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    Russia Offers Su-30MKI Technology Transfer Under ‘Make-in-India’

    Post  Pinto on Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:33 pm

    Russia Offers Su-30MKI Technology Transfer Under ‘Make-in-India’


    Russia has expressed willingness to transfer technology of 332 components of the Sukhoi Su-30MKI fighter aircraft under the ‘Make-in-India’ program.

    These components, also called line replacement units (LRUs) refer to both critical and non-critical components and fall into four major heads such as Radio and Radar; Electrical & Electronics System; Mechanical System and Instrument System.

    India’s Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) which manufactures the aircraft under licence from its Russian arms exporter, Rosoboronexport, has opened talks with the latter and the Sukhoi aircraft manufacturer, Irkut Corp., to enable Indian industries to manufacture the LRUs through transfer of technology (TOT) from the relevant Russian manufacturers of the components, the Times of India reported on Friday.

    Russia and India have commenced discussion since last August on further TOT for the Sukhoi Su-30MKI under the ‘Make-in-India’ program to enable greater participation from the Indian private industry in defence manufacture, the report added. India will receive the full complement of 272 Su-30MKI aircraft by the end of next month. While the number of aircraft with the Indian air force increases, so also does the need for maintenance, repair and overhaul. With a planned service life of 30 years, the requirement for LRUs will only increase.

    Vitaly Borodich, senior vice-president (military aviation), IRKUT Corp had told defenseworld.net during an interview earlier this year, “Of the 272 aircraft contracted by India, 222 aircraft will have been co-produced in India with HAL as our main partner.”

    Borodich had said that India (HAL) has mastered licence production to the extent that certain critical raw material is sourced locally.

    http://www.defenseworld.net/news/14723/Russia_Offers_Su_30MKI_Technology_Transfer_Under____Make_in_India___#.VlxBreP4p_l

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    India, Russia to sign pact on spares for Su 30 fleet, availability could go up to 75%

    Post  Pinto on Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:29 pm

    MOSCOW: India and Russia are set to sign a pact for quick delivery of spare parts for the Su 30 MKI fleet that would ensure that the aircraft is available for more combat missions - a key focus area for Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar who has working on reducing the amount of time frontline fighters are grounded due to technical issues.

    The long term spares agreement will provide for an express process for the delivery of spares for the fleet for the next five years. Unlike in the past where each spare part had to be ordered separately with a lengthy process involving license, customs clearance and bank guarantees, the contract will ensure that spare parts start getting manufactured within a month of the air force raising a requirement.

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    "A delegation from the Indian defence ministry is expected in the second half of December and we hope to have a positive decision and sign the contract at the soonest," Valery V Chishchevoy, Marketing Director of Sukhoi told ET.

    While in the past, the bureaucratic processes led to a 12 month time period between the time a requirement was raised and the spare part would start to get manufactured, this time will now be cut to 30 days.

    Chishchevoy said that the main purpose of the new agreement is to increase the reliability and availability of the Su 30 fleet to 60 percent and higher. The availability rate is the number of aircraft in the entire fleet that are available for combat missions at any given time. At present, just over 50 percent of India's Su 30 fleet - 272 of the fighters have been ordered - are available for combat missions as the rest are either undergoing repairs or grounded due to delay in the supply of spare parts.

    Defence Minister Parrikar has told ET in the past that his aim is to increase this availability rate to 65 percent and above so that the available resources of the air force are used optimally. The Su 30 MKI fleet is the cutting edge of the airforce and would be it largest in terms of numbers of a modern fighter jet.

    There is a possibility that the availability of the fleet could touch the magical figure of 75 percent. Chishchevoy said that the Russian proposal ten years ago when the fleet was young was to appoint Sukhoi as the single supplier responsible for the serviceability of the fleet and 75 percent would be `guaranteed

    "Under the new contract, after the receipt of a request from the Indian air force, the spare part wil be delivered to the air force warehouse within 4-12 months, depending on the time it takes to manufacture the part. As of now, 12 months are required for just to start the production, this will reduce to 30 days," Viacheslav Yu Lozan, After Sale Center Director, Sukhoi said.

