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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:53 pm

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    Military expert Alexander Zimovsky:
    “Orthodox brothers” the Greeks are selling their S-300, Tor, Osa and ZU-2-23 air defense systems received from Russia to Ukraine.
    This was the main condition of the United States when finalizing the deal for Greece to purchase American F-35s.

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    Greece is being paid by the US to make the transfer, as the US can't send money direct, until the Border deal is resolved, so they are funding Greece by different means and then Greece sends the kit.

    Clever, but not sustainable.

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    Turkey will be very happy with this decision. New F16s coming turdish way and also Canada ended embargo on aiming optics foe drones so Turkey can now have their way with their neighbour with no AA defense.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:20 pm

    Tit for tat on oil refineries, only Ukraine's is on a critical path whilst Russia's isn't.

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    Last night:

    🇷🇺🇺🇦 Consequences of a Russian missile attack on facility in Kremenchug.

    Apparently the Kremenchug oil refinery is on fire.

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    Wondering if this missile attack was just on storage facilities or processing units?...the latter more difficult to put back to work /repair

    In the week Ukraine attacked Ust Luga oil processing units, considerable damage sustained, will take some time to repair

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    Post  lancelot Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:29 pm

    https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Who-Will-Save-Ukraines-Dying-Refineries.html

    Article talking about the refineries in Ukraine.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:45 pm

    A vulture lays claim but not one in power.

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    If Ukraine fails in the war, we will lay claim to Transcarpathia - leader of the Hungarian far-right Mi Hazank party Laszlo Torocki

    Torotsky said his party advocates an immediate ceasefire, peace and a negotiated settlement in Ukraine.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:58 pm

    Is this normal? Shocked

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:58 pm

    12 months ago. It didn't age well Laughing

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    Post  Belisarius Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:26 pm

    It looks like the Bradley that "destroyed" the T-90M got fucked a week later.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:00 pm

    JohninMK wrote:A vulture lays claim but not one in power.

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    If Ukraine fails in the war, we will lay claim to Transcarpathia - leader of the Hungarian far-right Mi Hazank party Laszlo Torocki

    Torotsky said his party advocates an immediate ceasefire, peace and a negotiated settlement in Ukraine.

    Bro this is nothing, a while back Viktor Orban threatened that if Ukraine does something to gas pipelines Hungary AND Serbia will invade West Ukraine

    Everyone here was like "Wait, what?" affraid lol1




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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:08 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Is this normal? Shocked


    Damn, and here I thought my old EOD suit was a pain to wear... cry

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    Post  Backman Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:10 pm

    Putin advisor is pushing for Russia to lower it's nuclear threshold and start testing nuclear weapons. (I agree with this) 

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    Post  Hole Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:43 pm

    Is this normal?
    You can´t have too many magazines. Very Happy

    No AT weapon?
    No mines? No

    There is room for improvement.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:18 pm

    "room for improvement" Very Happy Very Happy

    Anyway this looks and sounds like another ammo dump cooking off.

    Do we think the SAM hit something or just gave up?

    Looks like the SBU doesn't have total grip on videos.

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    Post  Backman Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:53 am

    If Russia committed double the infantry to this war it would probably go more than twice as fast. The lines would simply be overwhelmed.

    I think Paul Craig Roberts is right. Russia isn't committing that much infantry to this war. Listen to the play by play on this war with History legends. He talks about the battle for Avdiivka. Russia gains some bridge head. Ukraine command counters with reinforcements. 100 infantry and 3 tanks. (which did not repel the Russians) These dinky battles do not play to Russia's strength. Numbers would play to Russia's strength. As it always has. This war is a cluster of small battles going along the front.



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    Post  sepheronx Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:10 am

    I think you go through circles but let's ask the question yet qgain: what's the rush?

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    Post  Scorpius Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:19 am

    Backman wrote:If Russia committed double the infantry to this war it would probably go more than twice as fast. The lines would simply be overwhelmed.
    All these fucking cretins who consider themselves brilliant experts cannot answer one single question: why would Russia move an active combat zone to undisturbed cities?
    To what? To arrange another Bakhmut or Mariupol? So that even more civilians die? Why should Russia now gather twice as many troops and carry out an active offensive?

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:36 am

    Scorpius wrote:
    All these fucking cretins who consider themselves brilliant experts cannot answer one single question: why would Russia move an active combat zone to undisturbed cities?
    To what? To arrange another Bakhmut or Mariupol? So that even more civilians die? Why should Russia now gather twice as many troops and carry out an active offensive?

