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    Indian MMRCA competition: News

    Post  Russian Patriot on Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:08 am

    Russia aims to start making MiG-35 fighters for India in 2013RIA Novosti

    13/08/200920:45

    NIZHNY NOVGOROD (central Russia), August 13 (RIA Novosti) - Production of MiG-35 multirole fighters offered for sale to India cannot start before 2013 or 2014, a Russian aircraft maker said on Thursday.

    Russia's MiG-35 Fulcrum-F, an export version of the MiG-29M OVT (Fulcrum F), is a highly maneuverable air superiority fighter, which won high acclaim during the Le Bourget air show in France last year.

    "We have begun testing the MiG-35 fighter for the Indian tender," said Alexander Karezin, general director of the Sokol company based in Nizhny Novgorod.

    Six major aircraft makers - Lockheed and Boeing from the United States, Russia's MiG, which is part of the UAC, France's Dassault, Sweden's Saab and the EADS consortium of British, German, Spanish and Italian companies - are in contention to win the $10 billion contract for 126 light fighters to be supplied to the Indian Air Force.

    Sokol earlier said that the first two MiG-35 aircraft would be delivered to India in August for test flights prior to the award of the tender. In late 2009, Russia will conduct a series of flight tests with live firing for an Indian Air Force delegation at one of the testing grounds on the Russian territory.

    The fighter is powered by RD-33 OVT thrust vectoring engines. The RD-33 OVT engines provide superior maneuverability and enhance the fighter's performance in close air engagements.

    Moscow said if MiG-35 wins the tender, Russia is ready to transfer all key technology to India's Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. and provide assistance for the production of the aircraft in the country.


    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2009/08/mil-090813-rianovosti03.htm
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    Indian MMRCA Tender News

    Post  Vladimir79 on Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:33 pm

    Indian Air Force began testing fighters in the largest tender
    19.08.2009

    The Air Force of India started the test on August 17 fighters participating in the largest tender of the defense establishment, reported Agence France-Presse.

    According to the source agency of the Indian air traffic controllers, they began with two flights of American aircraft production series F/A-18 Boeing, each of which lasted 45 minutes. During the tests witnessed by experts in the field of aviation.

    The next, according to the representative of the Indian Air Force will also assess the type of American fighter F-16 development of Lockheed Martin. It is these two companies, according to Agence France-Presse in industrial circles, yet tacitly regarded as the leaders of the competition for the supply of new fighters Delhi.

    India announced a tender to supply 126 multi-purpose fighter aircraft in August 2007. At present, its value is estimated at about $ 12 billion. For this amount the Indians expect to buy 126 new multi-purpose fighter. The conditions also include reinvested in the economy of the country 50 percent of the total value of the transaction.

    At this stage the participants are from the French company Dassault fighter aircraft Rafale, Sweden's SAAB with the Gripen, the Russian corporation "MiG" with MIG-35, the European group EADS with Eurofighter Typhoon, as well as the American Boeing and Lockheed Martin, provided the aircraft F/A-18E / F and F-16C / D, respectively.

    Recall that in mid-April 2009 Agence France-Presse reported on the decision to exclude the Indian Air Force aircraft from the French participation in the tender. However, later it was officially denied by the military.

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    MiG-35 has tested a new Radar with an active phased array

    Post  Vladimir79 on Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:37 pm

    MiG-35 has tested a new Radar with an active phased array
    19.08.2009

    The next phase of flight tests of the MiG-35 with on-board radar (BRLS) Zhuk-AE "with an active phased array has been successfully completed. This, according to Interfax, August 18, said Deputy director of the company-developer "phasotron-NIIR" Science, the chief designer Yuri Guskov at the MAKS-2009 air show.

    According to the interlocutor Agency, during test flights of MiG-35 with onboard radar "Zhuk-AE" were checked, all modes of its work on air and ground targets in the rear hemisphere, and in close combat. The radar detects and had three goals aircraft at ranges of up to 148 kilometers. Test Pilot praised the efficiency and the radar results, highlighted Guskov.

    Note that the on-board BRLS "Zhuk-AE" was designed specifically for installation in a multi-fighter, the MiG-35. In particular, it is planned that in case of winning the tender the Indian Air Force, which involved the Russian aircraft production models will be completed by this radar.

