Untouched because they were created a few weeks ago from fresh "volunteers" caught on the streets of Bandera cities.six absolutely untouched brigades
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GarryB wrote:White colonials in their element... Leopard 1s put together from parts and sold for the price of a brand new Leopard 2... the perfect scam.
Who cares if it wont last very long in combat... neither will Leopard 2 tanks so who cares.
It might actually be better because those Leo 1s used 105mm guns didn't they, so they probably have a whole lot of 105mm tank gun ammo in stores they can get rid of for top dollar... oops sorry... help their Ukrainian nazi friends fight for democracy and freedom and make a good profit and earn credits to have their old stocks of worn out weapons and ammo replaced with brand new expensive ammo and weapons... anyone with shares in the western MIC will be rubbing their hands with glee.
Almost the perfect scam. Wait 6 months, they will buy stones from Gaza to throw at Russian T-90s and sell them as NLAWs. We can joke but it honestly wouldn't surprise me. Still this online world is 90% delluded. The Ukraine is doing a good job on social media of fooling the world into thinking they have Russia in full retreat and that Putin will soon seek exile in UAE. Complete idiots. They lost 1/5 of the country, three armies, have the world helping them, are in debt for the next 10000 years and still think they are winning after they cannot do anything. The only thing they know how to do is post pictures of kittens and puppies and dancing online saying victory is coming.... And the stupid social media clowns think that is how one wins a war.
Lets give an example:
Look its a kitten. It means Taiwan will beat China in three days......
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flamming_python wrote:If they use the Leo 1 as a fire support vehicle attached to infantry, or in ambush then it can be useful. If they try to use it for any sort of offensive or advance then it's a deathtrap.
Not much different to the T-55. There is a use for it, if you realize which one.
There is quite a difference.
T-55 is much better armored rather than L1.
With 100 mm gun and ammo that was produced in the 80s, it is a quite potent support artillery that is much immune to counterbattery fire.
It has range of about 14km, so not much worse than 2S1.
I am not sure if there are any HE ammunition typed for L7 gun. Israelis produced one, but it was designed for a direct fire. And the stock of it won't be impressive either
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Ka-52 with thermals will make sure leo1 can't stay there in ambush mode. It will be sptted before it can fire unless you fire in the air like an artillery piece but they don't have the FCS for that. Even then lancet will easily smash them into pieces.
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Isos wrote:The stocks of 105mm for leo 1 are 30+ yers old. Not something you want to use from a rusty gun that's been kept 30+ years in storage too.
Ka-52 with thermals will make sure leo1 can't stay there in ambush mode. It will be sptted before it can fire unless you fire in the air like an artillery piece but they don't have the FCS for that. Even then lancet will easily smash them into pieces.
Emplaced in cities at key points they won't be in the Ka-52s habitat. And the short distances will mean that the inferior 105mm gun will matter rather less.
Similarly as an assault gun for infantry fighting in cities it can also be useful.
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Isos wrote:Leo 2 can't do shit so they will try with its ancestor the leo 1. Next Panther 2 and Tiger 2 ? When will they stop ? When they reach Panther 1 and Tiger 1 ?
funny you mention Panther as that is to be Germany's new main Battle tank to replace the Leopard 2A7, the Panther KF51
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higurashihougi wrote:.....
Belgian arms dealer Freddy Versluys announced the sale of the tanks on Tuesday, telling multiple media outlets that an unnamed European state had purchased them for an undisclosed price.
Versluys bought the tanks for €37,000 each when they were being decommissioned by the Belgian government in 2014. ....
People probably laughed when he bought them but now he is selling them to some idiots most likely with an extra zero on the price tag
I'm genuinely happy for Freddy, he deserved this pile of dough, may he spend it in good health
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PapaDragon wrote:higurashihougi wrote:.....
Belgian arms dealer Freddy Versluys announced the sale of the tanks on Tuesday, telling multiple media outlets that an unnamed European state had purchased them for an undisclosed price.
Versluys bought the tanks for €37,000 each when they were being decommissioned by the Belgian government in 2014. ....
