The Situation in the Ukraine. #22

But but but, its all quieter in the East, Kiev says so! So it must be true.

The intensity of shelling by the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk people's republics (DPR and LPR) has significantly lowered, and there have been only ten such incidents over the past 24 hours, Ukrainian presidential spokesman for the military operation in Donbas Andriy Lysenko said. "The situation in the ATO [antiterrorist operation] zone significantly improved yesterday. Ten ceasefire violations by the enemy were recorded yesterday, all of them in the Donetsk sector. The shelling was mostly untargeted and usually lasted for up to 10 minutes," Lysenko said at a news conference in Kyiv on Saturday.

No Ukrainian armed forces servicemen have been killed, although five soldiers have been injured over the past 24 hours, Lysenko said. "We have not lost any of our soldiers due to combat actions over the past 24 hours. At the same time, five Ukrainian military servicemen have sustained injuries by hitting explosive devices. This happened in Novhorodske and in Troitske, the Donetsk region," he said.

Another defection to the Donbas, this time a SBU General;

http://rusnext.ru/news/1448908635

Also read that the next Prisoner exchange, is to include the Russian "Major" caught driving ammo thru the border for the Intelligence officer captured from the 81st brigade UAF.

higurashihougi wrote:Ukrainian's new kind of BMPT

https://www.rt.com/news/323887-tank-city-ukraine-avakov/

... and Russians joked that it looks like a trashbin.

I'm pretty sure their were some videos of the HaHols converting some T-64s into these IFVs ,,,, if I remember rightly we commented how amateurish and cheap they were in converting the T-64s into these IFVs

"The Wolfsangel (German pronunciation: [ˈvɔlfsˌʔaŋəl]) is a German heraldic charge inspired by an actual historic wolf trap consisting of two metal parts and a connecting chain. The top part of the trap, which resembled a crescent moon with a ring inside, used to be fastened between branches of a tree in the forest while the bottom part, on which meat scraps used to be hung, was a hook meant to be swallowed by a wolf. The simplified design based on the iron "wolf-hook" was often heavily stylized to no longer resemble a baited hook hung from a tree or an entire wolf trap. Other names included Wolfsanker ("wolf-anchor") or Wolfsjagd as well as hameçon or hameçon de loup, a half-moon shape with a ring, or as cramp or crampon in English with a ring at the center, sometimes also called Doppelhaken "double-hook", or acrampon with a transversal stroke. All of these symbols are still found in a number of municipal coats of arms in Germany. The crampon is also found as a mason's mark in medieval stonework."

Here we go, one to make you smile and two to show the international finance system is just for show.

The US was found to have sent mostly outdated military equipment to Ukraine, as trust issues and corruption continue to degrade Ukraine's military supply.
Although the US Congress recently approved $300 million in lethal aid for Ukraine as part of its National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), the country continues to receive mostly outdated and used US military equipment, according to the Washington Post. However, the outmoded equipment could be the result of Ukrainian military corruption, and not only incompetence in the US military bureaucracy. Previous shipments of meals ready-to-eat (MREs) previously ended up on online auction sites such as eBay according to reports, while more sensitive high-tech equipment, which faces export controls in the US, runs the risk of being captured or similarly sold off. One infantry unit of 120 men received a single bulletproof jacket from the US, according to the report.
"If the Americans are going to send us equipment, don’t send us secondhand stuff," one Ukrainian special forces commander said. The Washington Post report mentioned equipment such as Humvees with worn-out tires and plastic doors. Both a lack of funding and preparation have been blamed in the US. The US sent around 100 Humvee jeeps to Ukraine, although most of them appear to be meant for spare parts, according to an official interviewed by the publication.
The Ukrainian military has also lost sensitive equipment such as an AN/TPQ-49 lightweight counter-mortar radar, which was lost during Kiev's retreat from the town of Debaltsevo, according to the New York Times.
The US plans to send more equipment to Ukraine as its frozen conflict with Donbass independence supporters continues, although the Obama administration has so far refrained from sending deadly weapons, which have been referred to as "lethal aid."
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151201/1031033684/us-ukraine-obsolete-aid.html#ixzz3t4IjnD1g


WASHINGTON (Sputnik) – The International Monetary Fund board of directors will meet in early December to discuss changing the crediting rules to permit the sovereign debt default of the debtor, a source said. "[The meeting]is scheduled for early December," the source told RIA Novosti.
The source did not elaborate on the date, only adding that it was not final and the meeting had previously been postponed. The IMF has been discussing the reform for over five years, but the acceleration of discussions on the issue is likely to be linked to the possibility of Ukraine defaulting on the Russian debt.
Ukraine’s debt amounts to $70 billion of which some $40 billion the country owes to international money lenders. Of that amount, Ukraine owes Russia $3 billion and is required to pay it back by the end of 2015.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151201/1031024035/imf-defaulted-debtors-loans.html#ixzz3t4Hw3eGi


