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    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:23 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
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    Eastern Slavs are mentally weak. They have allowed Anglos to drive themselves into a situation where they are killing each other in hundreds of thousands while Anglos are cheering in the sidelines.

    Unfortunately,  The Anglo Saxon population does not meet replacement TFR rates

    America is overwhelmed with immigrants , and they are splitting into internal conflict

    The Russian world does not have these issues, TFR rates of 1.5 can be sustained and in 2027, the pro natal policies of Putin will mean TFR can reach 1.7, by the next decade TFR will be at 2.0

    You know what that means? Russia will experience population growth by 2040

    This small fraternal war managed some successes, but most of them overshadowed by the collapse of the post liberal economy, the replacement of Anglo Saxons with migrants, internal conflict, and balkanization of USA and Europe

    Russia on the other hand is expanding and actually has managed to re-establish a Slavic community with Slovakia, Hungary, Belarus, soon Ukraine, and possible Poland if things there change


    I hope you are right about in the end, I hope the Anglo world will be destroyed as much as anyone here. The only way the America can be destroyed is from within. No outsider can do it with nuclear war being the exception.

    Finnish media has been gloating about Russian population decline recently. They claim that Russia has lost hundreds of thousands of citizens in the past two years.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:34 pm

    Finland is about to ban Russians from buying real-estate in Finland and might also confiscate Russian-owned estates from Russians (I understand this includes ethnic Russians with Finnish citizenship as well).

    Russians have continued to buy real-estate in Finland in 2023. Such naive, stupid people buying property from a western country. They deserve to lose their property for being so naive.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:43 pm

    Major explosion in Russian city of Vyborg near Finnish border.
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    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:44 pm

    Speculation is that Primorsk oil terminal was hit.
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    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:59 pm

    Finnish social media is gloating about Vyborg explosion. Many hoping it was the Leningrad NPP that exploded.

    The explosion looked huge from the video.
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    Post  thegopnik Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:05 pm

    I don't know if your diagnosed with autism Karl, but try to keep 5 continuous posts into 1

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:09 pm

    Anyway, I have a strong gut feeling that this is only the beginning. The West and Ukraine are about to start a major terrorist war inside Russia. Many western politicians and medias have at least covertly said that the West is entitled to strike Russia directly, including civilian targets.

    This is my problem with Putin government. They are just so soft. The West knows this too. They are now testing the waters how far they can go without Russia retaliating.

    So far the Russian red line has not been crossed. When the West blows up the first Russian NPP will Putin finally react or mumble in silence and do nothing?

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    Post  Sujoy Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:12 pm

    The root cause of almost all wars since the end of WW2 is the Western mindset. They are adamant that Asians, Africans are inferior to them, but they need them to corner their resources.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:14 pm

    Sujoy wrote:The root cause of almost all wars since the end of WW2  is the Western mindset. They are adamant that Asians, Africans are inferior to them, but they need them to corner their resources.
    The problem is that Eurasians (which includes Asians, Africans and Russians) do not fight back properly. The Eurasians constitute the majority of world's population but they have let Oceania (North America, Europe, Australia and Japan) dominate the world and destroy Eurasian countries.

    Start fighting back for the goodness's sake!

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:19 pm

    Sujoy wrote:The root cause of almost all wars since the end of WW2  is the Western mindset. They are adamant that Asians, Africans are inferior to them, but they need them to corner their resources.

    Didn't your country India let the Britain rule over your country for centuries despite India having ten times the population of Britain?

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:53 pm

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:09 pm

    JohninMK wrote:

    The story sounds crazy propaganda, only as long as we won't recall multiple cases like that.
    Those people speak same language and have the same cultural code.
    Remind you a case when they were digging tranches 15 m one from another, considering them tobe their own.

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    Post  TMA1 Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:13 pm

    Getting eye cancer from reading those finn comments. These genetic rejects think they are like their great grandparents. Disgusting bootlickers for globohomo.
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    Post  ALAMO Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:19 pm

    TMA1 wrote:Getting eye cancer from reading those finn comments. These genetic rejects think they are like their great grandparents. Disgusting bootlickers for globohomo.

    They are 5 mln and decreasing. Only the fact that they have some local dog breeds keeps them red hair and alive.

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    Post  Backman Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:47 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
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    I seen that on one of the Telegrams too. All 148 POWs (2 planes) were going to be released to Ukraine on Zelenskys birthday. For a big PR song and dance. Sure, someone didn't want the PR event to happen. But what is that one PR event really worth ? It wouldn't be a game changer in the slightest. It would not move the needle one way or the other. The 148 troops would be worth more to send back to the front. So this can't really be the reason...

    148 POWs is nothing, they lose more than that per weekend

    Taking out enemy cargo plane and crew however, is definitely something

    All the reason you need



    Backman wrote:... Ukraine lost. Russia lost. .

    What did Russia lose exactly?


    It didn't happen to take down the plane. They could have just shot the fucking plane down after the POWs left the plane as it went back to Russia. What they did makes no sense as far as the plane goes.

