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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:55 pm

    https://t.me/kalibrated/8430

    Fabs devastated Avdeevka, this saved so many lives for Russia

    They threw hundreds of bombs at whole sections of the city devastating Ukrainian lines of communications and logistics

    Allowing for Russia to more or less just take strategic positions like the Tsars Hunt, the air defense site, the quarry, 9th Kvartal and eventually the coke plant itself

    The staple of this combat was the overwhelming use of aviation

    Now we will see how they apply this in Rabotino sector, the VDV are clearing out the heights between Verbove and Rabotino (Russians occupied those heights during the counter offensive)

    Regaining the heights will allow for Rabotino to be cleared, and then prepare for Orekhov

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    Post  ucmvulcan Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:03 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Ukrs claim over 40,000 Russian KIA in Avdeevka since October Shocked

    So at least 40,000 Ukrainian KIA since October, that's about right. I have come to notice Ukraine projects onto Russia their losses and then everyone in the west buys into it without question.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:06 am

    IBRIS research showed that Vladimir Putin's interview with Tucker Carlson was watched by around 75 per cent of the Polish population.

    Putin's statement that "Russia will not start a war with the Poles unless they attack" reassured almost the entire Polish population, which was concerned about statements to the contrary by its own leadership.

    It also turned out that 40 per cent of Poles trusted the Russian president.

    This has alarmed the current Polish authorities, who are planning to work with young people to make them "pro-European".

    @ukraine_watch

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:20 am

    JohninMK wrote:Note how cameraman moved to a safe distance when his colleagues started opening boxes. thumbsup

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1759312167327736153

    Smart move by cameraman, these guys really shouldn't be rummaging through that stuff so carelessly, recipe for quick death and dismemberment

    Either do it with 30m rope and from behind cover or wait for engineers to do it for you

    It slow and boring but it's safe, it's not like they are in a hurry




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    Post  JohninMK Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:23 am

    Tass quotes retired Ukrainian officer Igor Lapin saying that the city of Zaporizhzhia is preparing for capitulation. Despite Selensky's talk of a new "defensive" strategy, not a single dragon tooth has been installed to stop Russian advances. People worry that Russians can not be stopped should they decide to take the city.

    https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/20002491

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:29 am

    Another from MoA

    "The real change in performance is as a result of the Russian military being in the end-cycle of assimilation and distribution of combat experienced personnel, using adapted SOP’s, whereas the Ukrainian’s are in the end-cycle of a decline and deterioration of their accumulated combat knowledge.

    The former only increases in strength, as force survival rates and thus combat knowledge accumulation steadily increase, the latter is the reverse, both cycles interact and influence each other, further accelerating the speed of the respective incline/decline cycles.

    The terminal glide path of Ukrainian combat effectiveness steepens daily, Western ISR/logistical/training support and sporadic deployments of high-end systems could only buy time, not reverse this age old phenomenon; however, this is how the intellectually mediocre and competency-challenged gamblers, who currently run the West, operate.

    Anything to extend their reign, days literally bought with the blood and tears of those they supposedly serve."

    Posted by: Milites | Feb 18 2024 17:48 utc | 41

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:31 am

    Delusion is strong

    This is the 3 Brigade version of what happened in Avdeevka yesterday, in their own pressrelease:

    THE THIRD ASSAULT BRIGADE SPOKE ABOUT THE WITHDRAWAL FROM AVDIIVKA AND THE LOSSES OF THE RUSSIANS

    From the moment of redeployment of the Third Separate Assault Brigade in Avdiivka, units inflicted significant losses on a key strike group of the Russian army. This was reported in the press service of the brigade.

    Despite a significant advantage in artillery, attack drones and the regular use of up to a hundred KABs per day, the enemy lost:

    more than 1500 dead;
    more than 3500 wounded;
    and more than 20 units of armored vehicles.

    "Until the moment of withdrawal, the fighters of the Third Assault Brigade did not allow the enemy to Make Complete encirclement of positions. The brigade retreated to prepared positions on the outskirts of Avdiivka and leveled the front line. Now the Russians are not depriving them of offensive momentum. We continue to hold the line.

    https://zn.ua/ukr/war/v-tretij-shturmovij-brihadi-rozpovili-pro-vikhid-z-avdijivki-ta-vtrati-rosijan.html

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    Post  mnztr Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:36 am

    there is some internet babble about a Tsirkon missile being used inn Ukraine. Would they bother? Anything credible out there?
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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:38 am

    Imagine the ukrainians and western europeans when Trump wins the US elections and has a few beers with the russians. lol

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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:25 am

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:Imagine the ukrainians and western europeans when Trump wins the US elections and has a few beers with the russians. lol

    Nah. Vodka shots.