    (This journalist is in Russia on the invitation of the United Aircraft Company)

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    Re: Indian Su-30MKI: News

    Post  aksha on Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:49 am


    IAF Sukhoi Su-30MKI Engine Burnout Issue Sorted
    http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/sukhoi-engine-burnout-issue-sorted-hal/44053.html

    wonder what modifications wre done.



    Hindustan Aeronautics Limited on Thursday said the issue of frequent mid-air engine burnouts of the India’s front line fighter jet, the Sukhoi-30MKI, has been corrected.



    HAL, a Ministry of Defence owned company, is the Indian integrator and producer of the Russian origin twin engines fighter – the main stay of the Indian Air Force (IAF) in its preparation for a simultaneous two-front war scenario with Pakistan and China.


    The Sukhoi-30MKI faced repeated mid-air engine failures between 2012 and 2013, after which the IAF asked the Russians to rectify the problem in the fighter jet.


    The Tribune had first highlighted the issue in a news report on July 21.


    The Sukhoi engine was ordered to be modified under new specifications laid down by its Russian manufacturers to fix mid-air engine trouble in its fleet.


    In a press conference at the three-day event of Aero India in Bangalore, HAL’s MiG division managing director S Subramanyam today said: “All modifications have been successfully carried out and this included a more frequent oil changes for proper lubrication of that moving parts.”


    Subramanyam said the modified engines have been tested to their limits and since June 2014 there have been no mid-air engine failure.



    Sources said the modification will be carried out on 400 engines of the twin-engine aircraft, besides installation of some spares for emergencies. The Russians will install modified engines on the next lot of 72 jets, sources said.


    The modification on existing engines has been carried out at HAL’s Sukhoi engine plant in Orissa.


    The refit will be carried out in batches over the next 18-24 months.


    The Russians had assured India that the modifications will eliminate the problem of mid-air engine failure.



    . Since the engines powering the jet are still being produced, there is a scope for modification.


    The IAF studied each failure in detail between 2012 and 2013.


    The instances of single-engine Su-30MKI landings were very high during the period. This was lowering the operational ability of the fleet, besides raising questions about war readiness.


    The Su-30MKI is a twin-engine aircraft and can land even if one of its engines fails mid-air. But this limits pilot’s ability to attack or withdraw during a conflict.

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    BrahMos to be test-fired from Su-30MKI in 2016; heaviest-ever missile flown on that jet: Sudhir Mishra

    Post  Pinto on Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:24 am

    NEW DELHI: India has always stood out for its prowess in developing missiles and with the upcoming test-launch of the BrahMos missile from Su-30MKI fighter jet, the country is all set to create history. "The day BrahMos is successfully test-fired from Su-30MKI, the whole aeronautics community would be saluting us for achieving a very, very difficult milestone in missile and aeronautical technology," says MD & CEO of BrahMos Aerospace Sudhir Kumar Mishra.


    In an interview with Economictimes.com, Sudhir Mishra said, "BrahMos is a very heavy missile and such class of missiles has never been integrated with Su-30MKI." "The launch of BrahMos from Su-30MKI comprises several phases. Structural modifications have been carried out in the aircraft to integrate BrahMos on to it," explained Mishra.


    Around three-to-four varieties of missile will be flown on Su-30MKI to testify the integration. Dummy and technology missile tests will be carried out along with a pure drop test of the missile. Finally, in the fourth stage, the actual test of the missile would be against land and ship targets. "We should be able to reach to that stage in the second part of 2016," says Mishra.

    Mishra is confident that a single test (from Su-30 MI) against land and ship targets would be sufficient to testify the success of the integration.