    It was done to create the exact scandalous mess that we have. To maximize trauma for both sides.

    Russia lost the plane and the crew.

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    Post  TMA1 Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:03 pm

    That is a cute puppy. I guess finns are alright if they got puppies like that.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:56 pm

    So Putin himself has said that American or French missiles were used to down the plane

    I guess it's confirmation that it was SAM/PT or Patriot

    What's interesting is around that time an ELINT plane , specifically light recon VADOR - a French ISR plane was close to the border when the IL76 was shot down

    It means they coordinated the shootdown, that means the French did it with no regard for the Ukrainian POWs

    I say French because it's the most plausible,  after cooking 60 French legionaries with kimskander, it seems that they went for retribution

    Putin will respond with the Africa Corps currently landing in Burkina Faso, around 200 troops arrived

    I guess it's time to go French hunting in the Sahel with Wagner

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:13 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:So Putin himself has said that American or French missiles were used to down the plane

    I guess it's confirmation that it was SAM/PT or Patriot

    What's interesting is around that time an ELINT plane , specifically light recon VADOR - a French ISR plane was close to the border when the IL76 was shot down

    It means they coordinated the shootdown, that means the French did it with no regard for the Ukrainian POWs

    I say French because it's the most plausible,  after cooking 60 French legionaries with kimskander, it seems that they went for retribution

    Putin will respond with the Africa Corps currently landing in Burkina Faso, around 200 troops arrived

    I guess it's time to go French hunting in the Sahel with Wagner
    Why not attack French territory directly instead? The French attacked Russian territory.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:44 pm

    Our air defense systems, by definition, cannot carry out strikes on their aircraft, no matter how much the operator presses the button, our air defense systems cannot, the equipment is Putin

    ▪Weapons seized from the crash site of the Il-76, they say that this is an air defense system of France or the United States, it will be clear in a couple of days

    ▪What happened is a crime. Either through negligence or on purpose, but this is a crime

    ▪So that people in Ukraine know what really happened. The Investigative Committee will publish “to the maximum” all the circumstances of this crime

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:08 pm

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:58 pm

    Summary for 26 Jan 2024 by 19:14:zap:

    🔹In #Kherson Direction, a real drone war is unfolding near #Krynki. Russia is actively using Lancets, an effective solution for counterbattery warfare. Some of the best drone operators are working on the #Kherson front, and the enemy is on a real hunt for them. Today our MLRS worked powerfully on the AFU positions on the left bank.
    The AFU are sitting in basements, some are surrendering.

    🔹In the #Zaporozhye Direction, positional battles, and our forces are increasing their initiative. The tactics of small AFU groups remain ineffective. However, in some places the AFU has an advantage in artillery, speaking of "shell shortage", but they often produce more than ours. Their heavy "Baba Yaga" drones bombers also create a lot of problems for us.

    🔹In #SouthDonetsk Direction, near #Vremyevka, our forces repelled an AFU attack in the forest belt and are disrupting rotations near #Staromayorskoye. Our artillery is working very closely at the #Donetsk border. Near #Novomikhaylovka, south of #Konstantinovka and north of #Vladimirovka, 12 AFU strongholds have been suppressed, but our troops are in no hurry to go in. The AFU are shelling their former positions to prevent our army from advancing.

    🔹In #Donetsk Direction. our units, who have penetrated the AFU urban defence in the south of #Avdeyevka, have not yet managed to dislodge the AFU from an important area near the tram ring. The enemy is expectedly counterattacking. However, the AFU cannot turn the situation around. Our forces are more focused on holding their positions than on advancing towards the Khimik microdistrict. This is a high-rise development, an assault head on is fraught with heavy losses, so ours are carrying out a powerful artillery preparation. From #Avdeeevka there is a glow at night. They are gradually moving towards the Goluboye (Blue) Lake.

    🔹In #Bakhmut Direction, in #Bogdanovka, our drone pilots hit several buildings where the AFU was located during the day. (⚠Rybar reported a temporary retreat from the centre to the northern part) The assault on the heights beyond #Kleshcheyevka and the offensive from #Khromovo towards #Ivanovskoye (#Krasnoye) continues (⚠with success, reaching its border).

    🔹In #Svatovo Direction, on the #Seversk front, intensive fighting is going on south of #Belogorovka, ours have occupied the grey zone along the right bank of the #Seversky Donets, the AFU have withdrawn to #Grigorovka. Soon, our army will cut the supply between both villages, and then the AFU will be forced to withdraw from #Belogorovka. Now our forces are hitting with artillery and FPV on the ground, and the assault infantry is active in the underground tunnels of the industrial zone, using light infantry flamethrowers. From #Kupyansk sector, it is reported about the crisis in the AFU ammo supply. From the data that our scouts have received, it follows that personnel losses are up to 60%, and in some places there is no supply at all. This is the result of the work of our aviation and artillery. The front is generally standing.

