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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jan 02, 2024 5:34 pm

    We shall see if its true


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    One rumor, could be b.s. but worth sharing:

    "There have been 8 Kinzhal launches, all hit the targets which included one Patriot, a buried warehouse with AtacMS missiles, a buried AFU command post. According to some reports (confirmed by the Turks) 9 generals were killed, one of them Zaluzhny's deputy.

    Also in Odessa three warehouses and storage hangar of anti-ship missiles and Harpoon systems were destroyed. At this hour it is known about the destruction of a huge number of command centres with the British and Polish military. Happy New Year."

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    Post  franco Tue Jan 02, 2024 6:27 pm

    It's time for Russia to repay its biggest debt

    Victoria Nikiforova

    Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said that the Russian army completed the main task of 2023, thwarting the Ukrainian counter-offensive. Behind these dry words is the capture of Bakhmut and Marinka, the advance of our troops along the entire front line, panic in Kyiv, London and Washington, mass desertion of Ukrainians - from ordinary members of the Wesseushki to titled propagandists. This is hard and deadly work that our heroes have been doing for almost two years. But who are they, what do we know about them?

    Here a Russian tank enters into an unequal battle and, before our amazed eyes, destroys six armored vehicles and two enemy tanks. “This is our “Alyosha”!” - Drone operator Corporal Ilya Gavrilov shouts off-screen. The crew of the legendary tank (in a few days they will all receive the stars of Heroes of Russia ) is commanded by Lieutenant Alexander Levakov - a Cossack from the village of Lipovtsy in Primorye, a historian by training, a graduate of the Far Eastern Federal University .

    Our paratroopers have been holding the giant Gostomel airport near Kiev for two days, fighting against enemy forces that are an order of magnitude superior to them. Footage of the landing of our military then went around the whole world. The Kiev elite announced their destruction several times. “Two hundred Spartans”—the people called them then.
    One of the heroic paratroopers was Guard Sergeant Georgy Avramenko. He was posthumously awarded the Order of Courage. He was buried at the Serafimovskoye cemetery in St. Petersburg , although he lived there without registration: he just came one day, fell in love with the city on the Neva and could not part with it. Georgy Avramenko was a novice on the island of Valaam and did not immediately receive a blessing for military service. “I will not bless you in death,” the priest repeated to him.

    Here is the first hero of Russia to receive this title on the fields of the Northern Military District. An ordinary modern guy from Dagestan, he was fond of skiing and wrote poetry. In the battle, he was seriously wounded and blew himself up with a grenade along with the Wehrmacht. Then President Putin will say about his feat: “I am a Russian person. As they say, I have Ivans and Marys in my family. But when I see examples of such heroism as the feat of the young guy Nurmagomed Gadzhimagomedov, a native of Dagestan, Lak by nationality, I want to say : “I am Lak, I am Dagestani, I am Chechen, Ingush, Russian, Tatar, Jew, Mordvin, Ossetian...”

    These people are the salt of our earth. This is its aristocracy, its intelligentsia, its elite in the true sense of these words. The stories I told above alone would be enough for several wonderful films, novels, and TV series. However, in our cultural community there is a deafening silence on this topic. No films or plays about their exploits. Everyone seems to be waiting for something.
    Meanwhile, people's love for heroes is enormous. Recently there was information on social networks that a veteran of the Northern Military District, who received a disability at the front, was being rude to his neighbors. How indignant people were, how many letters they wrote to the veteran with words of support. This is all done sincerely, from the heart.

    The last words of fallen heroes are embroidered on chevrons. Poems, songs, and videos are dedicated to them. Folk art on SVO themes, by the way, is simply in full swing. Recently, at a meeting between Putin and graduates of military schools, a pilot read poetry. There is a line: “Meet daddy, bitches!” - these are the last words of the pilot of the Wagner PMC, Hero of Russia Alexander Antonov , who sent his burning plane into a column of armored vehicles of the Ukrainian Armed Forces .
    Yes, it's not as romantic as "Let's live!" in the film “Only Old Men Are Coming to Battle,” however, there is a suspicion that the real prototype of “Darkie,” Evgeny Bykovsky, also shouted something obscene before his death, may Roskomnadzor forgive us .

    The scenes from the fields of the Northern Military District are amazing. Two hundred and seventy-two people during this time were awarded the title of Hero of Russia there. There is no doubt that if this had happened to the American military, Hollywood would have already made dozens of inspiring films on the topic, and they would have done it not carelessly, but from the heart. This is not the case with us yet. Although why shouldn’t the same Zhora Kryzhovnikov, after his wonderful “A Boy’s Word,” take up the story of the North Military District?

