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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Wed May 16, 2018 1:50 am

    Isos wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Just seen some drone footage of a RuAF strike where the explosion is bright white followed by blue. Any idea what does that?

    The video is at the end of this link, clear explosions start at about 43 secs in.

    https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/996354141772500993

    Do you know what was hit ? It seems to be electricity but no explosion maybe EMP weapon. Or bad quality video with the red coulor being transformed into blue.

    No there was an explosion, probably with a photoflash mixture and the light distortion makes it brighter than it really is. Normally photoflash mixtures were supposed to be a thing of the past.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  JohninMK on Wed May 16, 2018 11:56 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Isos wrote:

    Do you know what was hit ? It seems to be electricity but no explosion maybe EMP weapon. Or bad quality video with the red coulor being transformed into blue.

    No there was an explosion, probably with a photoflash mixture and the light distortion makes it brighter than it really is. Normally photoflash mixtures were supposed to be a thing of the past.
    The row of buildings were claimed to be industrial units but look more like flats to me. There were 4 similar explosions in the video but the two I pointed out were the clearest. Could have been an electrical substation in the building but unlikely to have been 4. Given the amount of dust thrown up it must have taken a reasonable amount of explosive to achieve that, also all 4 seem to have been a similar size.

    What is a 'photoflash' mixture and what was it developed to achieve?

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  par far on Wed May 16, 2018 11:07 pm

    "RUSSIAN WARSHIPS WITH KALIBR CRUISE MISSILES TO BE PERMANENTLY ON DUTY IN MEDITERRANEAN: PUTIN."

    https://southfront.org/russian-warships-with-kalibr-cruise-missiles-to-be-permanently-on-duty-in-mediterranean-putin/



    "SYRIAN ARMY MAKES SIGNIFICANT GAINS IN AL-HAJAR AL-ASWAD SOUTH OF DAMASCUS (MAP, VIDEO)."





    "RUSSIAN, TURKISH AND IRANIAN FORCES WILL OPEN KEY HIGHWAY IN IDLIB GOVERNORATE – REPORT."



    https://southfront.org/russian-turkish-and-iranian-forces-will-open-key-highway-in-idlib-governorate-report/



    "TIGER FORCES MAY LAUNCH NEW MILITARY OPERATION AGAINST MILITANTS AROUND ALEPPO CITY."


    https://southfront.org/tiger-forces-may-launch-new-military-operation-against-militants-around-aleppo-city/

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  JohninMK on Thu May 17, 2018 12:29 am

    Isos wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Unusual flight underway. This An-124 first flew to Kaliningrad, was quickly turned round back to Russia where it had what looked like a refuelling/change crew stop, then off again.


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    Update: #RUAF An-124 82035 continues from Mozdok to #Latakia. Airlifting something big and heavy from Kaliningrad to Syria

    Kaliningrad is full of weapons. They probably took the oldest stocks for Syrian army like MRLS rockets or tank shells ...

    Second An-124 flight has now landed in Syria and a third flight is now on its way to Kaliningrad. Looks like a big airlift of something needed sooner rather than wait for a ship trip.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  GarryB on Thu May 17, 2018 2:02 am

    What is a 'photoflash' mixture and what was it developed to achieve?

    Before the Soviets had thermal night vision optics they generally used LLTV, which is basically not night and all weather capable.

    It give them some capability at night they developed photoflash bombs... basically bombs that created a very bright flash at the time you took pictures... a bit like a parachute flare round for mortars to illuminate the area where the enemy was for a short period, except instead of a burning flare these bombs created a very short bright flash for taking photos.

    Naval patrol aircraft often carried them too, but they were mostly used for recon and for damage assessment of targets attacked at night.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  JohninMK on Thu May 17, 2018 11:14 pm

    Thanks Garry, not sure why they would use them on a building.

    Meanwhile, a nasty shock for some

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    #FSA Jaysh al-Nasr Anti-Armor Battalion Commander Lieutenant Eyad Abu al-Majd: #Assad regime Kornet #ATGM systems have been updated by #Russia, improving the range from 5,500 m to 10,000 m, and are now able to fire 2 missiles together


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    Sounds like Russia might have deployed in Syria Kornet-D (which is using 9M133 Kornet-EM missiles) or supplied regime with it.

    Range: 10km
    It can launch a salvo of 2 missiles less than a second apart, either at a single target or at two different targets simultaneously.

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    Mitsubishi L200 & another van from +7km out, struck by regime ATGM Latakia .
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  GarryB on Fri May 18, 2018 3:37 am

    Thanks Garry, not sure why they would use them on a building.

    They wouldn't.

    It was designed to produce intense white light for photographic purposes... it would likely not do any physical damage to a structure except physical impact.

    I rather suspect it was just an optical effect of the type of explosive being used...

    With some ammo I sometimes found I could see a blue flame coming from my chinese AKM firing in low light conditions... it was sort of bunsen burner blue... which suggests a specific temperature it was burning at to me... perhaps it was the same with this explosive... a specific temperature generated a specific light flash...