    Asked about the underwater version of the BrahMos missile, which the Indian Navy is yet to test from a submarine, Mishra said, "BrahMos has been successfully flight tested from a pontoon. As a system, pontoon behaves very similar to a submarine. It has been demonstrated that the missile can be launched from sub-water." "We are in touch with many submarine manufacturers in Russia (Rubin Design Bureau), Germany (HDW) and Spain (Navantia). These submarine manufacturers have confirmed that it is possible to integrate BrahMos with their submarines. BrahMos is one of the credible weapons in the inventory of Indian Navy, so we are very confident that the test will happen in the future," he added.

    BrahMos Aerospace is a join venture between India's DRDO and Russia's NPO Mashinostroyenia. It was established in 1998, through an inter-governmental agreement. Both the Indian Army and Navy have inducted the supersonic cruise missile which has a range of 290-km. BrahMos flies at a speed of 2.8 Mach and carries a conventional warhead of up to 300 kg.

    According to Mishra, BrahMos Mark II or Hypersonic BrahMos will be able to fly much faster than the existing one. "There are some problems in making a pure hypersonic engine. As of now, we are conducting research completely in the theoretical region. My estimate is that we will be standing at the door of hypersonic engine in about three to four years, and pure hypersonic in about seven to eight years," he said.

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    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/50848753.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

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    Rebound To Russia: Amid Rafale Impasse, IAF To Buy 40 More Sukhois

    Post  Pinto on Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:53 am

    EXCLUSIVE

    Rebound To Russia: Amid Rafale Impasse, IAF To Buy 40 More Sukhois


    By Arming India Correspondent





    NEW DELHI, FEB. 10, 2016: The Indian Air Force (IAF) has initiated the procurement of a fresh lot of 40 additional Su-30MKI air dominance fighters at an estimated $75 million apiece, reliable diplomatic sources disclosed to Arming India.

    The procurement is being taken up as a follow-on order to the 222 Su-30MKI fighters already contracted to be made under transfer of technology at Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL)'s Nasik division.

    Along with the initial 50 aircraft acquired in a flyaway condition from Russia in the late 1990s, the latest increment of 40 aircraft will take the total number of Su-30MKIs ordered for the IAF to 312.

    This is a significant development running concurrently with the rapid headway in India-Russia talks on finalizing an agreement on an Indian commitment to the futuristic Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA). Arming India had on Feb. 3, 2016 exclusively reported a $3.7 billion deal-in-the-works for India's contribution to the development costs of the FGFA, and a further commitment to buy a minimum of 60 of these fighters.

    The rebound to Russia takes places amidst a continuing impasse in Indo-French price negotiations for the import of 36 Rafale fighter aircraft for the IAF.

    Observers also see these developments as a consequence of a determined rearguard action by Russia to protect its turf and reinforce its pre-eminence in the Indian defense aerospace market. Russia's traditional dominance in the Indian market has sought to have been challenged by the U.S., Israel and Europe in the last decade-and-a-half.

    The reliance on the Sukhois extends the life of the Su-30MKI assembly line in Nasik by another decade. An estimated 175 of the 222 Su-30 MKIs contracted to be assembled in India are reported to have already been rolled out. The roll-out rate is between 10 and 12 aircraft a year. Post the Sukhois, the Russian complex at HAL will be kept alive with the licensed manufacture of the FGFA.

    Interestingly, India and Russia are set to sign a deal for faster delivery of Sukhoi spares for the IAF. The Economic Times had reported in early December 2015, quoting Sukhoi Managing Director Valery V. Chishchevoy, that an Indian delegation was to deliberate on the spares supply deal later that month and the contract for the same would be signed at the earliest.

    The Sukhoi resurgence and the FGFA inroads will directly impact on the market for the Rafale in India, keen observers of defense trade reckon. Although the initial negotiations are for only 36 Rafale jets for the IAF, France is already pursuing a detailed roadmap to notch up sales even beyond the original Medium Multi Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) number of 126 and also pitch the Rafale for the Indian Navy, sources inform Arming India. The Russian jets, clearly, stand in the way of these plans.