    Unfortunately, the Soviet skills of creating wonderful films about intelligence officers, paratroopers, and sailors have become a thing of the past. We have forgotten how to glorify our heroes. Recently, the legendary Major General of the Airborne Forces , Hero of the Soviet Union Alexander Soluyanov died in Moscow . If he had been born a hundred years ago, Simonov and Tvardovsky would have written poems about his exploits, and Bondarev and Bykov would have written novels about his exploits . Today, the name of the hero of the Afghan war means almost nothing to anyone.
    The only thing that the media remembered was that Nikita Mikhalkov , when the Lyube group invited him to make a video for the song “Batyanya-Bat Kombat,” talked with the paratroopers who served in Afghanistan, and they said that they should call him for the role of his father-commander namely Soluyanov. The sad irony is that Mikhalkov never filmed this video. And the modest Soluyanov said that this was correct; others, they say, served even better.

    Since then, how many videos have we released with all sorts of vulgarity, with I don’t understand who in the leading roles. How offensive it is.
    By the way, if we remember the Afghan war, then the capture of Amin's palace - the legendary "Storm-333" - is considered in the West one of the most brilliant Russian military operations. It is studied in the world's leading military academies. Do you remember at least one of our films glorifying this feat? And I don't remember. Meanwhile, the Americans manage to make uplifting patriotic films even based on the material of their shameful defeats - take, for example, "Black Hawk Down."
    I want to talk endlessly about the heroes of the Northern Military District, meanwhile all the information fields are clogged by some murky Blinkens and Bidens. It would be nice if they were real politicians, but they are just hired clowns on the payroll. It is not they who are creating world history today. It is made in Novorossiya by Alexander Levakov and Ilya Gavrilov, Evgeny Kudinov and Andrey Mityashin. Let's not forget their names and faces.
    Today, our military personnel flawlessly fulfill their duty to the Motherland. But how do we fulfill our duty to them?

    https://ria-ru.translate.goog/20231227/svo-1918318135.html?in=t&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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    Post  franco Tue Jan 02, 2024 6:33 pm

    Chairman of the People's Council of the Donetsk People's Republic Artem Zhoga said that Russian President Vladimir Putin awarded Major General Vladimir Frolov the title of Hero of Russia posthumously.

    “On December 25, by decree of the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, Major General Vladimir Petrovich Frolov was posthumously awarded the title of Hero of Russia,” he wrote on January 2 in Telegram.

    Zhoga said that Frolov was the deputy commander of the 8th Army and died heroically in March 2022. The circumstances of his death were revealed by captured marines of the Ukrainian Armed Forces . So, during fierce clashes, the major general took the battle along with his comrades. Ukrainian militants wanted to capture him alive, but Frolov did not give up and fought back. He was killed by a Ukrainian sniper.

    “They gave the order to the sniper to take him down so that he wouldn’t kill us all, because he stood until the end,” Zhoga quoted one of the Ukrainian prisoners as saying.

    Captured militants showed Frolov’s burial place; the major general was reburied at the Serafimovskoye cemetery in St. Petersburg, where his relatives and comrades were able to say goodbye to him.

    https://iz-ru.translate.goog/1629578/2024-01-02/zhoga-soobshchil-o-nagrazhdenii-general-maiora-frolova-zvaniem-geroia-rossii-posmertno?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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    Post  franco Tue Jan 02, 2024 6:38 pm

    So the dastardly Russians have been hacking into Ukrainian public online video cameras to record the results of their missiles and drones affraid Embarassed

    "The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) dismantled web cameras that filmed the work of air defense (air defense) in Kiev.

    “The security service, without delay, established addresses and dismantled web cameras that broadcast the work of air defense and the locations of critical infrastructure in Kyiv,” a message on Telegram said on January 2.

    In total, about 10 thousand cameras were blocked. The SBU called for stopping online broadcasts and reporting detected cases of streaming from video devices."
    Twisted Evil russia

    https://iz-ru.translate.goog/1629668/2024-01-02/v-sbu-zaiavili-o-demontazhe-snimavshikh-rabotu-pvo-veb-kamer-v-kieve?main_click&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:19 pm

    They are only hiding the fact that population is not scared anymore.


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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:26 pm

    ALAMO wrote:They are only hiding the fact that population is not sacred anymore.