    Not a light expert.

    Some photographs show the tips of helicopter rotor blades glowing when there is not fire or explosion there either... a sort of halo.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  JohninMK on Fri May 18, 2018 11:42 am

    Thanks Garry.

    Meanwhile the third An-124 should have landed in Latakia by now. Nothing about a 4th flight heading to Kaliningrad so maybe its job done.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  A Different Voice on Fri May 18, 2018 9:10 pm

    Vann7 wrote:Some sources claim the KA-52 was shotdown by a manpad..


    The head of Russian generals needs to roll ,literary should be shot in public ,  if this information is confirmed
    and later found, the hellicopters did not have Counter Electronics warfare equipment .
    and if they had.. then it means Russia EW sucks big time... or it wasn't a manpad at all..
    or some kind of attacks by NATO special forces with Energy weapons or Railguns.

    railguns? seriously?
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  BKP on Fri May 18, 2018 11:16 pm

    Another good piece of analysis from Mercouris. Thus one regarding the Netanyahu trip to Moscow and meeting w/ Putin on May 9th. Have to say that, too me, his take makes the most sense out of what I've seen so far. I had some of the same notions that he does in regard to it, albeit cruder and less fleshed-out. It's quite a long piece, so I'm not going to paste all the text in here.

    Moscow for Victory Day: why did Putin invite him?

    Putin’s invitation to Netanyahu was diplomacy not surrender at a time when the Middle East is on fire and war with Iran may be coming

    http://theduran.com/netanyahu-moscow-victory-day-why-putin-invite/

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Big_Gazza on Sat May 19, 2018 3:10 am

    BKP wrote:Another good piece of analysis from Mercouris. Thus one regarding the Netanyahu trip to Moscow and meeting w/ Putin on May 9th. Have to say that, too me, his take makes the most sense out of what I've seen so far. I had some of the same notions that he does in regard to it, albeit cruder and less fleshed-out. It's quite a long piece, so I'm not going to paste all the text in here.

    Moscow for Victory Day: why did Putin invite him?

    Putin’s invitation to Netanyahu was diplomacy not surrender at a time when the Middle East is on fire and war with Iran may be coming

    http://theduran.com/netanyahu-moscow-victory-day-why-putin-invite/


    Agreed, its clearly a case of Putin biting his tongue and swallowing his disgust in the sake for the bigger picture. He's a cool operator who has demonstrated this behavior time and time again in the face of repeated US/EU manufactured crises, so why should anyone be surprised now? He's not an adolescent who seeks immediate gratification for every slight, both real and imagined. He's a chessplayer and knows taht having a public hissy fit and shooting down US/HATO warplanes is a no-win situation that will only de-rail his plans. If immature power-junky fan-bois don't understand the game and how it is played then that is their problem....
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  eehnie on Sat May 19, 2018 4:23 am

    The vote of the UN Human Rights Council is a clear measure of how many friends have Israel in the World today.

    Of all these countries only the United States and Australia voted in favor of Israel, after a call of the US to do it.

    http://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/HRC/Pages/MembersByGroup.aspx

    It is amazing that Netanyahu accepted to be to the left, after the Serbian president. He wanted the picture for propaganda purposes no matter what is the cost.

    No-one believes the zionists.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  JohninMK on Sat May 19, 2018 8:03 pm


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Isos on Mon May 21, 2018 12:19 am

    Two raptor boat deployed in syria

    https://mobile.twitter.com/WaelAlRussi/status/998224952527646720

    Is it possible to post from twitter like we post a video from youtube here so that the post is showed without the need to quote ? Specially for the images so they can be shared here directly without using the host an image button and upload and .. you know ?
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  PapaDragon on Mon May 21, 2018 1:32 am

    Isos wrote:Two raptor boat deployed in syria

    https://mobile.twitter.com/WaelAlRussi/status/998224952527646720

    Is it possible to post from twitter like we post a video from youtube here so that the post is showed without the need to quote ? Specially for the images so they can be shared here directly without using the host an image button and upload and .. you know ?

    Just copy location of image from Twitter and post is as standard image, works the same


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Vann7 on Mon May 21, 2018 10:44 pm

    A new drone Attack on Russia military base.. but even though it was intercepted , they report it came
    close to the base..  No

    https://www.rt.com/news/427360-russia-downs-drone-syria-airbase/


    If Russia allows a single drone to come anywhere close to the base , i consider that a monumental failure.
    If that drone was full of lethal chemical weapon , it will have spread through the entire base.. Some heads
    needs to be fired in Russia military , they need to identify the place drones comes , with tower bases of
    Observations and and shot the drones withing seconds they are launched in the air.. allowing a terrorist/NATO
    drone to come close to the Russian base is a failure.. If this was an attack of 50 to 100 hundred of kamikazi drones , *which NATO can easily provide**.. they will have penetrated the Russian base and killed soldiers..


    mark my words.. This attacks will continue ,for the only reason that there is no negative consequences for the people behind this attacks.. Russian enemies.., they testing Russian air defenses and will continue the provocations and until The idiot President Putin don't see Russian blood in the dozens in their military base in Syria with planes destroyed , in a major humiliation nation wide ,the monkey President as always will do nothing to reinforce the security of its soldiers.. The place from where the drones comes needs to be flattened completely by heavy Foab bombs.. and terrorist needs to suffer major loses of territory too near the base.. Putin can just sit down and wait its enemies to keep trying and trying because eventually they will do it. Just a massive attack will do the job.


