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    Indian Army (IA): Equipment and News

    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:25 pm

    The Indian army has received remotely operated BMP-2
    17.08.2009

    The Indian army has received the first remotely operated vehicle of national development, which can be used for patrolling, detection of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons and mines, the Defense News. Established on the basis of Russia's infantry fighting vehicles BMP-2, a prototype of the military handed over for testing.

    As the publication explained, reconnaissance vehicle equipped with a wired control system, consisting of electro-mechanical controls and controls operator, which include radio transmissions, brakes, steering, clutch, parking brake, and other elements. Transmitted vehicle information is displayed using the graphical user interface.

    Developer of the new machine is one of the bodies of defense research and development of India (DRDO), specializing in wheeled caterpillar equipment for ground troops. As the representative of DRDO, novelty can be a promising precursor unmanned tank.

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    India intends to spend $7 billion on artillery

    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:19 pm

    India intends to spend $7 billion on artillery
    31/08/2009

    Prolonged standing in the program of modernization of the armed ground forces of India 155-mm howitzer FH-77B 39-gauge to the standard 45-caliber is under threat because of the high demands controlled artillery. India bought 410 howitzers in 1987. Aim pursued modernization is to increase the range of target shooting and allowing heavier ammunition. Improvement Program includes the replacement of the barrel, bolt, strengthening the chassis and equipped howitzers modern sighting system. Despite the fact that a number of artillery fire management acknowledged that the request is practically not feasible, the command is not in a position to review or change the specification, since it has the right only the Minister of Defense.

    This specification, prepared by the Ministry of Defense, in 2006, remained unfulfilled. Earlier this year, the defense establishment has published an amended specification, however, BAE systems, which is a manufacturer of FH-77B, refused to respond to it by reason of impossibility of performance requirements. Of the 12 private Indian companies with permission to manufacture defense products, proposals submitted only Tata and the manufacturers of rocket and artillery weapons (OFB).

    In accordance with the approved plan of modernization of Indian Army Field Artillery in the planning period from 2015 to 2020 to import and assemble at its plants by about 3600 howitzers, most of which amount to 155-mm towed, wheeled and tracked guns having a barrel 52 caliber. In addition, we plan to have in service about 400 FH-77B 45-caliber and 180 of Russia's 130-mm field guns, M-46, recently upgraded by the Israeli company Salt. Total project cost procurement of artillery systems intended to re-up to 220 artillery regiments, could reach nearly $ 7 billion, said ARMS-TASS.

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    Ιndia's future main battle tank (FMBT)

    Post  Viktor on Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:40 pm

    India and Russia are planning to jointly develop a futuristic 'smart' battle tank, having higher speed and better firepower, reports quoting Nikolai Malykh, director general of Russia's biggest battle factory Uralvagonzavod (UVZ), as saying.

    The two sides had preliminary discussions on the issue and defence ministry experts in India will discuss the new project when a delegation of the (UVZ) tank-building factory visits India this week to participate in an international seminar on the future main battle tank (FMBT) organised by the Army along with the Confederation of Indian Industry, according to Malykh.

    ''We put forward this idea (of developing the tank) at the turn of the 21st century. The Indian side has now come up with a similar proposal," the Moscow Defence Brief (MDB) magazine quoted Malykh as saying.

    ''We will take the first step when our experts go to India to attend a conference on the future tank and prospects for the tank-building industry," Malykh said on the sidelines of a defence expo.


    The new tank will have higher speed, better firepower, sophisticated armour protection and a smoother ride and improved armour protection for crew, the report said.

    Armour-protected crew compartment will be sealed from the unmanned turret equipped with an automatic loader, to ensure the survivability of highly trained human assets, it said.

    Information for the crew will be networked using a virtual-reality command information system linked to reconnaissance aircraft and satellites.

    The move comes even as the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) had suggested a joint assessment with the Indian Army to save the main battle tank (MBT) Arjun and keep the project alive.

    The rmy, however, has rejected by the idea. The army is also ambiguous on a suggestion by the DRDO that the tank be assessed head-to-head with the T-90 MBTs the army currently operates.

    A leading Russian defence expert says it makes good sense for India and Russia to join hands in building a futuristic tank.