    Was a population ever sacred to its rulers?
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:37 pm

    lyle6 wrote:
    The better solution is for more powerful, wider coverage jammers based on larger AFVs with substantial onboard power generation reserves. Think the more portable versions of the pickup based Repellent Patrul on the Armata chassis that can keep up just behind the armored strike package while providing the required multiple km umbrella to allow the vehicles the proper space to maneuver. These self-protection suites simply have very small coverage areas which makes the artillery's job a lot easier.

    There are such jammers, but a squad or platoon that has been dropped off by BMP

    Does not have the luxury to receive sector wide jamming by such systems

    Unless they are on the most critical areas of the front, they are basically on their own, with FPV and local drone CAS

    So it is imperative for a platoon sized unit operating in one of the lesser strategic sections of the front to have their own portable jamming station which ensures that the platoon can defeat enemy Ukrainians

    We have seen that our platoons are better trained and better equipped and usually defeat their VSU counterparts

    But with these jammers, it will result in a qualitatively new level that allows even greater freedom of maneuver and independence to the smallest unit of the Russian army

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    Post  Airbornewolf Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:44 pm

    polished up the footage and put it together.

    I tried getting the kinzhal in slow motion. but the thing barely got captured in the frames before impact.
    what a weapon  Cool



    Meanwhile, in Western MSM disneyland:

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #52 - Page 5 Shall_10

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:24 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Wow, just WOW!!!


    WTF, dipshits straight up blew themselves up   Cool

    This is some Wile E. Coyote shit right there, forget Australia, Ukrs are buying AA defense from Acme Inc  lol1


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    Post  Hole Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:47 pm

    polished up the footage and put it together.
    Incredible how western SAM systems manage to get out of the way of incoming russian missiles. lol1
    And the Ukros always manage to move some civilian building into the way of those missiles to destroy them. lol1 lol1

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    Post  d_taddei2 Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:50 pm

    If this is the case then why shouldn't Russia hit those tanks. Europe had been supplying Ukraine with everything, ammo, weapons, mercs, intel, troops(de facto), money, applying sanctions. And this is the only way Ukraine can do some form form of pay back to it's euro backers. If Russia hit these tanks Europe would be forced to buy more expensive gas from USA or from Russia through the back door method. Why shouldn't Russia plunge Europe into an energy crisis. To me this is a no brainer, hit those tanks.

    Ukraine’s gas storage helps Europe avert further energy crises

    https://www.ft.com/content/d02a5c8e-8406-40e5-91a4-a58fb4dd1565

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    Post  lyle6 Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:16 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    There are such jammers,  but a squad or platoon that has been dropped off by BMP

    Does not have the luxury to receive sector wide jamming by such systems

    Unless they are on the most critical areas of the front,  they are basically on their own, with FPV and local drone CAS

    So it is imperative for a platoon sized unit operating in one of the lesser strategic sections of the front to have their own portable jamming station which ensures that the platoon can defeat enemy Ukrainians

    We have seen that our platoons are better trained and better equipped and usually defeat their VSU counterparts

    But with these jammers, it will result in a qualitatively new level that allows even greater freedom of maneuver and independence to the smallest unit of the Russian army
    You're losing sight of the overall picture. FPVs are just an effector in the recce-fires complex. There is artillery, both tube and rocket, and missiles and air power. To regain the freedom to maneuver, you need to dismantle key enablers of the kill-chain that allows your opponent to call on these fires assets with minimal reaction times. That means targeting the pervasive drone spotter screens, the signals infrastructure, HQ, key logistics nodes and so on.

    The first one is especially crucial because so much of maneuver relies on surprising the enemy and retaining enough combat power until contact. If your assault package is detected before it even leaves the jump-off point and the enemy has time to concentrate his maneuver and fire assets the chances of success dwindles to the minimum unless you are attacking with such a massive advantage in numbers and firepower that you can absorb the punishment and/or suppress their fires assets as you go along.

    That means jammers that can deny the airspace from many kilometers away, far enough to render their sensors ineffective at detecting your troops. Because if they can't use their drones to spot your forces then your opponent will be forced to dilute his forces and his fires to defend. And if you're only dealing with a small portion of your opponent's strength at a time the chances of success becomes much higher.

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    Post  Backman Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:59 pm

    mnztr wrote:
    zorobabel wrote:The Belgorod attack is a good reminder why the "we don't need to capture territory" argument is brain dead stupid.

    Territory must be captured and a large buffer zone must be created to protect civilians.

