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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:23 am

    Some social media accounts are spreading rumors about Putin's heart attack.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:41 am

    Regular wrote:

    Keep an eye on the south as well. 

    NATO ISR is the problem as I mentioned, not much can be done realistically speaking, best to learn how to work under it and this is not new. Ukrainians idiocity was best Russian ISR in their counter offense.

    And after Donbass, in my opinion Russia can put this into slow burner and let war production do its work. Anyway, in my opinion, Ukrainians will have an option to suicide against Russia or negotiate, because after this counter offence, they can’t expect much. Their whole shtick is now hoping on F-16…

    In the south, advancing by Optyne is a diversionary advance, which only forces Ukrainians to have to man those sections of the front

    The main push, where storm Z and Wagner will enter, is south west of the terrikon

    They need Stepove, that's why they lost so many tanks to take it

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    Once they get in, they can cutoff MSR by fire

    It will be a tough battle, which will cost thousands of lives to take it

    But this is the cost of such an inept leadership, with such an approach to the war

    They're literally sandbox testing urban assault, from Mariupol, Bakhmut, Lisichansk, Severodonetsk, Soledar to Avdeyevka

    This is how fucked up it is, the men who were in Bakhmut, suffered tremendously from the scale of battle

    And what will it be here? Any different?

    No, instead of protecting ours, and leveling the nazis like Israelis are doing

    Ours will storm a fortefied coke plant, with nothing but a pat on the back, and congratulatory postings




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    Post  Airbornewolf Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:16 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    Regular wrote:

    Keep an eye on the south as well. 

    NATO ISR is the problem as I mentioned, not much can be done realistically speaking, best to learn how to work under it and this is not new. Ukrainians idiocity was best Russian ISR in their counter offense.

    And after Donbass, in my opinion Russia can put this into slow burner and let war production do its work. Anyway, in my opinion, Ukrainians will have an option to suicide against Russia or negotiate, because after this counter offence, they can’t expect much. Their whole shtick is now hoping on F-16…

    In the south, advancing by Optyne is a diversionary advance, which only forces Ukrainians to have to man those sections of the front

    The main push, where storm Z and Wagner will enter, is south west of the terrikon

    They need Stepove, that's why they lost so many tanks to take it

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    Once they get in, they can cutoff MSR by fire

    It will be a tough battle, which will cost thousands of lives to take it

    But this is the cost of such an inept leadership, with such an approach to the war

    They're literally sandbox testing urban assault, from Mariupol, Bakhmut, Lisichansk, Severodonetsk, Soledar to Avdeyevka

    This is how fucked up it is, the men who were in Bakhmut, suffered tremendously from the scale of battle

    And what will it be here? Any different?

    No, instead of protecting ours, and leveling the nazis like Israelis are doing

    Ours will storm a fortefied coke plant, with nothing but a pat on the back, and congratulatory postings





    newsflash buddy, your army does not want anything to do with genocidal bastards down in the Middle East.
    also, good for you you became an expert on assault tactics. when can we expect you leading the assaults?.

    To have talk like that, usually it is based on experience.

    So, you have any experience in the army?. in combat roles or you just like to talk fancy around here Private Hudson? Wink.

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    Post  Serberus Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:32 am

    Took a break from the "smo" for a few months and I see nothing of note has happened,  Russia still employing ww1 tactics and unable to liberate even donbass, Ukronazis still conducting bonzai attacks...
    Might take a 12 month break this time around, but doubt anything will change unless Cuctin does indeed have a heart attack and someone who isnt content with fighting the Ukronazis to a stalemate takes over and actually wants to win this thing...

    russia  attack

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    Post  sepheronx Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:31 am

    Airbornewolf wrote:

    newsflash buddy, your army does not want anything to do with genocidal bastards down in the Middle East.
    also, good for you you became an expert on assault tactics. when can we expect you leading the assaults?.

    To have talk like that, usually it is based on experience.

    So, you have any experience in the army?. in combat roles or you just like to talk fancy around here Private Hudson? Wink.

    He admitted of having none. He relies entirely on "knowledge" from certain telegram and Twitter groups. Judging how he posts, he never hear half the locations before hand like most of us. But besides yourself and a few others, rest if us don't profess to be professionals.

    But hey, the best soldier and general is one who didn't serve. Arkh can resolve this situation in a single day. And, he doesn't need intel groups because he will rely entirely on telegram, reddit, X, 4chan and others.  Because they know better, right?

    Serberus wrote:Took a break from the "smo" for a few months and I see nothing of note has happened,  Russia still employing ww1 tactics and unable to liberate even donbass, Ukronazis still conducting bonzai attacks...
    Might take a 12 month break this time around, but doubt anything will change unless Cuctin does indeed have a heart attack and someone who isnt content with fighting the Ukronazis to a stalemate takes over and actually wants to win this thing...

    russia  attack

    Except, dumbass, is that Ukraine has like 500K dead and their entire counter offensive of Ukraine has ended up with more lost territory.