    India has purchased over 1,600 T-90S MBTs from the UVZ of which 1,000 will be manufactured at the Heavy Vehicles Factory in Avadi. Uralvagonzavod has for a long time been cooperating with the Avadi plant in the production of T-72 and T-90S MBTs.
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    Re: Indian Army (IA): Equipment and News

    Post  GarryB on Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:15 am

    So how is this effected by the plans to stop development of the T-95?

    One would assume that the Indians would not be interested in development if the T-95 was obsolete Soviet Era junk.

    Perhaps the comment 'smart' is the key.

    Perhaps the T-95 didn't have enough Cs in its C3.

    C3 is Command, Control, and Communications.

    Battle management is C4ISR or Command, Control, Communications, Computers, Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance.

    Of course the Brits call it C4ISTAR (command, control, communications, computers), I (military intelligence), and STAR (surveillance, target acquisition, and reconnaissance).
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    Re: Indian Army (IA): Equipment and News

    Post  Vladimir79 on Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:15 pm

    The biggest reason T-95 was cancelled is because India and Saudi Arabia didn't want to fund its development.
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    Re: Indian Army (IA): Equipment and News

    Post  sepheronx on Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:34 am

    Vladimir79 wrote:The biggest reason T-95 was cancelled is because India and Saudi Arabia didn't want to fund its development.

    So the cat is out of the bag.

    It was obvious that the concept of closing a lot projects wasn't because of their technology, it was because it probably did not meet most others expectations in an MBT in terms of cost and capability. In other words, they will build the next MBT's around India's, Vietnams, and other countries military apsects.

    Oh well.
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:39 am

    sepheronx wrote:

    So the cat is out of the bag.

    It was obvious that the concept of closing a lot projects wasn't because of their technology, it was because it probably did not meet most others expectations in an MBT in terms of cost and capability. In other words, they will build the next MBT's around India's, Vietnams, and other countries military apsects.

    Oh well.

    The cat is out of the bag, it never left the concept stage.
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    Re: Indian Army (IA): Equipment and News

    Post  GarryB on Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:58 am

    The biggest reason T-95 was cancelled is because India and Saudi Arabia didn't want to fund its development.

    So perhaps reading the title of this thread should suggest that India has changed its mind and is going to joint develop and presumably joint fund the T-95 program?

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    Re: Indian Army (IA): Equipment and News

    Post  Stalingradcommando on Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:20 pm

    Viktor wrote:India and Russia are planning to jointly develop a futuristic 'smart' battle tank, having higher speed and better firepower, reports quoting Nikolai Malykh, director general of Russia's biggest battle factory Uralvagonzavod (UVZ), as saying.

    The two sides had preliminary discussions on the issue and defence ministry experts in India will discuss the new project when a delegation of the (UVZ) tank-building factory visits India this week to participate in an international seminar on the future main battle tank (FMBT) organised by the Army along with the Confederation of Indian Industry, according to Malykh.

    ''We put forward this idea (of developing the tank) at the turn of the 21st century. The Indian side has now come up with a similar proposal," the Moscow Defence Brief (MDB) magazine quoted Malykh as saying.

    ''We will take the first step when our experts go to India to attend a conference on the future tank and prospects for the tank-building industry," Malykh said on the sidelines of a defence expo.


    The new tank will have higher speed, better firepower, sophisticated armour protection and a smoother ride and improved armour protection for crew, the report said.

    Armour-protected crew compartment will be sealed from the unmanned turret equipped with an automatic loader, to ensure the survivability of highly trained human assets, it said.

    Information for the crew will be networked using a virtual-reality command information system linked to reconnaissance aircraft and satellites.

    The move comes even as the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) had suggested a joint assessment with the Indian Army to save the main battle tank (MBT) Arjun and keep the project alive.

    The rmy, however, has rejected by the idea. The army is also ambiguous on a suggestion by the DRDO that the tank be assessed head-to-head with the T-90 MBTs the army currently operates.

    A leading Russian defence expert says it makes good sense for India and Russia to join hands in building a futuristic tank.