Ukraine's finance ministry has submitted its new budget proposal, which it hopes will allow it to avoid a freeze of IMF funding over disagreements with the country's parliament. Ukraine's new budget totals $28.1 billion with a $3.4 billion deficit, according to a new document issued by the country's finance ministry. To accommodate the country' new tax system, the finance ministry seeks $2.5 billion in budget cuts, while the country's parliament seeks to cut $8.4 billion. The finance ministry considers the cuts unsustainable.
The International Monetary Fund has frozen another $1.7 billion tranche for Ukraine because of disagreements over tax reforms. Both the parliament and the finance ministry seek to have a military budget of between $3.5 billion and $7 billion, which could make it total more than a third of the national budget if the parliamentary cuts are passed.
According to IMF projections, Ukraine's nominal GDP for 2015 is estimated at around $90.1 billion. The economy is expected to surpass its 2010 levels by 2020, according to its estimates. New IMF funds may also be frozen if Ukraine fails to repay the $3 billion it owes Russia.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151201/1031029003/ukraine-finance-ministry-budget.html#ixzz3t4IFlhY1

We have heard this before, there must be some kind of International meeting coming up that needs reassuring. Never any mention of the numbers and breakdown of those in the Kiev Governments hands.

KIEV, November 30. /TASS/. Ukraine is ready to exchange prisoners on the "all for all" basis at any moment, Ukraine Security Service chairman’s advisor Yury Tandit said on Monday. "Ukraine is ready at any moment, on any day for a joint operation and to release everyone in several hours," UNN news agency quoted Tandit as saying. According to Tandit, around 140 people are currently held as prisoners in Donbas. "Among them are 80 people from the defense ministry, National Guard, volunteer battalions and around 60 civilians," he added. He noted that talks are "held every day". "The main thing is that enormous work is being done to search for those alive and dead, for missing persons," Tandit continued.

Ukrainian president’s commissioner for peaceful settlement in Donbass Irina Geraschenko said earlier that 148 military and civilians are held as prisoners in Donbass.

On November 29 the self-proclaimed Luhansk People’s Republic (LPR) people’s militia headquarters deputy commander Igor Yaschenko said that the prisoner exchange was disrupted by the Ukrainian side. "The Ukrainian side has unilaterally refused to take part in the exchange for reasons unknown to us," Yaschenko said adding that this is not the first such case.

It is confirmed by eyes on reliable sources that the orcs are moving armor, arty and troops to the area of the Krimu border. The locals on both sides are aghast, the ones we spoke to this early evening can't believe what they are seeing. One pebble tossed in to Krim from Kherson Oblast and Mother will make it look like a monkey having conjugal relations with a football and it'll be the orcs with the laces up their backs. Suicide much?

The fighting on NAF lines is stronger every night, bombardments and infantry probes. OSCE is out of the field by 16:00, can't miss dinner at the hotel and then there's cocktail hour. The orcs wait until 20:00 or 21:00, then start their attacks and bombardments. It is of interest that NAF Command has said on more then one occasion of late that if hostilities resume full force then the borders after the fighting will be drawn by Novorossiya, not EU, US, NATO or OSCE. If fighting resumes we look for some really serious sanctions this time.

Holy sh*t Batman, they did so well on a single front last time that they are now doubling up.

Can anyone get their head around the strategic logic of this?

Donbas first move then Crimea, Crimea first move then Donbas, both together, Donbas first move then Crimea if Russia responds?

JohninMK wrote:Holy sh*t Batman, they did so well on a single front last time that they are now doubling up.

Can anyone get their head around the strategic logic of this?

Donbas first move then Crimea, Crimea first move then Donbas, both together, Donbas first move then Crimea if Russia responds?

Perhaps the orcs feel that if Mother didn't clean orcland to the Dnepr in February that the orcs can do what they want with little fear of retribution. Methinks they might be mistaken. Novorossiya is not part of Russia, Krim and Sevastopol are.

auslander wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Holy sh*t Batman, they did so well on a single front last time that they are now doubling up.

Can anyone get their head around the strategic logic of this?

Donbas first move then Crimea, Crimea first move then Donbas, both together, Donbas first move then Crimea if Russia responds?

Perhaps the orcs feel that if Mother didn't clean orcland to the Dnepr in February that the orcs can do what they want with little fear of retribution. Methinks they might be mistaken. Novorossiya is not part of Russia, Krim and Sevastopol are.

