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    Post  GarryB on Sun May 31, 2020 8:47 am

    So it is their Chapparal... a ground launched sidewinder based on the upgraded version of a Soviet copy of the weapon...

    I suppose it is a useful way of using existing stocks.... they likely have quite a few missiles...

    Probably wouldn't be very good for the lighter drones that likely wont have enough of an IR signature for a lock, but cruise missiles and of course helicopters and low flying aircraft would be good targets for such a system.

    They could adapt it to fire R-60MKs and R-73s too over time...
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    Post  d_taddei2 on Sun May 31, 2020 11:42 am

    GarryB wrote:So it is their Chapparal... a ground launched sidewinder based on the upgraded version of a Soviet copy of the weapon...

    I suppose it is a useful way of using existing stocks.... they likely have quite a few missiles...

    Probably wouldn't be very good for the lighter drones that likely wont have enough of an IR signature for a lock, but cruise missiles and of course helicopters and low flying aircraft would be good targets for such a system.

    They could adapt it to fire R-60MKs and R-73s too over time...


    and hasn't this system also got a 40mm bofors as well pictures I have seen shows 2-4 missiles and bofors. Bofors could deal with uav
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:05 pm


    M-84 AS-1 upgrade package for M-84 tank (local T-72)

    New armor, gun, weapon station, sensors and fully digital

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    Post  George1 on Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:46 am

    Large-scale production of the Serbian armored vehicle BOB M16 Milos has begun

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    The original was taken from a colleague dambiev in the serial production of the Serbian armored vehicle BOV M16 Miloš

    On June 13, 2020, in the presence of the Minister of Defense of Serbia, Alexander Vulin, the opening ceremony of the mechanical metalworking workshop took place at the new military-industrial cluster under construction at the Borbeni Folding System (BSS) enterprise of the Kugoimport-SDPR association in Pyalkovo (Kurshumliya), where large-scale production is planned new armored vehicles BOV M16 Miloš.

    As bmpd colleagues previously reported, the BOV M16 Miloš has a full combat weight, depending on the configuration, from 12 to 14 tons. The length of the vehicle is 5.48 m, the width is 2.48 m, and the height is 2.3 m. The capacity is eight people, of which four are located in the four-door cockpit, and four in the landing compartment with the aft ramp. Bearing armored hull with the introduction of mine protection, including a V-shaped bottom.

    The machine has a 300 hp Cummins ISB 300 diesel engine, combined with an Allison 3500SP six-speed automatic transmission. Speed ​​on the highway up to 110 km / h, range up to 500 km. The first BOV M16 Miloš prototype presented at IDEX-2017 is equipped with the developed “Kugoimport - SDPR” remotely controlled M15 combat module with a 12.7-mm machine gun.



    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4058718.html
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    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:47 am


    14 tons is quite meaty and damn good for a vehicle in this category and that winch in the front is doing wonders for appearance thumbsup

    Some more photos from link in article:

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    Bonus pic with Lazar-3 in the background packing some extra firepower:

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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:02 pm


    M-20 MRAP 6x6

    Unlike other stuff lately this is budget version troop carrier, idea is to buy them in bulk to finally stop moving soldiers in soft skinned vehicles

    French approach to layout and it's based on dirt cheap local truck FAP-2026 which pretty much translates to ''bottomless pit of spare parts''

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    Post  littlerabbit on Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:31 pm

    M 20 is really good news, hope we will make them in large numbers, more than thousand units. We need a lot of them...and larger army, for sure. I like the way they want to modernize our M-84's...if there is a possibility to return some of those 150 sitting in Kuwait...well, I can dream a bit. Very Happy

    I've heard there will be a re-organisation in our Army, maybe they finally decided to change this British brigade organisation, which is more a problem, than solution for our Army. Neutral
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:56 pm

    littlerabbit wrote:M 20 is really good news, hope we will make them in large numbers, more than thousand units.

    Considering it's based on FAP truck it shouldn't be a problem at all, if there is anything that we can reliably make in insane numbers it's that thing Cool



    littlerabbit wrote:We need a lot of them

    That we definitely do

    I always get disgusted whenever I read about wars in the 90s and learn the number of men we lost in idiotic ambushes on tarp covered trucks and other soft-skinned junk, we lost more men to that to than enemy artillery, it's criminal stupidity

    This is why I hate when people shit talk MRAPs, those are best military inventions since AK-47



    littlerabbit wrote:...and larger army, for sure.