    Well that is a nice thought, but the territory you would have to capture is Kharkov. That is a big city and that would be very costly to take by force.
    Not if enough forces are brought to the fight. If Russia assembled a 250-300.000 just for the city alone , it would get overrun similar to Mariupol. If Russia tries to take it with similar amounts of troops as Ukraine has there , then it will be long and costly.

    Russia has no choice anymore. Odessa and Kharkov are US controlled cities and they cannot stay that way

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    Post  thegopnik Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:23 pm

    The 2 things I am curious about the most is

    1) a time estimate of when they will push west enough to reaching the middle of Ukraine in which F-16s or any aircraft will be within reach to get hit by artillery and drone strikes besides missile strikes.

    2) a time estimate of when Odessa will be taken so we dont have to hear any news anymore of Russian ships getting hit.

    If a day comes that both of these points are met anyone that ever supported ukraine will immediately forget about it as a lost cause to cheer for.
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    Post  Regular Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:56 am

    thegopnik wrote:The 2 things I am curious about the most is

    1) a time estimate of when they will push west enough to reaching the middle of Ukraine in which F-16s or any aircraft will be within reach to get hit by artillery and drone strikes besides missile strikes.

    2) a time estimate of when Odessa will be taken so we dont have to hear any news anymore of Russian ships getting hit.

    If a day comes that both of these points are met anyone that ever supported ukraine will immediately forget about it as a lost cause to cheer for.

    We are here for a long haul. Don’t expect any big arrows any time soon. We can expect generational kill and continuation of grinding. Putin would like to end this war as quickly as possible, but 2-3 years are possible. If things will be as they are now, it will very bloody year. All depends how smart Ukrainians will be and how suicidal will be their leaders. Watch Arestovych for chaos agent, he could change whole dynamics

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    Post  kvs Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:51 am

    In his latest video, Mercouris speculates that the Kiev regime could be turning off internet (and power) in Kiev and elsewhere to control information
    flow to the Russians about the amount of damage that is being done. This is fully consistent with the Kiev regime policy of suppressing any
    civilian recording of damage. It also reflects the utter delusion of the Kiev regime and its NATzO handlers about the state of Russian intelligence
    gathering ability. These retarded clowns really think that Russia is desperate for some cell phone videos to evaluate the impact of its air strikes.
    Russia lacks satellites like it lacks washing machines and toilet bowls. These retarded f*cks need to be beaten down simply for having such
    opinions.

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    Post  Krepost Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:24 am

    Back to the subject of old gun mounts on Russian warships in the Black Sea.

    Not only the old 25mm twin mount has been brought back to service.
    This picture below shows the old Krivak class Ladny adding the old 2M-1 mount (twin 12.7mm) to combat surface drones.


    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #52 - Page 5 Gco-zr10

    This is the 2M-1 (displayed in a military museum):

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    The Ladny has also added at least 2 single 12.7mm machine guns as well (on each side of the 2 twin 76mm gun turrets). One of them can be clearly seen in this recent photo (both are visible on the previous photo):

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #52 - Page 5 02-11911

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    Post  RTN Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:39 am

    Russia suffering more setbacks. State of the art system destroyed

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    Post  Lapain Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:13 am

    RTN wrote:Russia suffering more setbacks. State of the art system destroyed


    Dunno, looks as destroyed as my toe when hitting the bed frame..

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    Post  Lapain Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:17 am

    Regular wrote:
    thegopnik wrote:The 2 things I am curious about the most is

    1) a time estimate of when they will push west enough to reaching the middle of Ukraine in which F-16s or any aircraft will be within reach to get hit by artillery and drone strikes besides missile strikes.

    2) a time estimate of when Odessa will be taken so we dont have to hear any news anymore of Russian ships getting hit.

    If a day comes that both of these points are met anyone that ever supported ukraine will immediately forget about it as a lost cause to cheer for.

    We are here for a long haul. Don’t expect any big arrows any time soon. We can expect generational kill and continuation of grinding. Putin would like to end this war as quickly as possible, but 2-3 years are possible. If things will be as they are now, it will very bloody year. All depends how smart Ukrainians will be and how suicidal will be their leaders. Watch Arestovych for chaos agent, he could change whole dynamics

    Yep, no big arrows to me, till at least when the Russians and Chinese find a proper way to reduce the FPV threat to a minimum, sort of when the first WW1 tanks started appearing. Or when the usurpating state collapses on its own, whether by lack of funds or manpower or ammunition or all these options.

    I personnally anticipate a massive financial crash by late 2024 which will seal the deal as far as Ukrying goes.

