The Situation in the Ukraine. #3

magnumcromagnon wrote:Here's an image relating to the recent "pro-volunteer" rally in Lviv/Lvov:

To be honest after seeing what the oligarchs in Ukraine have done to the economy in the last 20 years, I rather have Ponomayrev the mayor of slovyansk that runs a soap factory and have golden teeth rule my town than people like Kolomojskij.  

Михаил Добкин: В ближайшее время Политсовет ПАРТИИ РЕГИОНОВ примет решение о дальнейшем участии в избирательной кампании

В ближайшее время Политсовет ПАРТИИ РЕГИОНОВ примет решение о дальнейшем участии в избирательной кампании. Об этом в ходе пресс-конференции в Харькове во вторник, 29 апреля, заявил кандидат на пост Президента Украины от ПАРТИИ РЕГИОНОВ Михаил Добкин.
«То, что произошло в Херсоне, на сегодняшний момент окончательно убедило меня и моих товарищей в руководстве ПАРТИИ РЕГИОНОВ, что определенная группа экстремистов, хорошо организованная и оплаченная, передвигается за мной по разным регионам как за кандидатом в Президенты Украины. Они имеют устойчивый костяк внутри, к ним присоединяются представители тех регионов, куда я приезжаю, но цель у них одна – физически, информационно не допустить встреч с избирателями и фактически сорвать ход избирательной кампании. Их задача – сорвать выборы. Они делают все для того, чтобы один из кандидатов в президенты снялся с выборов и заявил о том, что выборы в Украине провести невозможно, потому что условия у кандидатов абсолютно неравные. Однозначно идет сегодня работа на срыв избирательной кампании», - сказал Михаил Добкин.
По его мнению, все указывает на то, что это спланированные действия одного из кандидатов в Президенты Украины, который не способен победить на этих выборах, но сняться сам не может: «Вот он и заказывает, и оплачивает ту «музыку», которая заставит сняться и сорвать эти выборы кого-нибудь другого, чтобы перенести их на более поздний срок или вообще отменить. Чтобы еще больше запутать и без того запутанную ситуацию внутри нашей страны».
Однако сегодня сняться с выборов – это значит подыграть тем, кто не хочет стабильной ситуации в нашей стране. «Поэтому мы будем детально изучать ситуацию, просчитывать все варианты и последствия нашего решения, но оставляем за собой право принять любое решение», - подчеркнул кандидат в Президенты Украины.
- See more at: http://partyofregions.ua/news/535fa873f620d2f70b0001c2#sthash.vT3BZxnW.dpuf

Flyingdutchman wrote:Hmmmm..... Wont surprise me if the pro russian forces just make this up about the nato spies ....dont trust them, and dont believe them at all.

Flyingdutchman wrote:Hmmmm..... Wont surprise me if the pro russian forces just make this up about the nato spies ....dont trust them, and dont believe them at all.

Austrian OSCE member wrote:On Friday evening in Vienna, on the first program of the Austrian television, Claus Neukirch, a high-ranking official of the OSCE, said this was not our group, not our visit, we were not the ones who did it. This is also admitted on the Deutsche Welle. Deutsche Welle is the international TV and radio of the German Foreign Ministry.

Flyingdutchman wrote:Hmmmm..... Wont surprise me if the pro russian forces just make this up about the nato spies ....dont trust them, and dont believe them at all.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Flyingdutchman wrote:Hmmmm..... Wont surprise me if the pro russian forces just make this up about the nato spies ....dont trust them, and dont believe them at all.

Obviously you missed my post with the image of OSCE's official twitter page, were they debunked the claim that those were OSCE members, and they already pointed out that those were active duty NATO military officers.:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Flyingdutchman wrote:Hmmmm..... Wont surprise me if the pro russian forces just make this up about the nato spies ....dont trust them, and dont believe them at all.

Obviously you missed my post with the image of OSCE's official twitter page, were they debunked the claim that those were OSCE members, and they already pointed out that those were active duty NATO military officers.:

TASS wrote:
US cares not about Ukraine, seeks to show it decides how things must go - FM
“These are outlived mentality and logic", Lavrov said

SANTIAGO, April 30 /ITAR-TASS/. The United States does not care about Ukraine and its future, but it is seeking to show that things must go the way Washington says, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said after talks with his Chilean colleague Heraldo Munoz on Wednesday, April 30.

“If the crisis in Ukraine is seen by your agency as a Russian-American confrоntation, that’s sad,” Lavrov said, replying to a question from a Western journalist. “Unfortunately, the information machine of our Western colleague is running in high gear. Such a deflection of the public opinion and the Americans want to achieve it not because they care about Ukraine but because they are seeking to prove that things must go everywhere and all the time only as they decide,” the minister said.

“These are outlived mentality and logic. Americans won’t go far with it and they are already marking time. Hence the sanctions, brought about by their anger and largely senseless. We are not going to copy them and want to give our partners a chance to calm down at this point. And then we’ll see. If their unfounded sermons to Russia continue, if attempts are made to use economic levers against us, then we will take a closer look at the situation,” Lavrov said.

