The Situation in the Ukraine. #13

Polish president says Victory Day Parade in Moscow "symbol of unstable world"

WARSAW, May 3. /TASS/. Poland’s President Bronislaw Komorowski has described Sunday the Victory Day Parade due to take place in Moscow on May 9 as "a symbol of instability."

Poland should remember the lessons of history and not give in to a misconception that nothing is threatening the country. "Soon, on May 9, Red Square in Moscow will turn into an armored square. There will be those units that recently attacked neighboring Ukraine in front of us and the whole world, demonstrating their force. It has been a long time since a military conflict was as close to the Polish borders as now. One should bear in mind that in this military demonstration, demonstration of force, we are talking not about history, but about the present and future. It is the image of today’s unstable and restless world. In in such conditions, we need to strengthen our Polish security," Komorowski said.

"Poland’s geopolitical position has always been difficult because we are located between the East and the West. That is why we should remember our painful historical experience and strengthen our force, relying on agreement and unity where it is possible," he added. "Today’s world brings threats, and that is why further modernization of the country is so important, along with strengthening ties with the Western world by expanding European integration and actively participating in NATO," he noted.

AlfaT8 wrote:

Polish president says Victory Day Parade in Moscow "symbol of unstable world"

WARSAW, May 3. /TASS/. Poland’s President Bronislaw Komorowski has described Sunday the Victory Day Parade due to take place in Moscow on May 9 as "a symbol of instability."

Poland should remember the lessons of history and not give in to a misconception that nothing is threatening the country. "Soon, on May 9, Red Square in Moscow will turn into an armored square. There will be those units that recently attacked neighboring Ukraine in front of us and the whole world, demonstrating their force. It has been a long time since a military conflict was as close to the Polish borders as now. One should bear in mind that in this military demonstration, demonstration of force, we are talking not about history, but about the present and future. It is the image of today’s unstable and restless world. In in such conditions, we need to strengthen our Polish security," Komorowski said.

"Poland’s geopolitical position has always been difficult because we are located between the East and the West. That is why we should remember our painful historical experience and strengthen our force, relying on agreement and unity where it is possible," he added. "Today’s world brings threats, and that is why further modernization of the country is so important, along with strengthening ties with the Western world by expanding European integration and actively participating in NATO," he noted.

Are these people f#cking insane or what?

Quick to remember the tragedies caused by the USSR, but at the same time complete and total memory loss of the atrocities caused by the Third reich.

Perhaps the USSR should have let the Nazis take all of Poland.

Neutrality wrote:Why was the previous topic locked?

Anyway, regarding the words of Polish president it's just silly butthurt whining about Soviet mistreatment while reminding the Russians of their past. So maybe the Russians need to start acting all butthurt about the invasions Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth too? Oh that's right. I forgot Polish history started right after World War II.

George1 wrote:when it reaches some number of posts (990) we lock it and start a new one

whir wrote:

George1 wrote:when it reaches some number of posts (990) we lock it and start a new one

If it can be done then put at least a number on the new one to give it a sense of continuity, link the old thread in the first post and the last entry  in the second, it would be much appreaciated, thanks in advance.

What could you say about the recent statement by Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko on the recent de-escalation of the conflict in Donbass? Is this really happening? Will Kiev fully comply with the Minsk agreements?  We hear continuous reports that Ukraine is building up its military strength with Western help. Will you, please, comment on the EU and US roles in this respect.

Poroshenko is saying what he is supposed to say, but even he doesn’t seem to believe it. First, Ukraine does not conceal the fact that it will only accept one end to the Donbass problem – the surrender of the Donetsk and Lugansk people’s republics. However, to achieve this, Kiev must win militarily, which it obviously cannot do no matter how many people it drafts or how much equipment its army receives. It cannot win even with Western supplies, which aren’t expected in the near future anyway. To sum up, Kiev is unable to win but must continue the war because the Kiev regime cannot exist without it. The war is delaying the inevitable socio-economic collapse of the country and justifies the terrorist methods used to run it. This is the only thing allowing the regime to pretend that there is national unity and that the situation in the country is under control.................(continued)

The leader of the Ukrainian Radical Party, Oleg Lyashko demanded by Germany, "to pay for historical accounts of the Ukrainians and Ukraine". This was written on his page on Facebook , commenting on plans for German Chancellor Angela Merkel to visit Moscow on May 10 to jointly with Russian President Vladimir Putin to commemorate those killed in World War II..........(continued)

@Hermius1 wrote:

Novorosinform via Google Translate wrote:Кишиневе проходит митинг против лидеров прозападной коалиции
Chisinau hosts meeting against the leaders of the pro-Western coalition
Today at 17:00

Chisinau hosts meeting against the leaders of the pro-Western coalition
More than 10 thousand people on Sunday blocked the movement of vehicles on the main avenue of the capital of Moldova. The protesters demanded the resignation of the leaders of the ruling pro-European coalition, who are accused of corruption.