You could be right especially as Russia is in quite a different place now following Syria with a much better view of the potential downsides. Maybe its just the US pushing this vassal forward to test Russia's ability to fight on two fronts, here and Syria, neither of which pose much risk to US citizens or assets.

auslander wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Holy sh*t Batman, they did so well on a single front last time that they are now doubling up.

Can anyone get their head around the strategic logic of this?

Donbas first move then Crimea, Crimea first move then Donbas, both together, Donbas first move then Crimea if Russia responds?

Perhaps the orcs feel that if Mother didn't clean orcland to the Dnepr in February that the orcs can do what they want with little fear of retribution. Methinks they might be mistaken. Novorossiya is not part of Russia, Krim and Sevastopol are.

I have no doubt that ukrops are stupid enough to try.

I also have no doubt that in that case Russian Military will perform reverse terraforming of the Ukraine.

Even Novo is suicide for them but Crimea? Popcorn time!!!

Sorry if this sounds bad, but im pretty much wishing that they will attack crimea.

It would be like a braindamaged toddler trying to fight a heavyweight boxer.

Complete suicide for them, thats why i dont think even their idiocy stretches that far.

Maybe Ukraine learned that Putin does not respond to the murder of their own military men that they think there wont be a Russian military response if they attacked Ukraine. Alread PUkraine violated Russian territory more than once and even killed a Russian civillian.

sepheronx wrote:Maybe Ukraine learned that Putin does not respond to the murder of their own military men that they think there wont be a Russian military response if they attacked Ukraine. Alread PUkraine violated Russian territory more than once and even killed a Russian civillian.

Possibly, but after the shelling of Rostov Oblast and the death of the elderly gentleman I would be willing to bet that although there is no incontrovertible proof that the North Wind actually blew there are a lot of widows and mothers without sons from the cauldron battles very shortly thereafter who very well understood the error of their son's and husband's ways.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:auslander, why you call Crimea "Krimu"? In Russian it's Крым (Krim - the sound represented by "ы" does not exist in English)

If you were to say in russian, 'i am in crimea' the end of the word would change, so you would say 'я в крыму' or Ja v krimu.

Im assuming thats where it comes from in this case. Russian grammar is pretty complicated though once you know the rules its easy enough most of the time.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:auslander, why you call Crimea "Krimu"? In Russian it's Крым (Krim - the sound represented by "ы" does not exist in English)

In Serbian its "Krim" for an example.

http://www.newsweek.com/tatar-activists-plan-extend-their-blockade-crimea-sea-400018

Basically asking the FSB or the Black Sea Fleet and the rest of the Russian military to fvck them up. Russia is the only one that controls the Kerch Strait. Stalin should have murdered them all.

Rodinazombie wrote:

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:auslander, why you call Crimea "Krimu"? In Russian it's Крым (Krim - the sound represented by "ы" does not exist in English)

If you were to say in russian, 'i am in crimea' the end of the word would change, so you would say 'я в крыму' or Ja v krimu.

Im assuming thats where it comes from in this case. Russian grammar is pretty complicated though once you know the rules its easy enough most of the time.

Yeah auslander also calls the rebel militia the 'opolchensa', which sounds Serbian or summit.
A militia is called a opolcheniye; ополчение.
And when you refer to them in the third person (they, the militia), the word you want to use is opolchentsy; ополченцы

Ivan the Colorado wrote:http://www.newsweek.com/tatar-activists-plan-extend-their-blockade-crimea-sea-400018

Basically asking the FSB or the Black Sea Fleet and the rest of the Russian military to fvck them up. Russia is the only one that controls the Kerch Strait. Stalin should have murdered them all.

Murdered the Crimean Tatars? Or the Ukrainians?
Hitler tried to murder a whole people. Didn't work despite their utter defencelessness, and his own huge resources. And good thing too, it was the greatest crime attempted by mankind thus far and not something to be emulated.

Stupid comments aside, you do realize it's just a bunch of paid-off sell-outs employed by Kiev that are organizing this, do you not? And most of the people doing it don't even seem to be Crimean Tatars. They number a few dozen in total.

Literary, +99% of the Crimean Tatar population has nothing to do with any of these 'blockades'

It will however, most certainly be a source of great amusement (assuming they don't decide to go all Allah Akbar on us) to see how they plan to stop a ferry crossing in Russian waters between two Russian ports.
They must think that Russia is like the Ukraine or something, where laws are there just for show and that anybody with a gun can simply do whatever they want.
Boy are they in for a surprise.

flamming_python wrote:

Rodinazombie wrote:

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:auslander, why you call Crimea "Krimu"? In Russian it's Крым (Krim - the sound represented by "ы" does not exist in English)

If you were to say in russian, 'i am in crimea' the end of the word would change, so you would say 'я в крыму' or Ja v krimu.