    Mariopol operation was a must. Nobody would have left a half million city with existing enemy garnison inside so deep behind the frontline. Especially one that would have been supplied by the sea.  
    Artemovsk operation was an operational masterpiece that melted all Ukro reserves they had accumulated for "mighty offensive" and drained the NATO warehouses empty. Without it, they would surely achieve better results of Summer 23 offensive. Not reaching Azov sea, but getting in range of Berdansk and Melitopol was possible.
    Avdeevka operation is ongoing as we speak, with Ukrowehrmacht being bled white there again. Most of the brigades involved are less than half of nominal manpower, and Ukrs are forced to use nominally "elite" "president's own" brigade downgraded to regular cannon fodder.
    Not sure if you have marked an increasing number of Ukro side made vids, showing empty streets. There are no people there left. Men are hiding at home, coming out at night like fukin bats.
    They are clearly cracking, people are not deluding about peremoga and mighty victory. We are talking about half a year that clearly broke a neck of Ukro population. Cocainsky can spread his shit about taking care of soldiers and "we are not like them" only when visiting some a#hole countries in the west. Otherwise, own people would tore him apart, watching men being hunted down like dogs on the streets, in metro, buses and trams.
    There was a case when they raided a local Rada meeting under the pretext of "increasing effectiveness of a draft" only to take the city council members away Laughing
    Ukrainians are waking up. Took them long, but the zombification was hard.

    Edit : and some clearance about RBU6000 being used.
    It turns out, that those are being upgraded. The cumulative warhead is being replaced with a heavier high explosive one, with additional shrapnel elements. Acoustic fuze is removed in the process, and replaced with only striking one.
    I will try to find the material I have watched about the matter, because can't remember the feed now confused  
    That makes much more sense now, still wonder if this process pays off.
    But as Murphy's law says, if something looks stupid but works, it is not stupid.

    Edit 2 : OK, found that.
    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/111093

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    So the catch is, that because of a different fuze - there is much space left in the missile body, allowing of much increase of the explosive charge.

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    Post  Scorpius Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:19 am

    ALAMO wrote:Mariopol operation was a must.
    I'm not talking about the Mariupol operation. I ask, WHY should Russia repeat the destruction of cities and infrastructure? Ukry is already being disposed of at a good pace.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:08 pm

    The real question is, what are the definite goals of the Russian Federation?
    A different set of tasks was given to the armed forces at the very beginning of the conflict. It was to inflict operational defeat on the existing Ukrainian army and bring them down to the negotiation table. At this particular moment, there was still no danger to the territorial integrity of Ukraine other than Crimea and LDNR. I suppose that even the fate of "land corridor to Crimea" was not as much important. Russkie would give it away for non aligned status of Ukraine, I am pretty sure about that.
    But not after April 22, when a brokered deal was canceled by direct Johnsons order.
    An entirely different phase began - one that was targeting maximal damage to the NATO fighting capabilities.
    It combined both personnel elimination and destruction of the delivered hardware.
    But now I would say we face a third phase of the operation, whose main goal is to bankrupt the NATO.
    At all levels, not only financial, but what's more important - moral.
    The latest info about ammunition production in the US gives insane numbers like $8000+ per single round, and desired production to hit 300k a year "soon".
    They can't stand the first, and won't do much with the second.
    Nobody can.
    On the other hand, it gets clear that warehouses of giant arsenals stored by heavily militarized countries are wide open to the needs of Russian friends ... Who will pay for the favor with advanced military tech supplied, binding them together for decades to come.
    And bringing prices down for their military ...
    When this conflict ends, Russia will emerge as a major superpower, with a 2 mln strong military with the best first-hand experience in a major war.
    Conflict will reshape Russian society in the same way it did in the GPW.
    Strong people and powerful leaders will emerge, just as it was in the 60's, giving Russia at least two decades of stability.
    Led by improved and optimized administration, giant real industrial base and a condition closing to autarky in multiple aspects.
    Something that will be a great doorstep for further revolutionary changes, with new cities being build in Siberia, and pushing the social&economy more and more eastwards.

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    Post  Hole Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:12 pm

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    What AD doing? Very Happy


    But not after April 22, when a brokered deal was canceled by direct Johnsons order.
    That action showed more than anything else how delusional the western elites are.
    How deep inside their own dreamworld they are.
    Instead of going for some sort of "Minsk III" and turn Banderaland into a new Sweden (unofficial NATO
    member) they boasted about beating Russia on the battlefield. thumbsup

    Dumbasses.

    Who sow the wind...