    Don't you have to go surrender or something already?

    Garry, why do we keep people with room temp IQ here again?  They provide not even 1 iota bit of benefit besides flooding the thread with their professional and experienced opinion on how they are tacticians and diplomats

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:Some social media accounts are spreading rumors about Putin's heart attack.

    Mad

    So?

    And like all previous times claims and about others like Kadyrov, they end up making themselves stupid and unreliable. Well, for everyone else besides Serberus, Arkh, Karl, Ubermench guy and other professionals.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:28 am

    Some social media accounts are spreading rumors about Putin's heart attack.

    That is really going to effect his cancer treatment and make his Parkinsons disease much much worse...

    Took a break from the "smo" for a few months and I see nothing of note has happened, Russia still employing ww1 tactics and unable to liberate even donbass, Ukronazis still conducting bonzai attacks...

    We enjoyed the break... thank you.

    Not much has changed because not much needed to change... Russians still killing Ukrainians, but funding and support for Kiev is being distracted and diluted and the western support for Ukraine and western support for Israel is making them look like the hypocrites that they are... which is going to further erode their support because they were essentially only getting support from the west and now western critics are popping up wondering why the west thinks damaging Russia and actually making it a real enemy is in western interests at all.

    (hint it isn't, but that ship has sailed...)

    The point is that this fight is also damaging the west and making western companies... ie parasites that have been feasting on Russian money and resources for the last 20 years pack up and leave... this is a good thing for the Russian economy and culture and for the future of BRICS in general.

    The more this divides Russia and the west the better it is for Russia.

    If the war ended tomorrow you can bet the Europeans would want to come back to the Russian market and return to making good money and extracting it out of the Russian economy and injecting it into their own pockets overnight.

    Russia wins when Kievs forces are crushed... it might take another 12 months... the alternative is a repeat of 2014 and a delay of 5 years while they build up their forces and their fake country economy and have another go at Russia and even more Russians will die and possibly fewer Kiev supporters will die.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:41 am

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:Some social media accounts are spreading rumors about Putin's heart attack.

    Mad

    He's a very sick man, COVID, Cancer, Syphilis, Bubonic Plague, AIDS, two diseases doctors discovered in just him, heart disease, fibromyalgia. Well here let me explain. This door is Putin. These novelty diseases are all the diseases he has. As you can see they all counteract each other. What I am saying is he is virtually indestructable

    With apologies to the Simpsons episode where Burns goes to the hospital

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    Post  mnztr Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:35 am

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:We gotta talk about the FOAB, guys. It exists, or at least it did, but:

    1. There is to my knowledge only one single reel of footage of it, and that was more than a decade ago.

    2. The footage clearly shows an incredibly powerful thermobaric charge, and its aftermath, no questions there.

    3. ...But the footage is dodgy for other reasons: the hideously unaerodynamic contraption shown clearly rolls out of the cargo compartment of an airlifter á la Antonov or Ilyushin (pretty much like the U.S. MOAB, rolls out of a C-130), but the footage inexplicably cuts to a Tu-160, as if to suggest that it was adapted to the bomb bay there. No, nothing actually supports that.

    Tu-160's have been exclusively fitted with revolving ALCM compartments for ages, like the Tu-95s. These planes haven't dropped a bomb for 20+ years. The Tu-22M still has regular bomb bays that can take anything from FAB-100 to FAB-9000, but again, nothing has ever indicated that the "FOAB" contraption was ever properly weaponized to be compatible.

    I am open to surprises though. Hit me.


    I don't think they have shown any actual bomb, just the explosion.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:25 am

    The FOABs is likely being kept secret so that it is useful.

    The rotary launchers for cruise missiles on the Tu-160 can be removed if needed leaving plenty of space for other items most likely including at least one FOAB in each weapon bay.

    The Bear is not a bomber and AFAIK the Tu-160 isn't a bomber any more either... both carry standoff missiles of various types.

    The Backfire is the theatre bomber and the PAK DA is to replace both the Backfire and the Bear suggesting it will be the bomber moving forward.

    Remember how effective shock an awe was for the Americans?

    No. I don't either.

    It was just a chance for them to show off and really meant nothing at all.

    If they find an active bio weapons lab that they need to take out quickly then an FOAB might be useful but with most targets conventional bombs with glide kits will do just fine.

    I seem to remember the Tu-16 needing to be used in Afghanistan for FAB-9000 testing because the external weapon hard points on the Tu-22M are limited to FAB-5000s and the FAB-9000 is too fat to fit inside the Tu-22M3. The Tu-16s weapon bay being huge to allow early model nuclear weapons to be carried which were enormous.

    Such big bombs are really only useful against hardened targets... area targets are more effectively defeated with a huge number of smaller bombs.

    FOAB is a thermobaric bomb optimised to defeat areas with potential bio or chemical contamination.

    It is a very specialised weapon that is not as much use as some people seem to imagine.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:54 am

    Nothing to see here, just one more volunteer M1 driver ...