    The radar "Zhuk-AE" is intended for posting on the light fighter class. It weighs about 220-240 kilograms and has an antenna diameter of 575 millimeters. Detection range of air targets, as previously reported, was approximately 180 kilometers. This radar system should be accompanied by up to 30 air targets and the simultaneous firing of eight of them.

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    Re: Indian MMRCA competition: News

    Post  Viktor on Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:47 pm

    Have you any reliable info about bigger ZHUK-AE with more T/R elements? As I read they planed 1000+ T/R AESA elements from the day but failed to do so because of its weight.
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    Re: Indian MMRCA competition: News

    Post  rkt86 on Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:19 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:Indian Air Force began testing fighters in the largest tender
    19.08.2009

    The Air Force of India started the test on August 17 fighters participating in the largest tender of the defense establishment, reported Agence France-Presse.

    According to the source agency of the Indian air traffic controllers, they began with two flights of American aircraft production series F/A-18 Boeing, each of which lasted 45 minutes. During the tests witnessed by experts in the field of aviation.

    The next, according to the representative of the Indian Air Force will also assess the type of American fighter F-16 development of Lockheed Martin. It is these two companies, according to Agence France-Presse in industrial circles, yet tacitly regarded as the leaders of the competition for the supply of new fighters Delhi.

    India announced a tender to supply 126 multi-purpose fighter aircraft in August 2007. At present, its value is estimated at about $ 12 billion. For this amount the Indians expect to buy 126 new multi-purpose fighter. The conditions also include reinvested in the economy of the country 50 percent of the total value of the transaction.

    At this stage the participants are from the French company Dassault fighter aircraft Rafale, Sweden's SAAB with the Gripen, the Russian corporation "MiG" with MIG-35, the European group EADS with Eurofighter Typhoon, as well as the American Boeing and Lockheed Martin, provided the aircraft F/A-18E / F and F-16C / D, respectively.

    Recall that in mid-April 2009 Agence France-Presse reported on the decision to exclude the Indian Air Force aircraft from the French participation in the tender. However, later it was officially denied by the military.

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    I THINK INDIA SHOULD GO FOR RAFALE,GRIPEN OR MIG-35 AS F-16(ALREADY WITH PAK AF AND THEY ARE WELL EQUIPPED WITH THAT,ALSO USA IS NT GOING TO FULL TOT TO INDIA FOR F-18 HORNET,TYPHOON IS MUCH COSTLIER AS ITS COST ALMOST EQUAL TO OUR PAK-FA(WHILE ITS 4.5 GEN AGAINST PAKFA ,WHICH IS 5TH GEN FIGHTER).FOR ME RAFALE WILL BE A GOOD OPTION.
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    Re: Indian MMRCA competition: News

    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:54 am

    rkt86 wrote:


    I THINK INDIA SHOULD GO FOR RAFALE,GRIPEN OR MIG-35 AS F-16(ALREADY WITH PAK AF AND THEY ARE WELL EQUIPPED WITH THAT,ALSO USA IS NT GOING TO FULL TOT TO INDIA FOR F-18 HORNET,TYPHOON IS MUCH COSTLIER AS ITS COST ALMOST EQUAL TO OUR PAK-FA(WHILE ITS 4.5 GEN AGAINST PAKFA ,WHICH IS 5TH GEN FIGHTER).FOR ME RAFALE WILL BE A GOOD OPTION.
    THANX

    Rafale is too underpowered, Gripen is too tied up in corruption scandals. MiG-35 doesn't meet their timetable. My guess is Eurofighter. Indian ambassador to Italy already said it is in the lead.
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    Re: Indian MMRCA competition: News

    Post  rkt86 on Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:59 pm

    Rafale is too underpowered, Gripen is too tied up in corruption scandals. MiG-35 doesn't meet their timetable. My guess is Eurofighter. Indian ambassador to Italy already said it is in the lead.[/quote]


    but mate,dnt u think eurofighter is too costly to procure,you can compare its prices with pak-fa,and dude ,its 4.5 gen fighter as pak-fa/fgfa is 5th gen stealth fighter sunny
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    Re: Indian MMRCA competition: News

    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:47 pm

    rkt86 wrote:but mate,dnt u think eurofighter is too costly to procure,you can compare its prices with pak-fa,and dude ,its 4.5 gen fighter as pak-fa/fgfa is 5th gen stealth fighter sunny

    Eurofighter is hard up for orders with everyone slashing from 700 to 559. EADS and BAE will be willing to slash prices just to keep the production run. What they charged the Saudis isn't necessarily what they will charge India.
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    Re: Indian MMRCA competition: News