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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  Isos on Mon May 21, 2018 10:45 pm

    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201805211064662354-air-defences-take-out-drone/

    Another drone interception happened today by the russian air defence force in Hmeimim airbase.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  d_taddei2 on Tue May 22, 2018 2:10 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Thanks Garry, not sure why they would use them on a building.

    They wouldn't.

    It was designed to produce intense white light for photographic purposes... it would likely not do any physical damage to a structure except physical impact.

    I rather suspect it was just an optical effect of the type of explosive being used...

    With some ammo I sometimes found I could see a blue flame coming from my chinese AKM firing in low light conditions... it was sort of bunsen burner blue... which suggests a specific temperature it was burning at to me... perhaps it was the same with this explosive... a specific temperature generated a specific light flash...

    Not a light expert.

    Some photographs show the tips of helicopter rotor blades glowing when there is not fire or explosion there either... a sort of halo.


    Although not likely the case but when I was in forces any night sight we had were to be kept covered during the day because bright light could damage the sight now if day light could damage night sights I would imagine that light of this intensity could easily damage enemy night sights and another thing if flares were going to be used we were told not to use night sights due to eye damage also told not to look at the moon using them lol. So double damage could be done one to the sights and another to your own sight (eye balls) lol. Although unlikely done for this reason in this case.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  GarryB on Tue May 22, 2018 10:49 am

    Specially for the images so they can be shared here directly without using the host an image button and upload and .. you know ?

    If you link directly to an image from another website you create a few potential problems... the first and obvious one is if they move the image the link will break and wont be displayed here. Second when someone opens this thread the harddrive the file is sitting on gets used but the owner gets no traffic through their site, which might influence the amount of revenue they get from the advertisers on their site. In fact the traffic at their site might be effected because traffic on other unrelated sites with hotlinked images might be chewing up his bandwidth.

    Hotlinking is bad form... don't do it.

    Youtube offers hot linking and include embedding code so it can be done because there is a button on the video display that allows a user to watch the video at the Youtube site, and most videos end with other youtube videos... so it is advertising itself.

    Still images from other sites generally prefer a link to their site so people looking at their pics at least see the site it came from and they get credit for the traffic.

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    Although not likely the case but when I was in forces any night sight we had were to be kept covered during the day because bright light could damage the sight now if day light could damage night sights I would imagine that light of this intensity could easily damage enemy night sights and another thing if flares were going to be used we were told not to use night sights due to eye damage also told not to look at the moon using them lol. So double damage could be done one to the sights and another to your own sight (eye balls) lol. Although unlikely done for this reason in this case.

    In chechnia it was common for soldiers to use camera photo flashes to try to blind enemy using night vision devices... of course such a flash will also temporarily blind some ones normal vision in the dark too, but could damage or ruin first generation II sights.

    Against thermal sights it makes no difference.
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  calm on Tue May 22, 2018 5:35 pm

    Hmeimim, Latakia, Syria.
    "Measures for insurance of information security"
    On poster:
    "No
    Only with buttons"
    Allowed models, allegedly, on last 2 photos.


    https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/998935136996642816



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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  nomadski on Tue May 22, 2018 8:51 pm


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v-1tbSJP8yI


    Who is flying UAV near Syria airports ? But UAV can be brought down . Syria can make a domestic version of UAV . To land near sites to monitor rat activity and supplies . But I would make a UAV that lands near a road or border crossing . Deploys a mini rover . With camera . Many available on market . Activated by sound or movement . Then send wild life rat photo to the army . Then UAV not shot down . All borders are checked .



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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  BKP on Thu May 24, 2018 11:31 pm

    ^^ What magic is there in "buttons"? Why is the information on a captured flip phone more secure than that found on a smart phone? scratch
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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  JohninMK on Fri May 25, 2018 12:15 am

    Can't remember another member of the Syrian Express having to be towed home. Think this was one of the merchant ships that Russia bought cheap at the start of the operation.

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  PapaDragon on Fri May 25, 2018 2:13 am


    Considering how hard they have been riding them I am surprised they lasted this long Smile

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    Re: Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri May 25, 2018 6:53 pm

    calm wrote:Hmeimim, Latakia, Syria.
    "Measures for insurance of information security"
    On poster:
    "No
    Only with buttons"
    Allowed models, allegedly, on last 2 photos.


    https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/998935136996642816




    I'd be more worried by the presence of "pro's" around the base premises even posing for pictures. Yes I am talking about the two women.

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