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/101811

    Laughing

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:09 am

    A very hard life beckons for this evil bastard. Good that he didn't meet a quick end with a bullet or shell.

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    Post  Arrow Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:37 am

    https://t.me/milinfolive/109218

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    Post  Hole Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:36 pm

    Does anyone have information on the M1 Abrams?
    That is the designation of an obese american tank. Wink

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:40 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Does anyone have information on the M1 Abrams?
    That is the designation of an obese american tank. Wink


    I meant, if they were seen in Ukraine, since until a few weeks ago, they said that they had arrived there to fight.
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    Post  Regular Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:49 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:

    In the south, advancing by Optyne is a diversionary advance, which only forces Ukrainians to have to man those sections of the front
    Ukrainians in the South are getting railed, if it will give in, it won't just diversionary advance.

    The main push, where storm Z and Wagner will enter, is south west of the terrikon
    Wagner? Am I missing their return? ORBAT is posted by franco. Terrikon was taken mostly by 110 and finally by 114th.
    https://www.russiadefence.net/t8990-russian-orbat-in-the-so

    They need Stepove, that's why they lost so many tanks to take it

    Pretty much


    Once they get in, they can cutoff MSR by fire

    It will be a tough battle, which will cost thousands of lives to take it

    Yes, it can take months.

    But this is the cost of such an inept leadership, with such an approach to the war

    You fight with what you have, for me, leadership doesn't look like a main culprit. Russia can't fight any other way. Same as Ukraine couldn't fight other way in their counter-offensive.

    They're literally sandbox testing urban assault, from Mariupol, Bakhmut, Lisichansk, Severodonetsk, Soledar to Avdeyevka

    There are a couple of differences now that make it a bit different and could play important role.

    This is how fucked up it is, the men who were in Bakhmut, suffered tremendously from the scale of battle

    War is hell, nothing works, no plans are perfect, and people die in thousands and in stupid ways. Absolute chaos. Harden your heart for now.


    And what will it be here? Any different?

    All things considered, hopefully.

    No, instead of protecting ours, and leveling the nazis like Israelis are doing
    Will probably be done later. Unlike in Gaza, there are few civilians there.


    Ours will storm a fortefied coke plant, with nothing but a pat on the back, and congratulatory postings

    Bombing it to the ground is an option too, we will see.

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:
    Hole wrote:
    Does anyone have information on the M1 Abrams?
    That is the designation of an obese american tank. Wink


    I meant, if they were seen in Ukraine, since until a few weeks ago, they said that they had arrived there to fight.

    What's there to know? We don't know who will be getting them, this depends were we see them fight.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:50 pm

    Airbornewolf wrote:
    So, you have any experience in the army?. in combat roles or you just like to talk fancy around here Private Hudson? Wink.

    so  do you need one ro what ?! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil






    Somehow I cannot find this post i believe was on anna news yesterday - 2 ukro soldiers were shooting tik tok vid with destroyed tech behind...they were both taken down by Russian snipers.

    conclusion:  social media an war dont mix together irl


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    Post  kvs Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:57 pm

    The fascination with the FOAB is excessive. A fuel-air mixture explosive is not going to be compact for a high explosive yield like a nuke.
    It is a cistern of liquid fuel that is designed to aerosolize before ignition. There is not a vast range of liquid density for any chemical
    fuel that can be devised. You are never going to have some magical fuel that has 10 times less volume with the same yield.

    Of course, thermobaric devices are useful, but they are not nuke replacements.

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    Post  kvs Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:59 pm

    Social media is clearly effective for spreading propaganda. So in this sense it mixes with war quite well. But in terms of objective
    information, social media is a blend of shit and sugar.

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    Post  Hole Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:51 pm

    I meant, if they were seen in Ukraine, since until a few weeks ago, they said that they had arrived there to fight.
    I know. Very Happy
    Well, according even to western publications the M1 will arrive too late and will change nothing.
    Which means propably that the Biden regime gave orders only to use the tank well behind the frontlines.

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    One more L2 joined barbeque

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    Comment in the background is just great Laughing

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    Post  Arrow Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:24 pm


    Warning: drastic
    https://vk.com/video-123538639_456303529


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    Post  JohninMK Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:37 pm

    Hole wrote:
    I meant, if they were seen in Ukraine, since until a few weeks ago, they said that they had arrived there to fight.
    I know. Very Happy
    Well, according even to western publications the M1 will arrive too late and will change nothing.
    Which means propably that the Biden regime gave orders only to use the tank well behind the frontlines.
    Pretty certain.
    They saw what happened to the UK Challengers, which confirmed their concerns about the PR effect of the M1 being on the front.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:08 pm

    What a terrible hill to have to fight your way up.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:13 pm

    JohninMK wrote:What a terrible hill to have to fight your way up

    Not only, the video footage reveals that Ukrainians were burrowing into small tunnels

    In the vid you can see many of them

    https://t.me/intelslava/52630

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