    Post  rkt86 on Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:32 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:
    rkt86 wrote:but mate,dnt u think eurofighter is too costly to procure,you can compare its prices with pak-fa,and dude ,its 4.5 gen fighter as pak-fa/fgfa is 5th gen stealth fighter sunny

    Eurofighter is hard up for orders with everyone slashing from 700 to 559. EADS and BAE will be willing to slash prices just to keep the production run. What they charged the Saudis isn't necessarily what they will charge India.



    vladimir,can you tell me the exact features of typhoon and its edge over other competitors mainly super hornet and mig-35..as many guys were also appreciating this plane in other forum.

    am very new to this kinda knowledge..
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    Re: Indian MMRCA competition: News

    Post  Vladimir79 on Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:33 pm

    rkt86 wrote:
    vladimir,can you tell me the exact features of typhoon and its edge over other competitors mainly super hornet and mig-35..as many guys were also appreciating this plane in other forum.

    am very new to this kinda knowledge..
    thanx

    Typhoon is considered the most powerful 4++ fighter at present. It has good T/W, supercruise, and high maneuverability. It has a powerful radar but who knows what the Selex AESA will finally be. It is a strong contender in MMRCA because of the EU political ties that go with it and it is only one of three that are in full production. SH, Typhooon, and Rafale are the only ones that India will really look at considering they need to start delievery soon. They can't wait until 2015 for Saab and MiG to come out with production fighters. The negative for Typhoon is the lack of development of its AESA. America and France are the only two with production AESAs.
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    Re: Indian MMRCA competition: News

    Post  Viktor on Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:01 am

    Vladimir79 wrote: The negative for Typhoon is the lack of development of its AESA. America and France are the only two with production AESAs.

    AESA radar is one of the requirements.

    I dont know every fighter on contest is good enough with each one having its plus and minuses. Only Russia and France offer full ToT with Russia intend to heavily provide offset in form of 10 Bin SuperJet100 factory etc.
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    Re: Indian MMRCA competition: News

    Post  Vladimir79 on Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:48 am

    Nearing the climax of the tender MMRCA?

    Air Force ready to present the results of comparative tests of applicants

    As reported by India The Economic Times , citing a source in the Ministry of Defence of the country next week, Air Force intend to submit a report on the testing of all applicants to win the tender MMRCA. It will read a short list of fighters who have succeeded with all tests , from which in future will be selected the winner.

    After that will be opened , examined and compared with each other , commercial applications of participants - Boeing (F/A-18 Super Hornet), Lockheed Martin (F- 16 Falcon), Saab (Gripen), Dassault (Rafale), JAB ( MiG - 35 ) and the European consortium , representing the Eurofighter Typhoon.

    According to the newspaper , the first time in the Indian tender will be taken into account not only offer the minimum purchase price , but the total cost of the proposal , while maintaining the life cycle of a fighter. This includes the cost of the actual purchase price and the cost of the fighter for 40 years , including 6000 flight hours .

    There will also be talks on offset obligations in the amount of 50% of the contract .

    Air Force hopes that the contract for the purchase of 18 finished and the production of other aircraft at the facilities of HAL would be signed during the year, given the rapid decline in the number of combat-ready squadrons (currently 32) .

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    Re: Indian MMRCA competition: News

    Post  GarryB on Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:22 am

    The rumors with Indian MMRCA and carried by some news paper is even if Mig-35 looses the MMRCA race the Indian Government will purchase 60 odd Mig-35 outside the MMRCA.

    If the MMRCA is really just a technology grab, then it would make sense for them to go for either the Typhoon or F-18, but both are very very expensive for simply warmed over 4+ gen fighters.
    If they are going to risk a US aircraft then I would think a mix of F-18s and Gripens might actually suit them best from a tech grab point of view.

    Does that mean the US is muscling in on Russian weapon sales to India? ...not really, 20 years ago this contract probably would have just gone to the French for more M2Ks, but seeing as they are not longer an option...

    BTW thanks for those links Austin.

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    Re: Indian MMRCA competition: News

    Post  Austin on Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:42 am

    GarryB the problem is L1 tendering which mean say 5 aircraft meets IAF baseline requirenment then the one that cost lowest will be purchased.

    So if Typhoon is the best technology bet then its not necessary the lowest bidder , L1 tendering and best technology are at logger heads.