    What is hard for a resource-strapped Indian defense establishment to ignore is that the Rafale is, reportedly, two-and-a-half times more expensive than the Rafale. The cost of 40 follow-on Sukhois to the Indian exchequer is about $3 billion, as against the reported $7 billion to $8 billion for the 36 Rafales.

    However, IAF chief Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha has made it clear on more than a couple of occasions that Sukhois aren't a replacement for the MMRCA, under which Rafale is the chosen one.

    http://armingindia.com/Rebound%20To%20Russia%20Amid%20Rafale%20Impasse,%20IAF%20To%20Buy%2040%20More%20Sukhois.htm

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    Re: Indian Su-30MKI: News

    Post  JohninMK on Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:34 pm

    Uparming the Sukhoi.

    The Indian government is expected to give final approval to a large defence systems deal with Israel within a month, covering equipment including Rafael Litening targeting pods and Spice 250 precision-guided bombs worth $500 million.

    According to sources related to the deal, the contract will include 164 Litening pods, likely to be carried by the Indian air force's Sukhoi Su-30 fighters. It will also include a large number of Spice 250s, add the sources. Rafael is promoting its new-generation Litening 5, which can detect targets from long range and support intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition and reconnaissance activities.

    The wing kit-equipped Spice 250 glide bomb offers a standoff-range strike capability of up to 54nm (100km). The weapon can be preloaded with up to 100 optional targets, and can also strike moving targets. It also has a battle damage indication capability, by transmitting target images just before impact.

    Unlike the previous members of the Spice family, which came in the kit form and were attached to 1,000lb and 2,000lb "dumb" bombs, Rafael's lighter-weight Spice 250 is supplied as a complete system, enabling fighters to carry an increased load.


    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/rafael-anticipates-litening-spice-deal-with-india-421767/

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    Progress reported on BrahMos air-launched variant

    Post  Pinto on Fri Apr 22, 2016 2:39 pm

    Representatives of the joint Indian-Russian missile project, BrahMos, told IHS Jane's at DSA 2016, that the final, air-launched, version of the missile is close to being operational and the final steps could be taken this year.

    The missile, which is already deployed at about 10 naval vessels of the Indian Armed Forces and also operated as a ground-launched tactical missile on mobile launchers, will now be available to the air force.

    The BrahMos will be carried on Indian Air Force (IAF) Sukhoi Su-30MKI aircraft. A single missile is to be mounted on a specially built pylon that is placed centreline on the aircraft.

    http://www.janes.com/article/59686/dsa-2016-progress-reported-on-brahmos-air-launched-variant

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    Re: Indian Su-30MKI: News

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:31 am

    Pretty impressive coverage of a small area. Yandex from bmpd


    April 25th, 2:26

    The multifunctional su-30MKI of the Indian air force drops an impressive salvo the bomb load in the form of 26 high-explosive bombs FAB-250 caliber 250 kg during demonstration exercise "Iron Fist-2016" the Indian test site Pokhran 18 March 2016.



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    IAF top guns set for Main Phase in Ex-Red Flag

    Post  Pinto on Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:36 am

    Bengaluru, April 29: The Indian Air Force (IAF) top guns currently participating in the Exercise Red Flag are ready to go for the ‘kill' during the Main Conduct Phase.

    Ex-Red Flag saw the culmination of its ‘Work-up Phase' at Eielson Air Force Base (AFB) in Alaska on April 27. The IAF contingent is led by Group Captain H Assudani.





    On Friday, the Minister of Defence confirmed that the IAF team achieved all objectives of the first phase and completely geared for the next phase, beginning on May 3.

    The 12-aircraft team including four Sukhois, four Jaguars, two IL-78 tankers and two C-17s strategic airlift platforms are participating in this exercise.

    MoD said that the F-16 Aggressor Squadron commended the IAF team's performances so far. Eielson AFB, where the contingent is presently deployed, is located 26 miles south-east of Fairbanks town. It has one of the best operating environments in the United States.

    The base houses the elite 18th Aggressor Squadron of USAF operating the F-16s in addition to KC-135 Squadron.