    As long as we keep buying fresh gear enlarging the Army will not be difficult if need arises

    We finally have full setup for military vehicles: upgrades for tanks and IFVs, Lazar and Milos as upper tier MRAPs, M-20 for basic transportation and Zastava trucks for general logistics

    All that is left is to get a lot of it



    littlerabbit wrote:I like the way they want to modernize our M-84's...if there is a possibility to return some of those 150 sitting in Kuwait...well, I can dream a bit. Very Happy

    Kuwait is still using them and are enjoying them quite a lot

    But if they ever decide to get something "better" and replace them we should definitely ask if we can buy them back

    Then again I wouldn't be surprised if they also ask to buy some of those fresh upgrades should we finally get them in production




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    Post  Cyberspec on Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:30 am

    The M-20 MRAP is a good idea...could've been done earlier perhaps

    On the M-84 upgrade

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    Post  xeno on Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:32 am

    Just read this on BMPD
    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4188535.html
    " а с конца октября 2020 года 30 танков Т-72МС были переданы российской стороной Сербии.""
    Serbia got 30 T-72MS's. Is this true or another rubbish invented by BMPD?
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    Post  George1 on Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:39 pm

    xeno wrote:Just read this on BMPD
    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4188535.html
    " а с конца октября 2020 года 30 танков Т-72МС были переданы российской стороной Сербии.""
    Serbia got 30 T-72MS's. Is this true or another rubbish invented by BMPD?

    The Russian Ministry of Defense began supplying the Serbian military with modernized tanks T-72 MS "White Eagle". As reported by the Sputnik Srbia news agency, on October 28, the first two tanks were delivered to Serbia.

    The Serbian military department received the first two T-72MS tanks from 30 modernized White Eagle tanks, donated by Russia to Serbia from the availability under the agreement on military-technical cooperation.

    The tanks were delivered on October 28 this year by Il-76TD transport aircraft. The unloading of the aircraft was carried out at the airfield in Batainitsa near Belgrade.

    According to the bmpd blog, the modernization of the T-72B1 tanks into the T-72MS version was carried out at the 61st Armored Repair Plant JSC (Strelna, St. Petersburg).

    T-72MS "White Eagle" is equipped with a round-the-clock gunner's sight PN-72 "Sosna-U", a commander's round-the-clock panoramic sight PKP-72 "Falcon Eye" using a third-generation thermal imaging camera, automatic target tracking, chassis information control system, navigation system , a new cannon stabilizer, and a remote-controlled anti-aircraft machine gun. In this case, the dynamic protection "Contact-1" is not replaced.

    When the remaining 28 tanks will be delivered, it has not yet been reported.

    https://en.topwar.ru/176608-rossija-nachala-postavku-v-serbiju-modernizirovannyh-tankov-t-72mc-belyj-orel.html
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    Post  xeno on Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:42 am

    I thought Russia learned lesson of USSR giving other countries weapons for free, sigh...
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:01 pm

    xeno wrote:I thought Russia learned lesson of USSR giving other countries weapons for free, sigh...

    It's not for free

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    Post  George1 Yesterday at 3:57 am

    Modernized Russian-made T-72MS tanks demonstrated in Serbia

    On November 28, 2020, in Nis, in the "Mija Stanimirović" barracks, a demonstration of the first batch of 11 modernized T-72MS "White Eagle" tanks was held (a total of 30 units will be transferred), which were donated by Russia as part of an agreement on military-technical cooperation, which was achieved between the presidents of Serbia Aleksandar Vucic and the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin.

    The show was attended by Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic, Chief of the General Staff of the Serbian Army Milan Moisilovic, Serbian Defense Minister Nebojsa Stefanovic and Russian Ambassador to Serbia Aleksandr Botan-Kharchenko.

    The modernized T-72MS "White Eagle" tanks are equipped with a round-the-clock gunner's sight PN-72 ("Sosna-U" manufactured by the Belarusian OJSC Peleng), a commander's round-the-clock panoramic sight PKP-72 ("Falcon Eye" also produced by OJSC "Peleng", with using a third-generation thermal imaging camera - apparently Thales Catherine XP), an automatic target tracking system BARV.468939.001, a chassis information and control system, a navigation system, a new cannon stabilizer, and a remote-controlled anti-aircraft machine gun mount. At the same time, the old ERA of the Contact-1 series is retained.

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