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    Post  Viktor Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:05 pm

    I think no country of its size takes rearmament program so extensivly ...

    Few things I can remember at the moment ...

    Personal equipment

    - AK Factory
    - Two AK munition factory
    - 100 000 AK-103
    - 5000 Dragunov sniper rifles
    - Night optic for AK/Dragunov
    - 1800 Igla-S MANPAD
    - Minimi machine gun

    Air Force

    - 24 Su-30MKV (rumors are Su-35 are done deal)
    - 38 Mi-17
    - 3 Mi-26
    - 10 Mi-35 (rumors are Mi-28 is a done deal)
    - 36 K-8
    - 10-12 Y-8 transport


    Antiaircraft

    - S-300V on order (confirmed)
    - BUK-M1-2
    - Pechora-2M
    - TOR-M1 (considered)

    Ground forces

    - Smerch (most likely on order)
    - 92 T-72B tanks
    - BTR-80/BMP (most likely on order)

    Naval

    - 4 POVZEE
    - Yakhont coastal missile battery
    - Subs are mentioned often but no deal yet

    EW

    - 3 JYL-1 3D radar
    - JY11B radar
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    Post  GarryB Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:22 pm

    That is a very impressive list.

    Forgive my ignorance but does Venezuela produce anything for export that might be valuable to Russia.

    It is just that I think a two way trade in goods will lead to a more healthy and productive relationship than if they are just a customer of weapons.
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    Post  Viktor Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:19 am

    GarryB wrote:That is a very impressive list.

    Forgive my ignorance but does Venezuela produce anything for export that might be valuable to Russia.

    It is just that I think a two way trade in goods will lead to a more healthy and productive relationship than if they are just a customer of weapons.

    Venezuela produces oil and Russian/Chinese companies have taken place of western companies under different contract.
    Thats about it.

    At the moment Russian and Venezuelan govremments are forming joint bank to finance Russian arms sales to Venezuela.

    4Bin are in preparation.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:33 pm

    Well in that case I hope Russias experience of trying to diversify their economy is of benefit to Venezuela too.
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    Post  Admin Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:36 am

    Viktor wrote:I think no country of its size takes rearmament program so extensivly ...

    UAE takes the prize for per capita arms spending by far.
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    Post  TR1 Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:27 pm

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/150091.html

    Nice pics of Pechora-2M in Venezuela. This modernization has picked up quite a few sales here and there.
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    Post  Viktor Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:43 pm

    It could be that Venezuela becomes for Russia what Saudi Arabia is for US.

    I think Venezuela surpassed Saudi Arabia by its oil reserves.
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:32 pm

    Viktor wrote:It could be that Venezuela becomes for Russia what Saudi Arabia is for US.

    I think Venezuela surpassed Saudi Arabia by its oil reserves.

    The difference being that at least Venezuela has a logical arms-procurement program that is optimized for efficiency, integration of hardware and so on by focusing on just a few arms suppliers; rather than mixing and matching like a kid in a candy store - which is what the Saudi's are doing.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:21 am

    The Saudis have no real military problems... I mean we saw what happened when Saddam invaded a country near Saudi Arabia in 1990.

    That enormous over reaction wasn't about Kuwaite. Kuwaite isn't even a real democracy even today and it doesn't have that much oil.

    What the fear was that a successful invasion of Kuwaite might be followed by an invasion of Saudi Arabia and that cannot even be considered.

    In such an environment Saudi Arabia doesn't need a military force as the US guarantees its security. This means that Saudi Arabia can use military purchases as political tools to buy influence and power and control.
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    Post  TheArmenian Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:16 am

    Saudi Arms purchases are just bribes given by the ruler to the West to stay in power. No arms = no throne.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:46 am

    Pretty much right, though the west would not want the current royal family to fall from power as any democratic regime would be a regime of the people and the average saudi doesn't like America much and certainly does not like Israel.

    The US might like democracy in Iraq or Iran as imposed by the US, but it certainly does not want democracy in Saudi Arabia... real democracies are much more expensive to control.
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    Post  Viktor Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:28 pm

    Military parade of Venezuela military.

    They need only Topol-M to look like just like Russian army Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


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    Post  Viktor Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:38 pm

    Nice nice Very Happy

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    Post  Viktor Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:38 pm

    Interesting pics from Venezuela

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    Post  Viktor Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:38 am

    Pechora-2M

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    Post  Viktor Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:02 pm

    Its going to get interesting

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    Maduro promised to create in Venezuela, the world's most powerful air defense system
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    Post  SOC Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:56 pm

    Attempting to piece this all together from various places around the web. Comments and corrections/additions are welcome!

    Here's what I've got so far:

    19 Brigade (Maracaibo)
    -191 Group, Pechora-2M, BARU
    -192 Group, Pechora-2M, Josefa Camejo
    -198 Group, Igla-S, Maracaibo

    29 Brigade (El Sombrero)
    -297 Group
    -X Group, Antey-2500, BAMARI (might be 297 Group)

    39 Brigade (Caracas)
    -391 Group, Pechora-2M, Charallave
    -392 Group, Pechora-2M
    -393 Group, Buk-M2E, Meseta de Mano
    -394 Group, Antey-2500
    -399 Group, RBS-70, Cumana

    49 Brigade (Barcelona)

    59 Brigade (Guayana)
    -599 Group, Igla-S, El Guri

    69 Brigade

    One thing that makes the process tedious is that acronyms are often used for FAV bases. BAMARI, for example, is B.A. Manuel Rios. Also, although integrated under the air defence command structure, 393 Group is operated by either the Navy or Marines. Anyway, ongoing process.
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    Post  Viktor Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:43 pm

    Great  Very Happy 

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    Post  Viktor Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:33 am

    Not related to Russia but is to Venezuela

    Venezuela bought 26 Chinese radars

    - 26 new radars stations bought from China
    - 10 command post bought from China
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    Post  TR1 Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:14 pm

    Hopefully they actually work- Chinese radars have had a lot of issue with other Latin American operators.
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    Post  Cyberspec Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:54 am

    Came across some info on the JY-11B radar

     Arrow JY-11B 3D Radar
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    Post  mutantsushi Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:53 pm

    http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/154325/navantia-to-repair-venezuelan-opv-in-brazil.html
    Navantia Signs Contract with Brazilian Company for Repair of Venezuelan OPV PC-22 Warao

    Navantia, which originally built the ship, will repair and upgrade the Venezuelan navy’s PC-22 “Warao” offshore patrol vessel in Brazil. (Navantia photo)
    Navantia and the Brazilian company ECOVIX - ENGEVIX have signed a contract for technical consulting and advisory services by Navantia for the assembly and commissioning of the propulsion, automation and power generation systems of PC-22 “Warao," an offshore patrol vessel (OPV) built by Navantia for the navy of Venezuela and delivered in 2011.

    Was there particular problems with these vessels, that they would need an overhaul this soon after delivery?
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    Post  Viktor Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:57 am

    Nice one from Venezuela

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    Post  mack8 Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:20 pm

    Venezuela's redoutable shield:
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    Post  Viktor Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:09 pm

    Best pictures so far ... tnx Mack and +1 f thumbsup 

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