    India has purchased over 1,600 T-90S MBTs from the UVZ of which 1,000 will be manufactured at the Heavy Vehicles Factory in Avadi. Uralvagonzavod has for a long time been cooperating with the Avadi plant in the production of T-72 and T-90S MBTs.

    What`s the source of this?
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    India, Russia to jointly develop futuristic MBT

    Post  Viktor on Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:51 pm

    Cant remember now nor am I anywhere near my home computer so ...
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    Re: Indian Army (IA): Equipment and News

    Post  Viktor on Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:39 pm

    Now that T-95 has apparently gone for redesign Im mutch interested in future India tank they are about to design since Russia

    offered them codevelopment.

    Austin. India signed for T-90M version licence production Im I right?

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    Now that T-95 has apparently gone for redesign Im mutch interested in future India tank they are about to design since Russia

    Post  Austin on Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:23 pm

    Viktor wrote:Now that T-95 has apparently gone for redesign Im mutch interested in future India tank they are about to design since Russia

    T-95 has been cancelled straight and straight , A new design is underdevelopment apparently in an interview the designer says it will be a electric tank.

    You can find the interview here , check the last few questions
    http://vpk.name/news/47087_u_menya_net_celi_prokatitsya_na_tanke__oleg_sienko_generalnyii_direktor_oao_npk_uralvagonzavod.html

    India is working on its own FMBT , it will be in the 40 T class tank or more in T series weight.

    offered them codevelopment.

    Not sure co-development is possible , but it is it would reduce the unit cost of each tank.

    Austin. India signed for T-90M version licence production Im I right?

    India signed an agreement in various phase to buy , built via CKD and lic produce T-90 tank with complete TOT and design document provided , it is not of any specific T-90 version , but considering the order is for 1600 Tanks what even Russian Army develops for T-90 will slowly get incorporated in Indian version.

    I just hope they build the new T-90M version.

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    Re: Indian Army (IA): Equipment and News

    Post  Austin on Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:08 am

    Not related to russia but found out there is IA RFI that would want to upgrade their existing BMP-2/2K TO BMP-2M standards and guess what the RFI asks for exactly what the two link shows you , So we would eventually have a BMP-2M upgrade Very Happy

    RFI --> http://indianarmy.nic.in/writereaddata/RFI/26/rfi131109.pdf

    http://www.primeportal.net/apc/yuri_pasholok/bmp-2m_w_kornet/index.php?Page=1
    http://www.interarms.ru/arhiv/n1_2010/kbp-designed_modernized_fighting_compartment_of_the_bmp-2_-_an_efficient_way_of_upgrading_armoured_vehicles1/

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    Re: Indian Army (IA): Equipment and News

    Post  Austin on Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:52 am

    Seem Indian T-72 uses 2 new FSAPDS round one from Israel and one developed by DRDO

    MK2 FSAPDS 125mm from DRDO is under protection and also, IMI 125 mm APFSDS was also under production at OFB.
    DRDO ammo, fair improvement in performance
    https://redcdn.net/ihimg/photo/my-images/707/scan0078.jpg/
    Israeli ammo license produced at OFB while MK2 got ready
    http://ofbindia.gov.in/products/data/ammunition/lc/37-MM-FSAPDS-MARK-I.jpg

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    Re: Indian Army (IA): Equipment and News

    Post  f-insas on Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:13 pm

    well ,this is lot of fire power indeed,we can make the hell out of pakis with this kudos to mod
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    Re: Indian Army (IA): Equipment and News

    Post  NationalRus on Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:40 pm

    india is doing some serious modernisation

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    New strike corps for China border

    Post  Corrosion on Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:12 pm

    New strike corps for China border

    In 2009, New Delhi acted decisively in sanctioning two new army divisions, about 35,000 troops, to strengthen Indian defences in Arunachal, which China claims as a part of Tibet. It can now be revealed that New Delhi has also sanctioned a new mountain strike corps, of an additional 40,000 soldiers, to be permanently located in bases in northeast India. The new corps is to retaliate against any major Chinese ingress into India by launching an offensive into Tibet.

    The new mountain strike corps will control two divisions, trained and equipped for an attack into Tibet. If China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) captures any Indian territory, by quickly concentrating an attacking force over Tibet’s impressive road network, the Indian Army would not be forced into bloody, Kargil-style counterattacks to recapture that territory.

