to militarize this region by opening a base, and create an illusion of the state of emergency," said he.
Preševo municipal president Ragmi Mustafa was even more critical, and said that ethnic Albanians will now be "surrounded on all sides by people in uniforms".
"Albanians from the Preševo valley will be occupied in their own homes. We believe that days of armed conflicts are behinds us and therefore there is no need for a military base in the Preševo valley," he was quoted as saying.