    As reported by OneIndia earlier, 12 IAF assets are at Eielson AFB participating in the 15-day-long air exercise.

    The 12-aircraft IAF team consists of four Su-30 MKIs, four Jaguars, two IL-78 tankers and two C-17s strategic airlift platforms.

    IAF had said earlier that the exercise would provide opportunity for exchange of ideas relating to concept of operations in a dynamic warfare environment.

    Read more at: http://www.oneindia.com/india/iaf-top-guns-set-main-phase-ex-red-flag-2084947.html

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    Re: Indian Su-30MKI: News

    Post  George1 on Sun May 22, 2016 1:22 am

    Su-30MKI fighters will be produced in India under license in 2019-2020 years

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1914258.html


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    Re: Indian Su-30MKI: News

    Post  Pinto on Mon May 23, 2016 7:04 pm

    well this is a best idea igonored by pro western paid indian media, india seems to have in pronicipal decided to have increase the size of su 30mki fleeit by another 3-4 sq atleast which makes sense and the money saved from rafale restricted deal can be spent on upgrading Tejas, AMCA and manufacturing FGFA

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    Super Sukhoi upgrades to come with Steep price for India

    Post  Pinto on Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:01 am

    India’s plans to become the latest country to jump on the 5th-Generation bandwagon by Jointly developing FGFA based on Sukhoi’s T-50 Stealth aircraft might be delayed since India and Russia are pushing for development of Super Sukhoi upgrade package for its current fleet of Sukhoi-30MKI front-line jet which might up at steep price likely to delay FGFA programme .

    According to media reports, agreement on Super Sukhoi upgrade package most likely will happen in next 6 months which is pegged at 8$billion to upgrade India’s entire fleet of nearly 270 Sukhoi-30MKI combat jets .

    According to latest report Super Sukhoi upgrade package will large concentrate on bringing major changes to it Avionics , Software, Pilot interface and Integration of new AESA Multi-mode Radar . Few Sukhoi-30s will have strengthed air frame to support BrahMos-A but all others will be BrahMos-NG and Nirbhay ALCM capable bringing a host of new standoff weapons to India’s Sukhoi-30s arsenal .

    European companies like MBDA have offered latest weapons like Brimstone which is an air-launched ground attack missile and Meteor which is an active radar guided beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile (BVRAAM) for integration with India’s Sukhoi-30MKI fleet, but it is likely India will go for improved weapons systems of Russian origins after Super Sukhoi upgrade.

    Russia will be tasked to develop a prototype and certify Super Sukhoi upgrade aircraft before passing on the TOT for local up gradation by HAL in India replicating Indo-Russian Mig-29UPG modernisation program . The steep price of Super Sukhoi upgrade will see further delays to next Indo-Russian FGFA project due to budgetary constraints .

    http://idrw.org/super-sukhoi-upgrades-to-come-with-steep-price-for-india/#more-102613

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    Re: Indian Su-30MKI: News

    Post  Pinto on Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:08 am

    is 8 b$ costly for 272 fighters ? just make its Indian Rs 200 crores per plane which is hardly 40 mil $ per plane and Why not spend $8 bn on augmenting new batch of Super Sukhoi's + retaining existing Su30 MKI to increase combat aircraft numbers?

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    Re: Indian Su-30MKI: News

    Post  Viktor on Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:34 pm

    Cheap given the amount of work to be done there and completely new avionics installed. Congrats.

    New batch of Super30 would consist of how many jets?

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    Re: Indian Su-30MKI: News

    Post  Pinto on Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:59 pm

    Viktor wrote:Cheap given the amount of work to be done there and completely new avionics installed. Congrats.

    New batch of Super30 would consist of how many jets?

    well bro India intends to upgrade to super sukhoi all of its 272 Su 30mki but wont it be prudent to order su 35 for this amount of 8b$ ? because su30 are still very effective in present form ? we can easily get 100 su 35 for this amount

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    Post  sepheronx on Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:33 pm

    Depending what the entire package consists of, the upgrade could possibly make super sukhoi better than Su-35S. Looking forward. Maybe Russia may just upgrade to that too.