Im assuming thats where it comes from in this case. Russian grammar is pretty complicated though once you know the rules its easy enough most of the time.

Yeah auslander also calls the rebel militia the 'opolchensa', which sounds Serbian or summit.
A militia is called a opolcheniye; ополчение.
And when you refer to them in the third person (they, the militia), the word you want to use is opolchentsy; ополченцы

We dont have real word that describes what ополчение is in Serbian. Croatians have word "domobrani" which would be close i suppose. Closest word we have is "dobrovoljci", literally volonteurs. Or "Paravojne formacije" - paramilitary units. Its probably just his way to adapt Russian words to english and alphabet.

Militarov wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

Rodinazombie wrote:

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:auslander, why you call Crimea "Krimu"? In Russian it's Крым (Krim - the sound represented by "ы" does not exist in English)

If you were to say in russian, 'i am in crimea' the end of the word would change, so you would say 'я в крыму' or Ja v krimu.

Im assuming thats where it comes from in this case. Russian grammar is pretty complicated though once you know the rules its easy enough most of the time.

Yeah auslander also calls the rebel militia the 'opolchensa', which sounds Serbian or summit.
A militia is called a opolcheniye; ополчение.
And when you refer to them in the third person (they, the militia), the word you want to use is opolchentsy; ополченцы

We dont have real word that describes what ополчение is in Serbian. Croatians have word "domobrani" which would be close i suppose. Closest word we have is "dobrovoljci", literally volonteurs. Or "Paravojne formacije" - paramilitary units. Its probably just his way to adapt Russian words to english and alphabet.

I meant the conjugation of the nouns; opolchensa sounds more Serbo-Croatian than Russian (where it would be opolchentsy. But then again I know nothing of this language so just ignore me.

flamming_python wrote:

Militarov wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

Rodinazombie wrote:

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:auslander, why you call Crimea "Krimu"? In Russian it's Крым (Krim - the sound represented by "ы" does not exist in English)

If you were to say in russian, 'i am in crimea' the end of the word would change, so you would say 'я в крыму' or Ja v krimu.

Im assuming thats where it comes from in this case. Russian grammar is pretty complicated though once you know the rules its easy enough most of the time.

Yeah auslander also calls the rebel militia the 'opolchensa', which sounds Serbian or summit.
A militia is called a opolcheniye; ополчение.
And when you refer to them in the third person (they, the militia), the word you want to use is opolchentsy; ополченцы

We dont have real word that describes what ополчение is in Serbian. Croatians have word "domobrani" which would be close i suppose. Closest word we have is "dobrovoljci", literally volonteurs. Or "Paravojne formacije" - paramilitary units. Its probably just his way to adapt Russian words to english and alphabet.

I meant the conjugation of the nouns; opolchensa sounds more Serbo-Croatian than Russian. But then again I know nothing of this language so just ignore me.

Ah you mean the word itself as he constructed it reminds more of Serbian than Russian. That sure, yeah i agree.

flamming_python wrote:

Ivan the Colorado wrote:http://www.newsweek.com/tatar-activists-plan-extend-their-blockade-crimea-sea-400018

Basically asking the FSB or the Black Sea Fleet and the rest of the Russian military to fvck them up. Russia is the only one that controls the Kerch Strait. Stalin should have murdered them all.

Murdered the Crimean Tatars? Or the Ukrainians?
Hitler tried to murder a whole people. Didn't work despite their utter defencelessness, and his own huge resources. And good thing too, it was the greatest crime attempted by mankind thus far and not something to be emulated.

Stupid comments aside, you do realize it's just a bunch of paid-off sell-outs employed by Kiev that are organizing this, do you not? And most of the people doing it don't even seem to be Crimean Tatars. They number a few dozen in total.

Literary, +99% of the Crimean Tatar population has nothing to do with any of these 'blockades'

It will however, most certainly be a source of great amusement (assuming they don't decide to go all Allah Akbar on us) to see how they plan to stop a ferry crossing in Russian waters between two Russian ports.
They must think that Russia is like the Ukraine or something, where laws are there just for show and that anybody with a gun can simply do whatever they want.
Boy are they in for a surprise.

You should realize a lot of what I say has no substance behind it.

Ivan the Colorado wrote:http://www.newsweek.com/tatar-activists-plan-extend-their-blockade-crimea-sea-400018

Basically asking the FSB or the Black Sea Fleet and the rest of the Russian military to fvck them up. Russia is the only one that controls the Kerch Strait. Stalin should have murdered them all.

I didn't sleep because of this.