    За здоровье! Twisted Evil

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:32 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    ArgentinaGuard wrote:Imagine the ukrainians and western europeans when Trump wins the US elections and has a few beers with the russians. lol

    Nah.  Vodka shots.  

    За здоровье!  Twisted Evil

    Trump has always been an admirer of Russia and Putin. It's what he wants for the United States and it's very good.
    If it were up to Trump, Russia and the United States would be military partners (to isolate China) and not the weak Western Europeans, who never pay anything and ask for protection.
    Isolating China is no longer possible, but perhaps the negotiations between Trump and Putin will bring a little peace to the world.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:43 am

    Trump has always been an admirer of Russia and Putin. It's what he wants for the United States and it's very good.

    Americans are stupid because they are so easily manipulated.

    Tell them that universal healthcare paid for by the government is communism and they will oppose it to the death.

    Their current healthcare system is broken and is the most expensive on the planet despite getting money from government and money from insurance companies it is still more expensive than it should be.

    By taking government funds (that takes money from everyone for shared things that everyone uses like roads and bridges and healthcare) then when all taxpayers fund the system there is enough money for everyone and everything you need. Some very specialist areas of medicine might require personal funding, but for most it is already paid for via your tax.

    The problem is that companies and the richest families makes enormous amounts of money on healthcare... drug companies spend all their money on advertising... most of the funding for new drugs comes from governments but the drug companies charge what they please for the drugs they develop with mostly government money.

    Putin took Russia from circling the toilet bowl at the end of the 1990s, to being strong enough to challenge the entire west... I am sure Trump would love to do that, but he is weak... just call him Putins puppet and he will impose sanctions on Russia to prove he isn't.

    Even if he was strong like Putin... he only has one term left... how can he fight the entire system that is geared to prevent the sort of changes he would need to make.

    What they need to do is break the power monopoly held by the Republicans and the Democrats so real democracy gets a chance... but the US is a republic and not a democracy.

    If it were up to Trump, Russia and the United States would be military partners (to isolate China) and not the weak Western Europeans, who never pay anything and ask for protection.
    Isolating China is no longer possible, but perhaps the negotiations between Trump and Putin will bring a little peace to the world.

    That is probably very true, but Russia and Putin have no reason to trust the US over China, and the EU is certainly weak... but they were only following orders till they realised they were shooting themselves in the foot... and eventually... eventually... they slowed down the rate of fire before they got to their own hips...

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:44 am


    Due to intrinsic military complexities, the Ukrainians are advancing backwards whereas the Russians are retreating forward.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:47 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Due to intrinsic military complexities, the Ukrainians are advancing backwards whereas the Russians are retreating forward.


    Coleslaw Baloney, Coleslaw Urination, forgive me while I am learning Russian, I am not quite sure how the Ukrainian language works, but that's what it sounds like when Nancy Pelosi says it with her right arm extended upward on the floor of the CONgress.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:00 am

    The mighty Ukro army is advancing in a modern style you don't understand, your dumbasses!

    Take one step forward, two backward, and identify yourself victorious!

    JohninMK wrote:IBRIS research showed that Vladimir Putin's interview with Tucker Carlson was watched by around 75 per cent of the Polish population.
    Putin's statement that "Russia will not start a war with the Poles unless they attack" reassured almost the entire Polish population, which was concerned about statements to the contrary by its own leadership.
    It also turned out that 40 per cent of Poles trusted the Russian president.
    This has alarmed the current Polish authorities, who are planning to work with young people to make them "pro-European".
    @ukraine_watch

    I can only confirm that, and give you a first hand explain.
    Poles are sick and tired of Ukraine.
    Not as much of Ukrainians who arrived here to work - they have been absorbed quite effectively.
    But the Ukrainian rulers.
    The arrogance of theirs.
    People are not blind. They simply see what is going on.
    Blockades at the border made millions of eyes in Poland wide open.
    People see the lorries full of luxury SUVs heading 404.
    A mass criminal activity, with thousands of tons of goods with counterfeited papers arriving and leaving.
    One of my favorite scenes was ... a nun with a truck that was carrying humanitarian aid according to the documents, while it was full of electric cables. No nun would have done this kind of shit on her own, so we can only guess that a Catholic Church is taking part in mass smuggling.
    Nothing new Laughing Laughing
    I was telling you about rotting corn and wheat my brother-in-law saw with his own eyes - it is nothing unusual now. Our farmers are making tons of materials about that.
    They have started to explain to the people, how the chemicals and fertilizers that were banned in the EU 20 years ago as being harmful, are being used there for food production.
    Without any hesitation.
    People are simply sick and tired, and slowly but steadily, the realities start to arrive in people's minds.
    Everybody here already knows that we are talking about giant global capital that simply purchased the 404.
    Knowing that, people are linking the dots, and finally started to realize what are the real reasons for this war.
    More and more people deny to buy products made of Ukrainian components.
    It is a mass movement, tons of groups on FB are chasing and revealing this crap.
    Farmers riots are widely respected and cheered.
    When I had a beer with my best buddies a year ago, they were shocked with the facts I have provided to them. Shocked, as it was the direct opposite of what they were being lied about daily.
    We had a beer last month, and I observed with real pleasure that they were already on the right side of the river. Only one of us was still wondering "How is that even possible", and this time, he was being persuaded not by me, but by my other buddies.