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    Re: Indian Su-30MKI: News

    Post  Pinto on Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:29 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Depending what the entire package consists of, the upgrade could possibly make super sukhoi better than Su-35S. Looking forward. Maybe Russia may just upgrade to that too.

    Hmm yeah lets see what the exact package of upgrades will be when this contract is signed in next 6 months. president Putin has 2 Indian visits lined up in next 5 months so lots of things specially pending and stuck ones are got to move to contract phase now

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    Re: Indian Su-30MKI: News

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:40 pm

    Pinto wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Depending what the entire package consists of, the upgrade could possibly make super sukhoi better than Su-35S. Looking forward. Maybe Russia may just upgrade to that too.

    Hmm yeah lets see what the exact package of upgrades will be when this contract is signed in next 6 months. president Putin has 2 Indian visits lined up in next 5 months so lots of things specially pending and stuck ones are got to move to contract phase now
    I thought that the IAF wanted to install Liteing pods and other non Russian gear.

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    New lease of life for Indian ‘Flanker’

    Post  Pinto on Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:47 pm

    According to trade journal Defense News, India has ‘stepped up negotiations’ with Russia as it seeks to upgrade its front-line fleet of Sukhoi Su-30MKI multi-role fighters. Expected to cost in excess of $8 billion, the upgrade package is intended to bring the aircraft to a ‘fifth-generation level’ and will be carried out on an initial total of 194 jets.

    There has long been talk of a proposed or ‘Super 30’ upgrade for the Indian ‘Flanker’ fleet, but the ‘Super Sukhoi’ now seems to have been adopted for the initiative. It seems that urgency has been added by New Delhi’s continued failure to sign off on a deal for 36 Dassault Rafale fighters, as well as growing concerns that the Indo-Russian Fifth-Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) might fall short of requirements.

    Based on the latest report, Russian officials visited New Delhi in the last few weeks in order to iron out details of the upgrade. Quoting an unnamed official, Defense News says that the upgrade deal will be ‘finalized in the next four to six months’.

    Under a series of contracts (the first of which was signed on November 30, 1996, and the most recent on December 24, 2012), total orders for the Indian Air Force have reached 272 Su-30MKI versions. By early 2016, the IAF had received an estimated 225 aircraft, including 50 delivered in a ‘flyaway’ condition from Russia and 175 made by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited’s (HAL) Nasik facility. At the beginning of 2016 the Indian Air Force initiated the procurement of a batch of 40 more Su-30MKIs.

    The latest upgrade package for India will likely be based around a new computing system (reportedly of Israeli design) as well as new or upgraded sensors, primarily the radar. The weapons array is to be enhanced with long-range RVV-BD (R-37M) and medium-range RVV-SD (R-77-1) air-to-air missiles (AAMs), as well as Kh-59MK air-to-surface missiles. India also wants to adapt the aircraft for the carriage of indigenous weapons, including Astra AAMs; an Astra was launched from a Su-30MKI for the first time on May 4, 2014, during trials in India. New self-protection systems are expected, as well as engine compressor blades, wing and empennage leading edges, and cockpit canopy coatings to reduce the radar cross-section. The AL-31FP engine control system will be upgraded. Under a separate project, the Indo-Russian Brahmos-A air-to-surface missile is to be implemented on the Su-30MKI.

    At the beginning of this year Yuri Belyi, the head of the Tikhomirov NIIP radar company, complained that talks with India about the upgrade of the Su-30MKI had stalled. It is more likely that Russia’s Su-30SM fighters will be upgraded first. As far as the radar is concerned, two stages of upgrade work are planned: first, the Indian computers will be replaced with indigenous examples, and then the radar performance will be enhanced (longer range, greater jamming resistance, new operational modes). Replacement of the passive electronically scanned array (PESA) with an active electronically scanned array (AESA) unified with the N036/N079 radar antenna of the fifth-generation Sukhoi T-50 fighter was once considered, but this has apparently been abandoned.