    ☠On 24 January, the AFU hit a drone operators' training ground in the #DPR with HIMARS, as has become known. Near #Ilovaysk "Sudoplatov" took from cadets an exam on FPV-drone control. More than 20 people are reported dead. A great loss.


    https://t.me/sitreports/21841

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    Post  mnztr Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:03 pm

    I was thinking, the IL-76 missiles may be French, German or US. It came from the Kharkov area. Just around a week ago the Russias whacked the Frog mercs and killed 60 to 120 of them. Could it be that the survivors saw the red mist and took down the IL-76 against orders?
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    Post  Airbornewolf Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:17 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:

    Eastern Slavs are mentally weak. They have allowed Anglos to drive themselves into a situation where they are killing each other in hundreds of thousands while Anglos are cheering in the sidelines.

    This quote is enough to send you to Alamo's zoo exhibit.

    Mentally weak?. There is no basis for you to claim this other than predjudice.
    For the record, i am Dutch. Western europe and from one of the cheerleader nations for anti-russia hate.

    to give some background where i come from with my viewpoint:

    I met Russians and their equipment during my afghanistan tours. NATO land routes through Pakistan became impossible so a lot of logistics was done through air.
    NATO, could not even meet 25 percent of the logistical requirements for this. So they hired the Russians. As they already had experience.

    And this was the full package, Russian operated Antonov's and Ilyushins. MI helicopters like the MI-8's and 26's in Afghanistan, and Air corridors over Russia itself.
    They saved NATO lives, by flying in such bad weather conditions that NATO aircraft refused. And flying through enemy fire to make supply drops.

    NATO's way of working with the russians was still inhuman. For example, if their helicopter got shot up during approach to an NATO FOB they where left to their own outside the gate without NATO gaurds.
    No search and rescue if they got down, no supplies when they ask for it, etcetera.

    These Russian company's where mostly crewed with veterans, so after you get used to each other you get to talk.
    Russians always where open, direct and honest. And never deviated from their positions.

    Western MSM would like to just paint me as an tool of Putin, brainwashed by Russian propaganda.
    But **** that, i was not.

    Russians flew through enemy fire to make critical supply drops to NATO forward operating bases.
    I owe them for that alone, guys went home alive because of their actions.
    And never, was i ever told an opinion by them that did not turn out to be the truth.

    They have legitimate security concerns with NATO, that was then in 2006 but here we are, They have a war with Nazi's supported by NATO on their border.

    It is our Western side that looks down on any culture that they encounter, not the other way around.

    "they are Russians, you can not thrust them"
    "who cares about the afghan casualties?, Afghans are just collateral"
    "fucking arab terrorists everywhere"

    Or, probably my favorites during the Ukraine coup:

    "we already own the black sea port, the Russians are done"
    "These bandera guys are on our side"
    "who cares if the gear was supposed to go to the OSCE?. as long Kiev uses it, it is all good".

    Now, i served for around 10 years inside NATO.
    And i know one thing perfectly well. And that NATO is nothing but an shell that the U.S directly controls for it's foreign policy.
    It has no own identity or democracy.
    The U.S controls where it's members go, and in what capacity.

    NATO is not an defensive entity, but an offensive one.
    similar to how Rome used auxiliary's to control it's territories.

    Everywhere where NATO went, only destruction and destabilization remained in it's wake.
    all under the guise of "intervention"

    Everything NATO touched ended up in complete misery.
    Contemplated by Western elites that lack any moral compass whatsoever.

    so please, quit the racist shit.
    what Sujoy writes is correct.
    Shit, talk to anyone that comes from a nation that had dealings with NATO or one of their nations.
    Dislike/hatred does not come from nowhere, there is always a cause.

    And as a fellow Westerner, i sincerely do not agree with the worldviews you have here on display.
    quit swallowing the western MSM propaganda, Get some alternative media input like Telegram and broaden your horizons.


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    Post  lancelot Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:23 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Very cheap way to make sure Russia is not a threat
    Worked really well.
    NOT.

    This is this century's version of the Spanish Civil War. Russia has already figured out they need more glide bombs, loitering munitions, FPV drones, and weapons with AI target lock. They put those systems into production and are fine tuning them for effectiveness. At the same time they finally started taking artillery production seriously again.

    Russia pre-war had already massively increased the amount of cruise missiles and modern air to air missiles they produced. So at least they got that right.

    They vastly increased the production of rocket artillery and air defense systems post war.

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:08 pm

    Backman wrote:...
    It didn't happen to take down the plane. They could have just shot the fucking plane down after the POWs left the plane as it went back to Russia. What they did makes no sense as far as the plane goes....

    Hitting it on sight increases chances of success

    Had they waited they could have missed their window of opportunity



    Backman wrote:...

    It was done to create the exact scandalous mess that we have. To maximize trauma for both sides. ...

    You are being dramatic, it's just a cargo plane and some apes



    Backman wrote:...Russia lost the plane and the crew

    They can easily just buy a new one

    They should learn from this and not waste effort on superfluous humanitarian bullshit in the future

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