“Instead of getting carried away by sanctions, our overseas colleagues should better be disciplining those whom they have brought to power - those who have proclaimed themselves the winners of a democratic revolution by overthrowing a legitimate president and breaking the agreement of February 21. The parliament has not fulfilled any of those obligations and is leaning on a coalition that includes downright radicals and extremists who were condemned, including by the European Union, in 2012 when the Svoboda party was for the first time elected to parliament. The Europeans shyly prefer not to remember that now and are basically cooperating with these people,” the minister said.

macedonian wrote:So how many times have I said that I really and truly respect Sergey Lavrov?!
Can't think of a better FM of any country, ever!
Nevermind...
Here's an excellent reply to a foreign journalist, given in Chile (of all countries):
It's from TASS, but I'll paste it in full

TASS wrote:
US cares not about Ukraine, seeks to show it decides how things must go - FM
“These are outlived mentality and logic", Lavrov said

SANTIAGO, April 30 /ITAR-TASS/. The United States does not care about Ukraine and its future, but it is seeking to show that things must go the way Washington says, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said after talks with his Chilean colleague Heraldo Munoz on Wednesday, April 30.

“If the crisis in Ukraine is seen by your agency as a Russian-American confrоntation, that’s sad,” Lavrov said, replying to a question from a Western journalist. “Unfortunately, the information machine of our Western colleague is running in high gear. Such a deflection of the public opinion and the Americans want to achieve it not because they care about Ukraine but because they are seeking to prove that things must go everywhere and all the time only as they decide,” the minister said.

“These are outlived mentality and logic. Americans won’t go far with it and they are already marking time. Hence the sanctions, brought about by their anger and largely senseless. We are not going to copy them and want to give our partners a chance to calm down at this point. And then we’ll see. If their unfounded sermons to Russia continue, if attempts are made to use economic levers against us, then we will take a closer look at the situation,” Lavrov said.

“Instead of getting carried away by sanctions, our overseas colleagues should better be disciplining those whom they have brought to power - those who have proclaimed themselves the winners of a democratic revolution by overthrowing a legitimate president and breaking the agreement of February 21. The parliament has not fulfilled any of those obligations and is leaning on a coalition that includes downright radicals and extremists who were condemned, including by the European Union, in 2012 when the Svoboda party was for the first time elected to parliament. The Europeans shyly prefer not to remember that now and are basically cooperating with these people,” the minister said.

What an effin' move!

          The novel deals with the life of the Cossacks living in the Don River valley during the early 20th century, probably around 1912, just prior to World War I. The plot revolves around the Melekhov family of Tatarsk, who are descendants of a cossack who, to the horror of many, took a Turkish captive as a wife during the Crimean War. Accused of witchcraft by Melekhov's superstitious neighbors, they attempt to kill her but are fought off by her husband. Their descendants, the son and grandsons, who are the protagonists of the story, are therefore often nicknamed "Turks". Nevertheless, they command a high amount of respect among people in Tatarsk.[citation needed]

The second eldest son, Grigori Panteleevich Melekhov, is a promising young soldier who falls in love with Aksinia, the wife of Stepan Astakhov, a family friend. There is no love between them and Stepan regularly beats her. Grigori and Aksinia's romance and elopement raises a feud between her husband and his family. The outcome of this romance is the focus of the plot as well as the impending World and Civil Wars which draw up the best young Cossack men for what will be two of Russia's bloodiest wars. The action moves to the Austro-Hungarian front, where Grigory ends up saving Stepan's life, but that doesn't end the feud. Grigory, at his father's insistence, takes a wife, Natalya, but still loves Aksinia. The book deals not only with the struggles and suffering of the Cossacks but also the landscape itself, which is vividly brought to life    

macedonian wrote:So how many times have I said that I really and truly respect Sergey Lavrov?!
Can't think of a better FM of any country, ever!
Nevermind...
Here's an excellent reply to a foreign journalist, given in Chile (of all countries):
It's from TASS, but I'll paste it in full

TASS wrote:
US cares not about Ukraine, seeks to show it decides how things must go - FM
“These are outlived mentality and logic", Lavrov said

SANTIAGO, April 30 /ITAR-TASS/. The United States does not care about Ukraine and its future, but it is seeking to show that things must go the way Washington says, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said after talks with his Chilean colleague Heraldo Munoz on Wednesday, April 30.

“If the crisis in Ukraine is seen by your agency as a Russian-American confrоntation, that’s sad,” Lavrov said, replying to a question from a Western journalist. “Unfortunately, the information machine of our Western colleague is running in high gear. Such a deflection of the public opinion and the Americans want to achieve it not because they care about Ukraine but because they are seeking to prove that things must go everywhere and all the time only as they decide,” the minister said.

“These are outlived mentality and logic. Americans won’t go far with it and they are already marking time. Hence the sanctions, brought about by their anger and largely senseless. We are not going to copy them and want to give our partners a chance to calm down at this point. And then we’ll see. If their unfounded sermons to Russia continue, if attempts are made to use economic levers against us, then we will take a closer look at the situation,” Lavrov said.

“Instead of getting carried away by sanctions, our overseas colleagues should better be disciplining those whom they have brought to power - those who have proclaimed themselves the winners of a democratic revolution by overthrowing a legitimate president and breaking the agreement of February 21. The parliament has not fulfilled any of those obligations and is leaning on a coalition that includes downright radicals and extremists who were condemned, including by the European Union, in 2012 when the Svoboda party was for the first time elected to parliament. The Europeans shyly prefer not to remember that now and are basically cooperating with these people,” the minister said.

What an effin' move!

sepheronx wrote:IMF approved the $17B loan.

It is to help pay off their previous loan from IMF!

LOL