    Which is the reason I think the best deal and lowest cost will win the day if the process is followed without political interference.

    Which gives aircraft like Mig-35 and F-16IN a good chance to win.

    Well irrespective of the fate of Mig-35 in MMRCA the RuAF should procure atleast 100 of these and should aggressively export it.
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    Re: Indian MMRCA competition: News

    Post  GarryB on Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:04 am

    The problem for the F-16 is that Pakistan already use it.
    And the issue with the Mig-35 is that it will probably replace or supliment the existing Mig-29s anyway.
    The problem is that this has gone on for so long I would expect different people want or expect different things from it, from a way to buy new technology relatively cheaply, to a potential to diversify sources for important items.
    Personally I think reliability wise France and Russia have both shown there are no strings attached in the way India can use the things it buys, so the only reason to diversify is to get a better price. The problem is that in this case buying American or the joint European offering (Typhoon) will get different capabilities but so many strings attached it is not funny.
    When any senator can add extra demands on each order for spares for leverage on India, I really don't think it is worth it to buy from the US...

    I agree regarding the Mig-35 in Russian service, I think it is an excellent jet that will be a very capable machine in the Russian AF. Hopefully current Mig-29 users will take note of the performance increases this model offers and it is ordered in numbers.

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    Re: Indian MMRCA competition: News

    Post  Austin on Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:12 am

    True the problem with American purchase is that it comes with strings attached and some agreement that needs to be signed that so far India has not done.

    Any senator can get up on the wrong side of bed with a bad dream and can come with some conditions that may affects spares , weapons and support.

    But the bright side is we do not learn from past experience and have the habit of coming with wrong decision due to narrow political/personal reasons , so them them buy all the American goods they can and then learn to live with strings attached.
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    Re: Indian MMRCA competition: News

    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:45 am

    MiG-35 knocked out of MRCA

    7 Aug 2010, 1910 hrs IST, AGENCIES
    After exhaustive trials of six fighter jets, Indian Air Force (IAF) has made its choice clear to the Government on the kind of fighter jets needed. Frontrunners for the force are French fighter Dassault Rafale and the Eurofighter Typhoon built by the European consortium. Bernhard Gerwert, Chief, EADS, says “If you are taking into account the portfolio of EADS we can bring the bridge between civil aviation and military aviation.” But the Americans and Russians have lost out. Boeing’s F18 no longer a frontrunner and Sweden’s Gripen too falling off the Indian radar.

    Despite MiG 35s big thunder, its engine failing to impress while the F-16, according to the IAF has no future. Another reason favouring Rafale and Eurofighter is political. Thomas Matussek, German Ambassador, “We regard India as a strategic security partner and this is why we do not insist on an end user monitoring agreement period.” So when the mother of all defence deals is signed for the 126 Multi-Role Combat Aircraft either Rafale or the Eurofighter will fly away with the Rs 42,000 crore deal.

    http://www.timesnow.tv/New-fighters-for-Indian-Air-Force/videoshow/4351234.cms



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    Rafale & Eurofighter shortlisted for Indian MRCA

    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:48 am

    New fighters for Indian Air Force

    7 Aug 2010, 1910 hrs IST, AGENCIES
    After exhaustive trials of six fighter jets, Indian Air Force (IAF) has made its choice clear to the Government on the kind of fighter jets needed. Frontrunners for the force are French fighter Dassault Rafale and the Eurofighter Typhoon built by the European consortium. Bernhard Gerwert, Chief, EADS, says “If you are taking into account the portfolio of EADS we can bring the bridge between civil aviation and military aviation.” But the Americans and Russians have lost out. Boeing’s F18 no longer a frontrunner and Sweden’s Gripen too falling off the Indian radar.

    Despite MiG 35s big thunder, its engine failing to impress while the F-16, according to the IAF has no future. Another reason favouring Rafale and Eurofighter is political. Thomas Matussek, German Ambassador, “We regard India as a strategic security partner and this is why we do not insist on an end user monitoring agreement period.” So when the mother of all defence deals is signed for the 126 Multi-Role Combat Aircraft either Rafale or the Eurofighter will fly away with the Rs 42,000 crore deal.

    http://www.timesnow.tv/New-fighters-for-Indian-Air-Force/videoshow/4351234.cms
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    Re: Indian MMRCA competition: News

    Post  Viktor on Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:48 pm

    Its still no official. A while ago word has being out about Gripen being kicked out of tender. It turned out to be untrue. Now this.
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    Post  Russian Patriot on Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:29 pm


    MiG-35 stalls in Indian fighter tender contract

    RIA Novosti

    10:42 10/08/2010 MOSCOW, August 10 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's MiG-35 multirole fighter aircraft has failed to make the short-list in a $10 billion international tender for 126 combat aircraft for the Indian air force, according to Indian media reports quoted by Kommersant daily.