In the morning, demonstrators marched along the main avenue in Chisinau, after which the central square of the meeting began. "Thieves in the government - in jail!", "Down with corrupt officials!" - The protesters chant.

The action was initiated Civic Platform movement "Dignity and Justice", whose leaders demand immediate investigation of high-profile corruption scandals, including the theft of more than $ 1 billion of the three banks. The rally takes place peacefully, the police action does not preclude the demonstrators.

Speakers at the rally leaders of the movement have called for the resignation of Attorney General, Director of the National Centre for the Fight against Corruption, Director of the Customs Service, the heads of the Supreme Court of Justice, Court of Appeal of Chisinau and the Council for the Protection of Competition, which is suspected of corruption.

"Without the resignation of data structures and real reform society does not know who is guilty of stealing money from the banks," - said co-chair of the Civic Platform Angela Arama. "If they do not go away, the next protest action, we set up tents around the parliament and the prosecutor's office", - promised another activist, writer and presenter Konstantin Cheianu.

Anatoly Shary wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:Clown show in Kiev is really getting desperate... I thought that Nazis were supposed to be "liberators from Soviet occupation"

Lyashko demanded payment for the death of German Ukrainians during the war

GoogleTranslate:

The leader of the Ukrainian Radical Party, Oleg Lyashko demanded by Germany, "to pay for historical accounts of the Ukrainians and Ukraine". This was written on his page on Facebook , commenting on plans for German Chancellor Angela Merkel to visit Moscow on May 10 to jointly with Russian President Vladimir Putin to commemorate those killed in World War II..........(continued)

Ghoster wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:Clown show in Kiev is really getting desperate... I thought that Nazis were supposed to be "liberators from Soviet occupation"

Lyashko demanded payment for the death of German Ukrainians during the war

GoogleTranslate:

The leader of the Ukrainian Radical Party, Oleg Lyashko demanded by Germany, "to pay for historical accounts of the Ukrainians and Ukraine". This was written on his page on Facebook , commenting on plans for German Chancellor Angela Merkel to visit Moscow on May 10 to jointly with Russian President Vladimir Putin to commemorate those killed in World War II..........(continued)

Lyashko sums up the clowns in Kiev pretty well. A real mental case.

whir wrote:
I have seen many eccentric tattoos in my life but... mother of God, and this is supposed to be the head of the Kiev Oblast regional police?

Neutrality wrote:Head of police? What the actual fuck.

Jerusalem Post wrote:Kiev regional police head accused of neo-Nazi ties

If need be, Ukrainian chief rabbi says he’ll call on president to sack interior minister over appointment.

By SAM SOKOL \  11/12/2014 07:5
The newly appointed police chief for the Ukrainian province in which Kiev is located came under fire on Monday after it was alleged that he had past ties with a neo-Nazi organization.

Vadim Troyan was appointed to head the Kiev Oblast regional police on October 31 by Interior Minister Arsen Avakov, who feted him on Facebook as a respected commander whose like would form “the basis of a new national police force.”

Prior to his appointment he was deputy commander of the volunteer Azov Battalion, which has been engaged in combat operations against pro-Russian separatists in the country’s east. Kiev, while within the district, is an independent jurisdiction.

Troyan, 35, who was involved in the liberation of Mariupol and was awarded Ukraine’s Order of Bogdan Khmelnitsky, is one of many military men climbing the ladder of political and economic success in a country eager to reward those it perceives as heroes in its war against what is widely seen as Russian aggression. Kiev and the West blame Moscow for funding and equipping the rebels, a charge the Kremlin denies. Continue reading

whir wrote:
I have seen many eccentric tattoos in my life but... mother of God, and this is supposed to be the head of the Kiev Oblast regional police?

BKP wrote:

Ghoster wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:Clown show in Kiev is really getting desperate... I thought that Nazis were supposed to be "liberators from Soviet occupation"

Lyashko demanded payment for the death of German Ukrainians during the war

GoogleTranslate:

The leader of the Ukrainian Radical Party, Oleg Lyashko demanded by Germany, "to pay for historical accounts of the Ukrainians and Ukraine". This was written on his page on Facebook , commenting on plans for German Chancellor Angela Merkel to visit Moscow on May 10 to jointly with Russian President Vladimir Putin to commemorate those killed in World War II..........(continued)

Lyashko sums up the clowns in Kiev pretty well. A real mental case.

Every day I have to wrap my head around the fact that the "West" installed a pack of reconstituted Nazi goons right on Russia's border. Then they sell it to the rubes as a "budding democracy" knowing full well that enough dummies will buy it.

whir wrote:Little Odessa (aka Brighton Beach)

kvs wrote:The link I posted before supposedly of the MH17 crash site is actually that of a SU-25.   Sorry for jumping to conclusions.