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    Post  ALAMO Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:46 pm

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    Kilo looks way worse than Ropucha. It's dead meat.

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    Post  Scorpius Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:42 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    Kilo looks way worse than Ropucha. It's dead meat.
    I do not see any damage to the main structures - ruptures of the hull coating do not make the ship unsuitable for further service. In fact, statements have already been made that both the ship and the submarine will be restored after repairs.

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:46 pm


    Good thing is that Russian Navy's reputation and credibility is already in the shitter so this won't have any meaningful effect on overall morale

    Order a new one and tell the Navy to STFU as it gets built


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    Post  Scorpius Mon Sep 18, 2023 3:53 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Good thing is that Russian Navy's reputation and credibility is already in the shitter so this won't have any meaningful effect on overall morale
    Order a new one and tell the Navy to STFU as it gets built

    My God, I'm starting to understand why Yugoslavia was fucked in 1999. If your military were all such crying pussies, offended little girls like you on this forum, then it becomes completely clear to me why everything was exactly the way it was. Just keep yourself in hand while the men deal with the problem.

    Let me just remind you that there is a deep gap between reasonable constructive criticism and non-stop defeatist whining. Do you want to suck a USA dick? You can go and do it right now, it's your right. But do not agitate someone else, this is your personal choice, and it should not concern someone else.

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    Post  Department Of Defense Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:07 pm

    GarryB wrote: Yay... their next game changer... perhaps it will require a no fly zone to be imposed over all Ukrainian airspace...

    Will be a good test for Russian air defence systems.
    Definitely! The improvements in navigation for the Taurus is relevant regardless of whether the missile flies over land or sea. Also the Taurus's fuse is much better suited to destroy buildings and bridges.
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    Post  ALAMO Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:18 pm

    Scorpius wrote:
    I do not see any damage to the main structures - ruptures of the hull coating do not make the ship unsuitable for further service. In fact, statements have already been made that both the ship and the submarine will be restored after repairs.

    This thing is toasted, with clear and visible signs of the internal explosion of a big warhead that tore it apart inside. The blast wave was so powerful that it blew away the front emergency hatch.
    Try to be serious.

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    Post  owais.usmani Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:29 pm

    SolidarityWithRussia wrote:Do we have credible sources that the US is about to send mini-nukes to Ukraine? I hope it is just a sensational story and not reality.



    The video is citing former CIA man Ray McGovern, who has been very critical about the US involvement in Ukraine.

    God I hope its true and they proceed with their plan.

    Those damn Satans in Siberia have been sitting idle in their silos doing nothing for decades, they need to have their launch codes activated like already! angry
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    Post  mnztr Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:52 pm

    at least they are not being taken out by oil tankers like the USN lol.



    Scorpius wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Good thing is that Russian Navy's reputation and credibility is already in the shitter so this won't have any meaningful effect on overall morale
    Order a new one and tell the Navy to STFU as it gets built

    My God, I'm starting to understand why Yugoslavia was fucked in 1999. If your military were all such crying pussies, offended little girls like you on this forum, then it becomes completely clear to me why everything was exactly the way it was. Just keep yourself in hand while the men deal with the problem.

    Let me just remind you that there is a deep gap between reasonable constructive criticism and non-stop defeatist whining. Do you want to suck a USA dick? You can go and do it right now, it's your right. But do not agitate someone else, this is your personal choice, and it should not concern someone else.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Sep 18, 2023 5:18 pm

    Scorpius wrote:
    ALAMO wrote:
    Kilo looks way worse than Ropucha. It's dead meat.
    I do not see any damage to the main structures - ruptures of the hull coating do not make the ship unsuitable for further service. In fact, statements have already been made that both the ship and the submarine will be restored after repairs.
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #48 - Page 37 Hes-ok-folks-simpsons

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    Post  Hole Mon Sep 18, 2023 5:45 pm

    And says that Ukrainians are not totally spent yet.
    Making such statements he should wear a black uniform with skull symbols.

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    Post  Mir Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:03 pm

    What he is actually saying is that they are fooked, but not totally fooked. So they still can get fooked a bit more - till they're totally fooked. Laughing

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:14 pm

    The good news is that most of the European countries are busy showing middle finger to the demands of catching & repatriating poor Ukro passported cannon fodder.
    And if you ask me, this is another example of how the things differ from the official shitstream narrative.
    Nobody will send the Ukrainians, because most of them are hard-working for local economies.
    Without them, the whole of the construction business is gone.
    Lots of them work as TIR drivers, a job that is in extremely high demand across EU. Salaries are sky high.
    Aside from the importance of Ukrainian labor, there is one more issue : nobody here will spend assets to catch them.
    Last but not least, if only this rumor would float for real, that they are being catched up like dogs form the streets - they would run towards Russian/Belarussian borders like there is no tomorrow.
    And as both are open and they still don't need visas if I remember correctly - the end effect would have been some seven digits number of new citizens for both RU/BEL Laughing Laughing Laughing
    So whatever the Brussels junta will tell you, local govts give a round shit about that.

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    Post  Belisarius Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:19 pm

    Regular wrote:
    There is absolutely no need to see identification marks. It’s geolocated in Russian control zone, far behind LOC.

    Geolocation showing where an event occurs without a date showing WHEN it occurred doesn't prove anything, how do you know the video isn't old? Recorded when that area was controlled by Ukraine at the beginning of the war?

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    Post  Pincus Shain Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:30 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:

    God I hope its true and they proceed with their plan.

    Those damn Satans in Siberia have been sitting idle in their silos doing nothing for decades, they need to have their launch codes activated like already!  

    This is stupidity.