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    Post  Kiko Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:46 am

    Russian Troops Completely Liberate Coke and Chemical Plant in Avdeyevka, 02.19.2024.

    Russian troops have completely liberated the coke and chemical plant in Avdeyevka from Ukrainian forces, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Monday.

    "Battlegroup Tsentr, which is carrying out the offensive, has taken full control over the coke and chemical plant in the area of Avdeyevka. The Russian flag has been raised on the administrative buildings of the factory," the ministry said.

    Units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces continue their indiscriminate retreat, the ministry added.

    The Russian military hit the enemy fortified areas with artillery and aviation, and Battlegroup Tsentr continues active operations, the Defense Ministry said.

    Earlier, the ministry noted that the Russian military was carrying out the final clearing of Avdeyevka of Ukrainian troops, in particular units that were holed up in the local coke and chemical plant.

    https://sputnikglobe.com/20240219/russian-troops-completely-liberate-coke-and-chemical-plant-in-avdeyevka-1116867967.html

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:09 am

    Hell has opened its gates to a very special visitor, call sign 'German', hopefully with his subordinates around him.

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    A Ukrainian Azov brigade commander, Ulman Kirill, was eliminated in Avdiivka

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:22 am

    There are several obituaries of the prominent Azov members in the last few days.
    It gives a serious hint concerning the scale of damage inflicted on the battalion.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:32 am

    It seems FAB based glide bombs are rather more effective against bunkers and heavy positions than artillery shells alone are.

    Obviously the current crop of nazis are not to the same standard as before and I rather suspect the fact that captured Azov soldiers sent to Turkey to sit out the war who went straight back to the Ukraine front lines are regretting their decisions.

    I suspect it also coloured the ideas of accepting surrender from these guys for the Russian troops too... accept their surrender only to have to face them again in 6 months time...

    You can break the rules of war but most of the time it just bites you in the arse.

    Applies to sanctions illegally imposed on countries too.

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    Post  Hole Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:21 pm

    This has alarmed the current Polish authorities
    You should be worried when the head of another country has a higher trust rating in your country.  lol1

    People worry that Russians can not be stopped should they decide to take the city.
    People in Kijüf and Washington.

    Western ISR/logistical/training support 
    Western training made it worse.

    sporadic deployments of high-end systems
    Most of which were not as high-end as the systems the Ukros had at the beginning of the SMO.

    more than 1500 dead;
    That´s the number of Ukro losses published by the Russian MoD.  Rolling Eyes

    Until the moment of withdrawal, the fighters of the Third Assault Brigade did not allow the enemy to Make Complete encirclement of positions.
    Why did you leave then?
    And why told your first report that you are fighting a Baerbock (360°) defence?  unshaven

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    Post  marcellogo Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:33 pm

    mnztr wrote:there is some internet babble about a Tsirkon missile being used inn Ukraine. Would they bother? Anything credible out there?

    Not. Ukrainian themselves said it was an Kh-69 instead and annaunced that it prove that Su-57 was used to lauch it as no other plane could use it.
    Dumber and more dumber IMHO.
    First, they noticed a new weapons being used , so with out any preliminary check they announced it was the Zircon as there is actually an hype in the West about anything Hypersonic (even if many there didn't understand what they really are), after they got to examine it they ascertained it was another thing they corrected themselves making another gratuitous affirmation i.e. that Kh-69 could be used just by the Su-57 and not by others russian planes.
    And naturally the underlining discourse go always in the same direction: see what THEY have! Send US more weapons/money!

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Mon Feb 19, 2024 1:46 pm

    Yasinovata, a Donetsk suburb close to Avdeevka, saw its first day of peace in many years

    The head of the Yasinovatsky municipal district, Dmitry Shevchenko, said that for the first time the neighbourhood wasn't shelled.

    The fall of Avdeevka is already giving results and making people's lives safer

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Feb 19, 2024 1:54 pm

    More good news if they actually hit them

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:57 pm

    Arrow wrote:

    They really need to improve IFF

    These friendly fire incidents are so common now

    But at least the pilot was recovered as the friendly fire occurred over Rostov airbases

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    If they had a decent IFF, this would not happen , the batteries would see a friendly marker on radar

    But this is an area where there is a significant delay to change anything

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