    The favorites to win the tender are the French Dassault Rafale and the Eurofighter Typhoon, Indian media say.

    Russia's United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), the holding company for most of the Russian aircraft industry, and its fighter subsidiary MiG, have not officially confirmed the reports.

    "The official results of the tender have not yet been announced," said UAC's Press Secretary Konstantin Lantratov.

    "The MiG-35 is not leaving the tender, and I have no official information about this," said UAC First Vice-President Mikhail Pogosyan.

    A MiG source quoted by Kommersant said it was too early to say what the Indians had decided.

    "The envelopes with the commercial proposals should be studied by the tender commission only this week," the source said.

    Several sources quoted by the paper listed a raft of problems around the MiG-35 program, including a lack of financing to support it. One source said the lack of state funding to support the program had been noted by UAC President Aleksei Fyodorov as long ago as the end of 2008, but the issue was not resolved.

    The MiG-35 is said to be a cheaper aircraft than its rivals but is said to have problems with engine life.

    "Time between overhauls should be at least 2000 hours and overall life 4000 hours, but the RD-33 doesn't meet these parameters now," said one source.

    India already operates the early model MiG-29A fighter aircraft and is taking delivery of the MiG-29K naval fighter, which it will operate from a Russian-built aircraft carrier which is currently under refit.

    The selection of two favored aircraft for the Indian tender follows a long trials process, which also involved Sweden's SAAB Gripen, America's Lockheed Martin with the F-16, and Boeing's F-18 Super Hornet, as well as the Russian MiG-35.

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    Re: Indian MMRCA competition: News

    Post  Vladimir79 on Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:26 pm

    TBO is less than advertised for RD-33MK... no suprise there. Russian engines are doomed to poor durability issues it appears.
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    MiG-35 to skip Bangalore airshow

    Post  Vladimir79 on Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:50 pm

    MiG-35 to skip Bangalore airshow


    Rahul Singh, PTI
    New Delhi, February 01, 2011

    The Russian MiG-35, one of the six fighter planes competing with American and European rivals for a $10.2 billion (Rs 45,900 crore) Indian Air Force contract, will not be putting in an appearance at Aero India-2011 in Bangalore next week. Befuddled by the move, the defence ministry is making last-ditch efforts to get the Russians onboard.

    RK Singh, secretary (defence production), said on Tuesday, “We don’t know why the MiG-35 is not coming. We want them to participate and have asked our embassy in Moscow to take up the matter.” Russia, however, is among the 45 official delegations expected.

    The biennial airshow, to be held from February 9-13, offers international exhibitors a prestigious platform to showcase newest aerospace equipment and technology. More than 675 exhibitors from 60 countries will attend the eighth edition of the airshow, compared to 592 exhibitors from 25 countries in 2009. The exhibitors include 380 Indian firms compared to 303 two years back.

    China, Pakistan and Iran have not been invited. Beijing turned down an invite in 2009. Singh said participating countries were short-listed by the ministry of external affairs. Chinese journalists have also been kept out. The US presence will be the biggest with 250 official delegations.

    The Russian Aircraft Corporation’s MiG-35 is locked in competition with Boeing (F/A-18 Super Hornet), Lockheed Martin (F-16 Super Viper), Eurofighter Typhoon (a consortium of British, German, Spanish and Italian companies), Dassault Aviation (Rafale) and Saab (Gripen) to supply 126 fighter planes to the IAF.

    Barring MiG-35, the remaining competitors will be flying at the airshow, organised jointly by the defence ministry and Confederation of Indian Industry.

    India and Russia signed a $30 billion (Rs 1,35,000 crore) agreement for the joint design and development of the fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) last December. The two sides are also expected to ink a $4.3 billion (Rs 19,350 crore) deal for 42 more Sukhoi-30 MKI fighters to be manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited.
    The IAF’s newly acquired C-130J Super Hercules airlifters, capable of takeoffs and landings from unprepared runways, will debut at the airshow. The IAF signed a $1 billion (Rs 4,500 crore) contract with US aerospace giant Lockheed Martin for six C-130J Super Hercules aircraft in 2008.

