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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  GarryB on Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:44 am

    Enough economics BS on this thread.

    This is the thread about the Fulcrum.

    Russia can certainly afford to have MiG-35s... even unify their designs with the MiG-29K2 if needed to save money... the land based models having fixed wings and the sea going variety having folding wings.

    The Flanker is a nice aircraft but few mention when it has full fuel tanks (internal that is) its flight performance is limited in terms of gs it can pull safely... this means it cannot take off with full tanks and then go straight into a dog fight.

    Not a hugely serious problem, but just proves it is not perfect either.

    with inflight refuelling the MiG can fly as far as a Flanker does if it needs to, but most of the time it would not need to.


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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Isos on Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:28 pm

    Mig-35 with new targeting pod and R-73/74 missiles.

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    https://www.facebook.com/MikoyanGurevichFulcrum/

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    Post  Cyberspec on Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:01 am

    Isos wrote:Mig-35 with new targeting pod and R-73/74 missiles.

    Great...thanks for posting Smile

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    Post  Austin on Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:21 am

    Some information on Mig-35 AESA and R-77M from Swifts of Nile in AFM Oct issue

    Weapons and systems


    In terms of combat capability, the EAF MiG-29M/M2s have a major point of difference with the ‘ultimate’ MiG-35. The Egyptian jets lack the Zhuk-AE active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar,
    after its manufacturer, Phazotron-NIIR, delayed the launch of quantity production.

    The Zhuk-AE is an X-band radar that can track up to 30 targets and attack the six highest-priority targets simultaneously.

    Early versions of the radar were installed and tested on the first MiG-35 prototypes but their demonstrated 87-99-mile (140-160km) target detection range did not meet the needs of the Russian defence ministry. Phazotron-NIIR is currently working on a more powerful variant using a greater number of transmit/receive modules to provide a maximum detection range of 155-174 miles (250-280km).

    When Egypt ordered its new MiGs, the Zhuk-AE was still under development. Furthermore, the AESA-equipped R-77M air-to-air missile (AAM) with a range of 121 miles (195km) was also unavailable.

    The MiG-29M/M2s ordered by Egypt were therefore to be provided with less advanced avionics and weapon systems and the alternative Zhuk-MF radar. This is based on the Zhuk-ME as installed
    on advanced Russian Aerospace Forces and Russian Navy MiG-29s and proven in combat during the Russian military intervention in Syria. The Zhuk-ME has a maximum detection range of 68-75 miles
    (110-120km) against an airborne target with a radar cross-section of 54sq ft (5m2). As installed in the MiG-29M/M2, the radar provides a genuine beyond-visual-range (BVR) engagement capability using R-77-1 active-radar-homing (AA-12 Adder) AAMs.
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    Re: MiG-29/ΜiG-35 Fulcrum: News

    Post  Isos on Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:41 pm

    120 km against a 5 square meter target is pathetic. They really should have develop the AE faster and gave it to egyptian mig.

    195 km for new r 77 is just perfect. Hope we will see them in the near future and test them in Syria.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:12 am

    The MiG will be an interceptor/fighter so being able to track targets at 120km with radar is perfectly adequate.

    If operating with ground radar or airborne radar then ti will operate with its own radar off.

    I am sure if Egypt want AESA radar and are prepared to pay for it they will get it.


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    Post  Isos on Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:38 am

    GarryB wrote:The MiG will be an interceptor/fighter so being able to track targets at 120km with radar is perfectly adequate.

    If operating with ground radar or airborne radar then ti will operate with its own radar off.

    I am sure if Egypt want AESA radar and are prepared to pay for it they will get it.

    In russian army they are used as interceptors. In egyptian or in smaller countries it needs to be multirole. Egypt doesn't have money, Saoudis are paying for their stuff I think.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:01 pm

    Isos wrote:

    In russian army they are used as interceptors. In egyptian or in smaller countries it needs to be multirole. Egypt doesn't have money, Saoudis are paying for their stuff I think.

    in current state of Russo-Saudi relations is is even more likely Egypt financing though Smile
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:00 pm

    The cold war is over... Russia wants good relations with all countries of the world but they are not a charity.

    If Egypt pays for MiG-29s with 120km range radars then that is what they will get.

    if they want better then they will have to pay more.

    Who else will sell them such things and then not demand control of them?

    Even if the US sold them F-35s they would not actually belong to Egypt... ask me about our Skyhawks, or Venezuela about their F-16s...


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    Post  Isos on Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:37 am

    GarryB wrote:The cold war is over... Russia wants good relations with all countries of the world but they are not a charity.

    If Egypt pays for MiG-29s with 120km range radars then that is what they will get.

    if they want better then they will have to pay more.

    Who else will sell them such things and then not demand control of them?

    Even if the US sold them F-35s they would not actually belong to Egypt... ask me about our Skyhawks, or Venezuela about their F-16s...

    Of course money is always a big part of the equation.

    Do you know if Venezuela allowed RuAF to look at their F-16 when Hugo Chavez was the president ?? He was so close to Putin and so against US.
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    Post  Isos on Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:59 pm

    New picture of Eyptian Mig-29/35. We can the glass has a yellow coulor like F-22. Probably new materials for stealth.


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    Post  GarryB on Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:47 am

    The Russians might have looked at Venezuelas F-16s but I doubt there would be much to learn... they were old model downgraded A/B models for export to latin and south America.... a step up from F-5s I guess...

    The gold colour of the cockpit canopy is gold.

    It absorbs radio waves coming in and going out... so it has a practical use and is not just gold plating.... hehehehe see what I did there?




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