    It would also be supported by Indian Air Force (IAF) fighters, operating from newly renovated bases in northeastern India. On July 26, the then IAF chief confirmed that Sukhoi-30 fighters had already been posted to air bases at Tezpur and Chhabua.

    Source: http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/new-strike-corps-for-china-border/446854/


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    Post  Corrosion on Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:17 pm

    BTW location of Arunachal on India map
    Image Source: http://www.nkjlive.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/arunachalP1.JPG / Google Maps

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    Huge Indian Munition Deal in the works

    Post  TR1 on Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:23 am

    http://www.itar-tass.com/c9/390764.html

    http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-04-12/india/31330890_1_psu-bharat-dynamics-indigenous-arjun-tanks-avadi-heavy-vehicles-factory

    Is this true? The numbers are huge:

    25,000 Invar missiles. (Refleks)
    66,000 APFSDS rounds
    10,000 Konkurs-M

    Deal is around 1.2 billion dollars all things considered.

    This is huge, any Indian member want to comment?
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:36 am

    Well that will be good income for the Russian ammo makers.

    Of course if they are ordering for the upgraded T-72s and T-90Ss they have in service then they wont be selling their latest ammo... the new longer APFSDS rounds designed for the new gun for the T-90AM that operate at slightly higher pressures.

    25,000 gun tube launched ATGMs is a good number as well... hopefully they use the funds to upgrade their production facilities and also improve the missiles themselves.

    A main gun mounted in a tank is not going to be able to elevate more than 22-23 degrees but by using the terrain it should be possible to increase that elevation.

    I rather expect that in its external mount the gun on the Armata will be able to elevate higher and lower than current main guns to allow perhaps extended range engagements with lofted missiles. The added advantage of a lofted trajectory is that the missile would come in at a steeper angle which would negate the effect of angled armour plate so it would have less armour to penetrate, with the added advantage of a high flight path and steep dive onto the target making obstructions like trees and wires less of an obstacle.

    It is important to note they are talking about anti armour ammo, so APFSDS rounds, Svir ATGMs and AT-5 ATGMs, so locally produced HE shells are clearly not in short supply.

    I wonder if they are considering an order for Kornet-EM... its performance looks very very good on paper and its wireless control method would make it ideal for armoured vehicle and helicopter and even fixed wing use from manned and unmanned aircraft.

    With automatic target tracking the guidance accuracy will be much better than manually tracked systems especially if the launch platform comes under fire and has to evade.

    I am surprised that India hasn't chosen to create a joint venture with Russian companies to design a diving top attack fire and forget missile that can be launched from a 125mm smooth bore gun... it wouldn't need to be very big in terms of calibre because a diving top attack weapon is attacking the thin top armour of vehicles which is traditionally thin and vulnerable because it is normally do difficult to target properly.

    Radar guided Hellfire and Brimstone missiles prove an active radar seeker in MMW radar frequency can be mass produced cheaply, though they are 152mm calibre weapons.

    A decent small MMW radar seeker would be a very handy thing too, for missiles and even bombs.
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    Post  TR1 on Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:38 am

    Russian sources for a while now have been blaming the supposedly bad accuracy of Indian T-90s on sub-par ammunition made domestically. This might be vindication of that...

    10,000 Konkurs surprises me, did not know they have that many launchers.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:08 am

    Well poor accuracy with domestic APFSDS rounds is not much of a surprise... it is not the easiest thing to get right... considering they both use the same calibre I would think they would get together and develop new ammo in a joint venture... a new system to replace/upgrade ANIET, a new missile with fire and forget diving top attack flight profile and a new APFSDS.

    The thing is however that without the joint venture all this time the Russians have been working on their own and are probably getting the products they want already.

    The vast majority of their existing fleet has a similar gun to the gun they used in the 1980s, but their upgrades of T-72s and existing T-90s and new T-90s and Armatas means that most of their fleet, both operational and in reserve will have newer gun types able to handle higher pressure ammo that has been more recently developed, so the older lower pressure shorter penetrator designs will be made for export only.