    The odd-one out at the airshow will be a Maruti 800 flying car, developed by a Bangalore-based aviation entusiast. Australia, France, Germany, Italy, Israel, Singapore, Japan and Afghanistan are among the countries sending official delegations. More than 1,75,000 visitors are expected.
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    Re: Indian MMRCA competition: News

    Post  GarryB on Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:03 am

    This is a concern really.

    The fact that the Indians want it there clearly show they are still interested, but the fact that they are not sending any Mig-35s means they are clearly behind and can't spare an airframe for a week or so, which suggests they are working very very hard to get it ready.

    There are rumours that the EO system has proved to be a problem and the maker is not able to supply the system to spec. I would guess that one solution would be a fuselage pylon for a Damocles pod or an equivalent perhaps?

    The standard load on an 8 pylon wing set up usually means 4 pylons taken up with jamming pods and short range self defence missiles for most missions.

    The Mig-29SMT has been shown with a jamming system that looks like a very large pylon which made me think that perhaps they should work on maximising their weapons load by adapting a jamming pod to take the form of a large weapon pylon that can also carry an AAM so you can have 2 jammers and 4 AAMs on 4 pylons leaving the inner pylons for heavy weapons like laser or satellite guided bombs or missiles or ARMs or long range AAMs.

    Another issue is that short range AAMs are self defence things that will be used in desperate situations so a couple of BVR missiles would be useful too, so if they are not going to fit EO to the engine nacelles then why not fit conformal R-77 missile positions?

    The standard R-77 pylon adapter has a built in catapult to throw the missile down and clear of the aircraft before the rocket motor is started so building in that catapult in the corners of both engine nacelles should allow up to four R-77s with folded rear grid fins be fitted to the engines leaving the 8 wing pylons free for other weapons.

    The two centre conformal positions would only be usable with no centreline drop tank of course but with no undercarriage doors down the centreline you could probably put 4 R-77s there in tandem and with the centreline pylon free without a fuel tank there you could get 5 missiles in there with no problems. The catapults would be angled on the conformal positions so that they directed the missile down and clear of the aircraft and so that they wouldn't hit anything mounted on the centre bottom of the nacelle like a targeting pod like Sapsan or Damocles.

    Best case scenario this means two R-77s conformally on the outer corner of the engine nacelles and four on the inner corner in tandem which means the centreline pylon can't be used for the fuel tank but could be used for another R-77.

    A potential air to air weapon load therefore could be 11 R-77s plus two 2,200 ltr drop tanks on the inner wing pylon and two MSP-418K modified to carry R-73s underneath would mean good range with the fuel tanks, good air to air persistence with 13 AAMs plus 30mm cannon, and good protection with 2 external and internal ESSM suite.

    BTW if you think that sounds way out Russian designers had plans for small R-77 sized internal bays all over the top of their aircraft that would open and throw a missile up that would then fire its engine and fly towards the target. The only thing that stopped them actually using such a design was the problems loading the missiles at airfields.
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    Indian defense budget:

    Post  Serbia Forever 2 on Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:41 am

    India is planning to increase its defense budget by 11 percent in the next fiscal year, Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee said on Monday.
    Presenting the 2011-2012 budget to parliament, the minister set the military budget at just over 1.64 trillion rupees ($36.28 billion), up from last year's 1.47 trillion rupees.

    "Needless to say, any additional requirement for the security of the nation will be provided for," Mukherjee said.
    More than 40 percent of the Indian defense budget for 2011 will be spent on capital expenditure, while the rest will go toward maintaining one of the world's largest standing armed forces.Local analysts speculate that such a significant increase in defense spending could indicate the government's drive to bolster India's defense capability by the extensive acquisition of modern weaponry.

    An ongoing tender to supply 126 light fighter jets to the Indian air force is among the major acquisition projects carried out by the military.
    Six major aircraft makers - Lockheed and Boeing from the United States, Russia's MiG, France's Dassault, Sweden's Saab and the EADS consortium of British, German, Spanish and Italian companies - are in contention to win the $11 billion tender.
    India is expected to make its choice in July of this year.

    NEW DELHI, February 28 (RIA Novosti)
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    Re: Indian MMRCA competition: News

    Post  IronsightSniper on Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:39 am

    I thought that India already chose to buy from Eurofighter?

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