d_taddei2 wrote:Militarov wrote:littlerabbit wrote:Looks like we will have some new acquisitions in our AF...4 new Mi-17's and 4 new Mi-35's and some stuff for the Army.
Obtaining T-72s while we have dozens of M-84s that can be overhauled and placed back in service, and are younger than those T-72s... and obtaining BMP-2s while we have dozens of M-80s that also can be overhauled and modernised. Sounds like logistic nightmare, even worse than one we already had.
I quite agree. The T-72 in service could be upgraded and the M-84 also could be upgraded they have the skills to do it. T-72 with help from Russia or Belarus could be upgraded. I believe that the T-72 their getting were gifted or bought at token price. The
M-80 could easily be upgraded similar to berezhok. They already have M-80AB1 30mm gun and 2T5 anti tank missiles. I would upgrade on this with an AGS and an another variant of M-80 armed with a mix of malyutka with following variants:
2T5(radio guided 5km range for long range sniping)
9M14-2T (tandem warhead improved penetration)
9M14-2F (thermobaric warhead)
this would give theM a multi purpose missile carrier the malyutka still (in upgraded form) a fairly decent ATGW it's cheap (probably the cheapest) and they have the means to produce it. Serbia should spend money on upgrading current equipment that still is useful rather than one off prototypes that they will never buy. They have many vehicles in storage mainly M-80, M-84, T-55, BTR-60, BTR-50. M-84 could be upgraded and there's no reason why Serbia couldn't make their own TOS or BMPT (using upgraded malyutka) using M-84 or T-55 chassis.
M-80 could also be upgraded or used ATGW.
BTR-60 as command or ATGW or Air defence with strelets or zu-23-2ZOM type upgrade and as for
BTR-50 they showcased a turret version with 20 or 30 mm gun and malyutka although i think this vehicles armour is took week to be a good AFV but i rather think it would be more suited as a mortar carrier with it roof opening doors a 120mm mortar or an 82mm automatic mortar would be ideal. these dont have to be expensive upgrades and nothing outwith there technology know how. This would allow them to field a capable ground force.
I agree, but...although we have in reserve 200 of M-80's, it is questionable in what condition are they, after almost 2 decades of total negligence. Maybe our military HQ thinks it will be needed a lot of money per unit to get them operational, so they decided to get 30 or 60 BMP-2's, cos it's cheaper.
Making BMPT's out of T-55A's is great idea, they can even make some of them into something like Israeli Achzarit, but who knows what they have in their minds. Above all, I'm not sure they know what are they doing, honestly.