    I am surprised they spent money on buying Konkurs... I would think in those sorts of volumes that it might be more efficient to buy a licence to licence produce them. Of course the plan might be to buy some now and then in a few years pick a replacement and licence produce that instead.
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    Re: Indian Army (IA): Equipment and News

    Post  Sujoy on Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:25 am

    Hey TR1 . Am sorry , was out of town for sometimes so did not check the forum threads on a regular basis . Yes, it is true that India is importing $1 billion worth of hardware from Russia . However, it's not just munitions but a couple of T 90S as well . Since the previous Army chief has raised an alarm bell about the lacuna in India's defense preparation India is now running from pillar to post to buy defense hardware .

    I hear Ukraine is trying to sell Anti Tank Missiles to India and India may even procure BVRAAM from Ukraine ( though the seekers for these missiles are designed in Russia).

    Apart from the ones that you have highlighted , Russia is also competing for India's $2.2 billion dollar QR-SAM program. Russia is fielding the TOR M1 9M330 . The other competitors are Rafael-IAI SpyDer, an upgraded version of Raytheon's MIM-23 Hawk or modified SLAMRAAM , MBDA - Maitri.

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    Post  Austin on Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:15 pm

    Ok here is some official information from Indian Army on the planned upgrade for T-90 Bhishma and T-72 , you can read the entire interview here but quoting the relevant part.

    T-90


    As the mainstay of the armoured fleet, the T-90 Tank is slated to receive state-of-the-art upgrades to maintain its dominance on any future battlefield. These modernisation schemes include an active protection system, improved Commander’s thermal imaging sights providing true ‘hunter-killer’ capability, an advanced muzzle reference system for retention of zeroing both by day and night and necessary software upgrades to optimise the capabilities of the fire control system. In addition to a modernised digital fire detection and suppression system, the tank will also be fitted with an environmental control system to ensure longevity of sensitive opto-electronic sub-systems. A project for fitment of an auxiliary power unit to enhance ‘silent watch’ capability and conserve engine life is also under way. As regards digitisation of the future battlefield, we plan to fit the digital control harness. In addition, the Army is considering introduction of a software defined radio (SDR) which will ensure real time data, voice and image transfer. The SDR hierarchy will also support the battlefield management system (BMS) being developed indigenously.

    T-72


    Tank T-72 comprises the majority of our tank fleet today. These are of 1972 vintage and need to be modernised to enhance their mission reliability. With this in view, we are in the process of replacing the existing engine with a more powerful engine, incorporating an auxiliary power unit, fitting a thermal imaging fire control system for the gunner with suitable night enablement for the driver and commander also. Other upgrades include the digital control harness and modernisation of the fire suppression system. To provide necessary realism to training; simulators for drivers, gunners and an integrated crew simulator for the crew are in various stages of introduction.

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    Post  Austin on Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:26 pm

    To me it seems the T-90 Upgrade program maps 90 % of what T-90MS provides except perhaps for the newer Gun and Relikt but not sure of they would replace the K-5 with Relikt.

    What missing on T-90MS is APS which Indian T-90 will have.

    The T-72 upgrade similarly includes all that Russian T-72BA upgrade program has except for new FC system but FCS upgrade for T-72 was planned not sure if its already done.

    All in All T-90 and T-72 will have a long life of 2 decades in the Indian Army after these upgrade are done by this decade.

    Meanwhile IA seems not keen to add more Arjun Mk2 in its inventory , Good Details on Arjun Mk2 program the real problem seems to be Weight , with those weight Arjun Mk2 seems to be all dressed but no where to go.

    Check out also the excellent interview on Arjun Mk2 by its developer CVRDE has good details on the program

    India's Arjun Mk.2 Tank Revealed


    One interesting thing they have done with Arjun Mk2 due to its increased weight of 67 T with Mine plough ( without it would be ~ 65 T ) was to keep its ground pressure low.

    What they did was to increase track width compared to Arjun Mk1 which has low ground pressure compared to T-90 but some one mentioned on Bharat Rakshak that increasing track width come with problem of wheels getting dislodged quite often and are more prone to ground mine per density since large track means more exposed area on ground.

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