    We shall see.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:19 am

    lyle6 wrote:
    You're losing sight of the overall picture. FPVs are just an effector in the recce-fires complex. There is artillery, both tube and rocket, and missiles and air power. To regain the freedom to maneuver, you need to dismantle key enablers of the kill-chain that allows your opponent to call on these fires assets with minimal reaction times. That means targeting the pervasive drone spotter screens, the signals infrastructure, HQ, key logistics nodes and so on.

    The first one is especially crucial because so much of maneuver relies on surprising the enemy and retaining enough combat power until contact. If your assault package is detected before it even leaves the jump-off point and the enemy has time to concentrate his maneuver and fire assets the chances of success dwindles to the minimum unless you are attacking with such a massive advantage in numbers and firepower that you can absorb the punishment and/or suppress their fires assets as you go along.

    That means jammers that can deny the airspace from many kilometers away, far enough to render their sensors ineffective at detecting your troops. Because if they can't use their drones to spot your forces then your opponent will be forced to dilute his forces and his fires to defend. And if you're only dealing with a small portion of your opponent's strength at a time the chances of success becomes much higher.


    I agree with what you are saying, however, in Avdeevka, the Russian infantry is not under fire by artillery, aviation, and so on

    It is being stifled by FPV swarms

    So the overwhelming advantage of Russian fires, is nullified by Ukrainian defensive tactics

    They are virtually disappeared - and the Russian infantry cannot surface without coming under immediate hail of FPV

    Using jammers in Avdeevka with power to barrage the EM spectrum would degrade ukro signals and deny them the ability to use these FPV

    But it would also block out the very same signals that the military is using for its own drones

    This is why Putin himself commented on the situation with EW as of yesterday, and basically by using a direct line with troops, and innovative way has been created where the MOD gets tips from above on streamlining procurement of systems

    That's why right now there is a scramble to ramp up production of portable jammers - and you are starting to see videos of these new systems popping up everywhere

    By improving the survivability of Russian platoons and squads, the potency of their attack becomes much greater as they no longer have to worry about drone swarms

    And can focus on tactical nuance of combat

    Ultimately that's how Russia wins the war, by being more disciplined, better trained, and just generally better in spite of western ISR systems

    In essence, accepting they can see what you are doing but can't do much because they are overmatched on the frontline

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    Post  Backman Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:23 am

    I was curios about the Luch company so I went to the website. https://www.luch.kiev.ua/ Its down Database connection error (2): Could not connect to MySQL.

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    Post  Backman Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:59 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
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    You're losing sight of the overall picture. FPVs are.


    I agree with what you are saying, however, in Avdeevka, the Russian infantry is not under fire by artillery, aviation, and so on

    It is being stifled by FPV swarms

    So the overwhelming advantage of Russian fires, is nullified by Ukrainian defensive tactics

    They are virtually disappeared - and the Russian infantry cannot surface without coming under immediate hail of FPV

    Using jammers in Avdeevka with power to barrage the EM spectrum would degrade ukro signals and deny them the ability to use these FPV
    d on the frontline

    Russia should probably also make flying kinzals into FPV plants a weekly occurrence if possible. The missile forces haven't been properly active for awhile

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    Post  Backman Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:06 am

    JohninMK wrote:We shall see if its true


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    One rumor, could be b.s. but worth sharing:

    "There have been 8 Kinzhal launches, all hit the targets which included one Patriot, a buried warehouse with AtacMS missiles, a buried AFU command post. According to some reports (confirmed by the Turks) 9 generals were killed, one of them Zaluzhny's deputy.

    Also in Odessa three warehouses and storage hangar of anti-ship missiles and Harpoon systems were destroyed. At this hour it is known about the destruction of a huge number of command centres with the British and Polish military. Happy New Year."

    There has been flights tracked to Romanian hospitals. Lets just keep an eye on the news for Nato personnel dying in car accidents and small plane crashes

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:17 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    ALAMO wrote:They are only hiding the fact that population is not sacred anymore.

    Was a population ever sacred to its rulers?

    I was to write "scared", but this bloody autocorrection in my phone knew better Laughing
    Corrected.

    My point is that it is becoming clear that people are getting more and more annoyed.
    So much annoyed that it overruns a regular fear of being targeted by the SBU.
    Today I watched several shorts with Ukrainians commenting on the strikes in Charkov regarding "hotels". Openly admitting that hotels in the entire city are stuffed with military.

    Things like this :

    https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/97490

    Are starting to be notorious. This is also something I have seen multiple times.

    Regular Ukrainians are slowly getting the clue.

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