    It has been suggested that Su-30MKI upgrade will push back the FGFA. This is bad timing for the $25-billion Indo-Russian fighter project — itself based on the Sukhoi T-50 — which has already run into flak in India.

    According to Angad Singh, a New Delhi-based defense journalist, ‘The IAF has repeatedly signaled a willingness to sacrifice the FGFA if it means they can shore up fighter numbers in the short term. The hugely expensive MMRCA (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) program, and now the government-to-government Dassault Aviation Rafale deal have priority at Air Headquarters, and multiple pronouncements by multiple officers have indicated that they are willing to push back or scale down (or both) the FGFA in favor of a more immediate fourth-generation buy.’


    While the Su-30MKI upgrade won’t boost numbers of aircraft on the flight line, it will help ensure that the IAF remains credible despite a drastic decline in fighter numbers (equivalent to 25 squadrons compared to the required strength of 45 squadrons).

    Russian officials confirm that once a contract for the Sukhoi upgrade is signed, an initial prototype will be completed in Russia and upgrade will be conducted by HAL in India. This is the same approach that has been taken for India’s ongoing MiG-29 upgrade project.

    A full account of the two-seat Su-30 ‘Flanker’ family — including the IAF’s Su-30MKI — appeared in the August issue of Combat Aircraft.

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    http://www.combataircraft.net/2016/07/28/new-lease-of-life-for-indian-flanker/


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    Re: Indian Su-30MKI: News

    Post  OminousSpudd on Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:30 pm

    If the IAF is still to invest in the FG FA is there much point in attempting to lower the RCS of the Su-30s?

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    Re: Indian Su-30MKI: News

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:06 am

    OminousSpudd wrote:If the IAF is still to invest in the FG FA is there much point in attempting to lower the RCS of the Su-30s?

    They could use it as a platform to test and work out the kinks and bugs of systems set to be used for FGFA (as well as RAM coatings, RCS shaping skin), like it was done for PAK-FA with the Su-35.....Remember the subsystems on the PAK-FA will be for Russia only, they are too sensitive to just slap on the FGFA, they'll have to create similar but not identical subsystems for FGFA, which will take time to work out the kinks and bugs.

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    Re: Indian Su-30MKI: News

    Post  OminousSpudd on Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:37 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    OminousSpudd wrote:If the IAF is still to invest in the FG FA is there much point in attempting to lower the RCS of the Su-30s?

    They could use it as a platform to test and work out the kinks and bugs of systems set to be used for FGFA (as well as RAM coatings, RCS shaping skin), like it was done for PAK-FA with the Su-35.....Remember the subsystems on the PAK-FA will be for Russia only, they are too sensitive to just slap on the FGFA, they'll have to create similar but not identical subsystems for FGFA, which will take time to work out the kinks and bugs.

    Oh true, I forgot about the lower RCS on the Su-35s. If they can do it for a worthwhile price, then all power to them I suppose. If achieved the Su-30MKI will certainly solidify itself as a very capable aircraft well into the future.

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    India to modernize 194 Su-30MKI fighters

    Post  Pinto on Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:21 pm

    https://in.rbth.com/economics/defence/2016/07/29/india-to-modernize-194-su-30mki-fighters_616321

    India has accelerated negotiations to begin the modernization of 194 Su-30MKI fighters, worth $ 8 billion, with Russia, reports the Defence News portal.

    The Indian Defence Ministry plans to upgrade the status of these fighters to 5th generation aircraft. The updated aircraft will be named ‘Super Sukhoi’.

    "The Russian delegation visited New Delhi in early July to discuss the modernization of the aircraft. The contract should be signed within the next four to six months," Defence News reported, quoting its source in the Defence Ministry.




    The source said India was planning to upgrade 272 fighters in all and appeared confident that the programme "will not hurt the project of joint development of FGFA (fifth generation fighter aircraft) costing $ 25 billion
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    However, retired Air Marshal M Mathesvaran had a different opinion. He said, "the modernization of the Su-30 FGFA will definitely slow down the FGFA project." He believes the Indian Air Force would prefer to "maximize the modernization of the Su-30" rather than the new FGFA, the building of which will cost the country much more.