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    Post  ALAMO Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:14 pm

    It can be fixed with a scotch tape only! Laughing

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    Post  franco Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:14 pm

    The strength of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) currently amounts to 880 thousand people. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky stated this in an interview with the German media holding ARD.

    In December 2023, he claimed that the number of ground units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces alone was about 600 thousand people.

    We have 880 thousand. We have a million-strong army. And at the same time, we have 30 million people now, right now 30 million people are working, and maybe even a little more. I can’t say the exact number – he noted.

    Zelensky added that 6.5-7.5 million people left Ukraine abroad; he also could not give an exact figure. The authorities, the head of Ukraine emphasized, plan to return citizens of mobilization age to the country. Russian President Vladimir Putin previously said that there are more than 600 thousand Russian military personnel in the Northern Military District zone.

    In February 2022, the strength of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was approximately 260 thousand people, of which about 250 thousand were in the ground forces. Ukrainian Defense Minister Rustem Umerov assured in September 2023 that the size of the Ukrainian army has more than tripled since February 2022, to 800 thousand military personnel. About one million more people are employed in the defense and security sector, he said.

    Meanwhile, both in Ukraine itself and in the West, in recent months there have been statements about a critical shortage of personnel in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It is noted that Ukrainian soldiers are tired from long battles, and losses, in turn, are only partially replaced, often by older and poorly trained recruits.

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    Post  franco Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:17 pm

    ALAMO wrote:It can be fixed with a scotch tape only! Laughing

    Over here we used to have a comedy show in which the main character (Red Green) used duct tape to repair everything...

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:29 pm

    This entire interview is a sick joke only provided to the western sponsors in a pathetic struggle for more begger cash.

    In one of his latest entries, Putin called a 7+ mln Ukrainians who escaped to Russia.
    Combine that with another 5-6 mln who are left in the west, all absorbed territories and Crimea, and we end up with MAYBE 20 mln people left at Kiev controlled territory.
    There is no way to challenge those data, as only official registered inflow of Ukrainians to Poland totalled 3.5 mln from 240222 toll mid May 22. In TEN WEEKS.
    The only misleading issue is, that after Russians withdrew it's forces as a result of peace agreements in Stanbul, some of those people went back to Ukraine, leaving close to zero net inflow in May/June of 22. But that has changed pretty soon.
    The number given for army is nothing more than a struggle to get more bribes, and the insanity of those numbers is getting clear only if we collide the stupidities they are saying with the reality.
    Like it was back in the beginning of 2023, when data provided by Ukrs suggested to the Brits that there mist be close to a quarter million casualties, as the numbers don't match.

    franco wrote:
    Over here we used to have a comedy show in which the main character (Red Green) used duct tape to repair everything...

    There was some comedy where everything was being made with hummus Laughing
    And we have a great comedy here about deserters from Austro-Hungarian army where a Shoewax was an answer t any struggle Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Hole wrote:
    Who sow the wind...

    An interesting memory note I have, is my discussion here regarding the outcome of the war I carried back in March 22 with some folks from my institute. It was a continuation of series of lectures, where I have presented multiple cases of Russian economy being reoriented to the East as early as beginning of 21. All the clear moves by Gazprom and other Russian giants have left no doubts that there is something really serious going on. Anyway, at the end of 21, by conclusion was that Russian energy export needs around a year to became independent from the western markets, and that is why they really don't care much about ending of binding contracts in 2023-26.
    Nobody believed in that.
    When the shit hit the fan, very first expectation of my noble colleagues was that Russia will bend over pretty fast, and beg for mercy.
    Again, I was trying to show them how delusional are those expectations, considering that covid limitations have showed how empty is the real economy of the combined west. They had an issue with getting a point, that if an economy shrinks by 45% in several months, and nothing monumental really happens, it means that it was a shadow economy of financial instruments, dog barbers and Hollywood.
    Nobody gets the point, that a real economy of the whole west is not as powerful if clashes with real resources&industry driven economy of Russia.
    Finally, one of my colleagues asked me openly, how do I predict the situation to look like in a year time period.
    When I told him, that in my opinion Russia will consolidate, speed up processes of reorienting to the east, never in predictable future to return to the business as usual status with the EU and "west", they all laughed.
    Well, I have nit discussed much with them for the last year +, must arrange some nice meeting there Laughing Laughing Laughing
    But not sure if they will be interested Laughing

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:39 pm

    Donetsk is again under Ukrainian shelling today. Multiple dead and wounded civilians.
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    The explosion looked huge from the video.

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