    Firstly if you hope Ukraine gets tactical nukes, it means you are hoping they wipe out vast amounts of Russian soldiers or even civilians.
    Secondly, the use of SS-18 means full-out nuclear war and the death of hundreds of millions if not billions. Anyone who wants such an escalation to this level needs to be sedated, put in a padded cell, and fed oatmeal for the rest of their lives. In short, they are sick.

    Logical people who support Russia want neither of these things to happen. Thankfully the world at large is also not this stupid and it is about as likely to happen as Atlantis rising from the seas.....

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:41 pm

    Take a closer look at this numbers.

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    Record low casualties.

    What's more, using their own "calculation methodology" that would leave about ... 30k of Russian KIA.
    The number I personally consider too low, yet ...

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    Post  thegopnik Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:19 pm

    As much as the west is laughing that the kilo sub got whacked, a bigger fail is an F-35 landing in Cuba today so I expect maybe some data will be exchanged about the aircraft and maybe they will use some random radar equipment to see what the actual RCS is and share that with Russia and china

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:29 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    Record low casualties.

    What's more, using their own "calculation methodology" that would leave about ... 30k of Russian KIA.
    The number I personally consider too low, yet ...

    That number doesn't include DNR/LNR dead which is upwards of 10k, maybe 15k

    Although I am noticing that they're including Crimean KIA now though. Huh, what do you know. They werent before BTW. Guess the impulse to get those russkie killed figures up won out in the end

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    Post  kvs Mon Sep 18, 2023 7:49 pm

    Why all the concern about the damaged sub? Whether it is a loss or not is not something to fret over. A new one will be built. Russia
    was pumping out project 636.3 subs for world customers over the last 20 years. The production does not have to be restarted from
    scratch. I smell "rotting Soviet legacy" thinking BS in the "concern".

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    Post  franco Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:36 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    ALAMO wrote:
    Record low casualties.

    What's more, using their own "calculation methodology" that would leave about ... 30k of Russian KIA.
    The number I personally consider too low, yet ...

    That number doesn't include DNR/LNR dead which is upwards of 10k, maybe 15k

    Although I am noticing that they're including Crimean KIA now though. Huh, what do you know. They werent before BTW. Guess the impulse to get those russkie killed figures up won out in the end

    They might be the N/A and foreign. Know the PR's quit releasing any numbers after being incorporated into the MoD in January.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:29 pm

    Out of drone range Laughing Use your assets to your advantage, huge distances and cheap fuel.

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    Post  TMA1 Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:38 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/583114-kiev-west-combat-war-fatigue/

    Kiev demands West take measures to combat ‘war fatigue’

    The head of the National Security and Defense Council, Aleksey Danilov, accused “reputable and influential” Western media outlets of publishing materials suggesting Ukraine’s much-hyped summer counteroffensive is failing, Kiev’s troops are unable to take back territory from Russia, and Moscow’s resources are “limitless.” These sentiments slow down the Western military assistance to Kiev and stand in the way of Ukraine’s “peace formula,” Danilov added.

    His words came more than three months into the Ukrainian counteroffensive, which has so far failed to bring about any meaningful changes to the front lines but has seen Kiev’s troops suffer heavy losses in attempts to penetrate Russian defenses.

    Damn him and the satanic ukrainian leaders and the literal satanic soldiers like misanthropic division. Brazen begging shameless harlots. They can mock other nations but this cavalier demanding horseshit of Americans better stop and right now. Nobody gives demands to American citizens like this. A better, greater generation before us would never of imagined these kinds of words coming from a foreign diplomat. And treacherous neocons allow this and kill list tier hullshit of American citizens! And American Intel agencies are backing that websitr!

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:52 pm

    Two sides of the story.

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    Russia used an unprecedented amount of aircraft for a night attack on Ukraine - Commander of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Yuriy Ignat

    "Atypically, several dozen aircraft were in the airspace at night." These include drones and tactical aircraft that attacked Ukraine with cruise missiles and drone kamikazes.
    Aviation activity was high," he said.
    And he added that it was not possible to shoot down all kamikaze drones, because "there are not always means of destruction and the enemy tries to bypass them; the enemy chooses different directions. And attacks from different directions on different routes.”


    This was announced today by the Russian Ministry of Defense.

    Cruise missiles and kamikaze drones hit storage facilities for British Storm Shadow missiles, depleted uranium munitions and also a radio intelligence and training center for sabotage groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    This was announced today by the Russian Ministry of Defense.
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    Post  kvs Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:03 pm

    TMA1 wrote:

    Damn him and the satanic ukrainian leaders and the literal satanic soldiers like misanthropic division. Brazen begging shameless harlots. They can mock other nations but this cavalier demanding horseshit of Americans better stop and right now. Nobody gives demands to American citizens like this. A better, greater generation before us would never of imagined these kinds of words coming from a foreign diplomat. And treacherous neocons allow this and kill list tier hullshit of American citizens! And American Intel agencies are backing that websitr!

    You reaction is fully valid, but the US is run by maggots selling Americans down the river.  So some two bit quisling regime nobody can "demand".   The Biden regime needs to go but it
    is trying to grab perpetual power.   Americans will have to hit the streets to prevent the next election from being stolen.   There will be plandemic lockdowns to enable the mail in
    ballot stuffing at 4 am.

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    Post  Broski Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:07 pm

    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:@Sprinter99800
    more and more videos are appearing online showing Geran-2 kamikaze drones hitting their targets
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    Post  Hole Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:11 pm

    The base is located 2.4 thousand km from the border with Ukraine, it takes three and a half hours to fly to the launch…
    In reality the missile carriers could launch their cruise missiles right after take off and still hit any location inside Banderastan.

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