    Another representative of the Indian Air Force believes that a modernized Su-30 cannot be compared with the FGFA, and that both projects will be implemented in parallel.

    "The FGFA has a number of features that the Super Sukhoi does not. This includes an internal placement of weapons, improved stealth performance, integrated combat electronic system, cruising at supersonic speed. The Su-30 cannot be converted into a barely visible plane. Any alteration of the aircraft wing and materials to enhance its stealth capability will be very expensive and take a lot of time, and almost cost as much as the new project. The FGFA project as a whole cannot be closed because of the modernization of the Su-30,” he explained.

    A Russian diplomat in New Delhi reportedly told the publication that "a contract for modernization of the aircraft version of Super Sukhoi has already been signed. The prototype will be made in Russia, and the modernization will be carried out in the facilities of the Indian state-owned company, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited."

    First published by Topwar.ru.

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    India Wants Fleet of 1,317MPH Next-Gen Russian ‘Super Sukhoi’ Fighter Jets

    Post  Pinto on Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:39 am

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20160730/1043793501/putin-modi-sukhoi-fighter-jets.html


    New Delhi and Moscow near an $8 billion deal to upgrade the fearsome Su-30MKI fighter jet into the Super Sukhoi, but the deal does not threaten the joint Indo-Russia fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) program.


    Negotiations between New Delhi and Moscow have ramped up with India planning to upgrade 194 warplanes to become fifth-generation Sukhoi SU-30MKI fighter jets at a cost of more than $8 billion, Defense News reported this week.

    Defense News quoted an anonymous senior official at India’s Ministry of Defense who said, "A Russian team was in New Delhi earlier this month to discuss [the] upgrade plan with India, which will be finalized in the next four to six months."

    The new planes will be known as "Super Sukhoi" jets with upgrades featuring improved stealth abilities, longer ranger missiles and radars, a supersonic cruise missile and an advanced suite of avionics.

    "A major part of the upgrade involves avionics and sensors," said Muthumanikam Matheswaran, a retired Indian Air Force officer. "These are completely new with new systems and new software. Hence it has no relation to old problems with software. Engine issues will have to be dealt with."

    According to an anonymous Russian diplomat, a prototype of the plane will be developed in Russia while the actual upgrades will be done at India’s state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited.

    The Indian Air Force confirmed that the Su-30MKI upgrade will not impact the proposed Indo-Russian Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) program – worth $25 billion. Analysts believe, however, that a possible diversion of India’s defense funds towards the Super Sukhoi could delay the FGFA.

    India and Russia first signed a Prelminary Development Agreement in 2011 to jointly build the FGFA, but a final agreement which will require a roughly $6 billion payment by New Delhi towards the development of the fighter jet has yet to be inked as the two sides continue to negotiate issues relating to production work share.

    Asked about the rationale of pursuing the substantial and costly upgrades to India’s existing SU-30MKI fighter jets rather than purchasing new aircrafts whole, Matheswaran explained, "An upgrade at the maximum will be about half the cost of the original aircraft in Su-30 generation. A new aircraft in place of Su-30 means FGA, which is far more expensive."

    Dajit Singh, a retired IAF Air Marshal and defense analyst, explained that there will be significant differences between the upgraded Super Sukhoi and the coming FGFA fighter jet.


    "FGFA has some distinct features, which Super Su-30MKI will not have," said Singh. "These include internal weapon-carrying bays to enhance stealth features, integrated internal fit of the electronic warfare suite, super-cruise capability and inherent stealth design."


    “Su-30 cannot be redesigned as a stealth aircraft,” Singh continued. "Any changes of the wing design and material to improve stealth would be very expensive and time consuming and would be akin to a different design. Therefore, the FGFA project may not be canceled in total in view of the Su-30 upgrade."


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