People probably laughed when he bought them but now he is selling them to some idiots most likely with an extra zero on the price tag
I'm genuinely happy for Freddy, he deserved this pile of dough, may he spend it in good health
Thats good old Capitalism are work, buy for cheap sell for profit
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Latest model Leopard 2s were fetching 15 million euros a pop before USN frogmen blew up the Nord Stream pipelines. Now they only cost twice.Godric wrote:
funny you mention Panther as that is to be Germany's new main Battle tank to replace the Leopard 2A7, the Panther KF51
Not even a single Russian shell fired at the Germans and the Russians destroyed half of Germany's future armored corps.
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Ukrainian drone raid on Crimea
Early in the morning, after a comprehensive reconnaissance by the US Air Force and NATO Air Force, Ukrainian formations again attacked the Crimean peninsula with Mugin-5 PRO drones launched from the Odessa region.
As a result of the joint work of units of the 31st air defense division and the electronic warfare calculations of the Russian Armed Forces Armed Forces, 12 targets were shot down: ten were suppressed by electronic warfare at Cape Tarkhankut and Evpatoria, one was shot down by the Tor air defense system over Khersones, and the other on the way to the Novofedorovsky airfield over Sakami by the Pantsir air defense missile system.
Unlike previous attacks, the AFU slightly changed tactics: this time the UAVs were launched in small groups from several points, starting from the Shkolny airfield and ending with the jump base in Vilkovo.
The attack was again preceded by active reconnaissance in the Black Sea area. In the southwest and south of Crimea, the French Atlantique 2 base patrol aircraft, as well as three US Air Force MQ-9A Reaper drones, operated.
Despite the repulsed raid, the attacks are highly likely to continue. According to some reports, a large batch of drones has been delivered to the Odessa region, which they plan to use in combination with unmanned boats.
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The Russians have created a fist for a breakthrough in the Kupyansk direction, - Syrsky, commander of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, reports.
"The goal of the enemy is to break through the defenses of our troops and go to Kupyansk. The fighting is now very intense. Separate positions changed hands several times these days," he said.
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They just can´t stop lying.Separate positions changed hands several times these days
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Reaching Kupyansk-Lyman will mean that Seversk is under a risk of full encirclement
From there working on Slavyansk agglomeration will be easier than trying to approach it from the front
Slavyansk should be approached from the sides and the rear
Placing all of Donbass in a "fire-bag"
The Ukrainian army has to stand and fight, there's nowhere to run to once Russia closes Slavyansk
Poltava is too far to make it exposed to aviation
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The offensive of the RF Armed Forces on Kupyansk continues. The liberation of the city will be swift, since the Armed Forces of Ukraine have no reserves for the second Bakhmut.
The Russian Armed Forces entered Sinkovka - the last frontier before Kupyansk
On August 9, Russian assault units significantly improved the tactical situation in the area of \u200b\u200bthe settlements of Sinkovka, Olshany and Novoselovskoye in the Kupyansky district, said a military expert, retired LPR Lieutenant Colonel Andrei Marochko.
According to him, in the Kupyansk direction, Russian forces advanced ten kilometers along the line of contact and three kilometers deep into the Ukrainian defenses.
The main result of the past day: the RF Armed Forces entered Sinkovu - the last settlement before Kupyansk from the northwest. The Telegram channel "Whisper of the Front" says that Russian fighters entered the village from three directions, the 101st Territorial Defense Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is withdrawing, and 20 houses have already been occupied.
Ukrainian sources confirm the attack on Kupyansk south of Liman Pervy and southwest of Olshany "in three directions." From Sinkovka to Kupyansk, Russian motorized riflemen have to go six to eight kilometers.
Zelensky is nervous: there are no reserves
The situation threatens to break through the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, so Volodymyr Zelensky held a meeting "in a special format", after which the head of the ground forces Alexander Syrsky left for the headquarters of the group near Kupyansk, which was moved to the west. The Ukrainian telegram channel Military Analytiсs writes about this. He also reports that the area to the east of Kupyansk is currently held only by mobile mechanized brigades, the defence brigades have retreated:
"The Armed Forces of Ukraine are now conducting rearguard battles there, because there are not enough infantry units left here for both the offensive and the defense."
Both Russian and Ukrainian sources report that Russian Aerospace Forces have attacked with KAB-500 and KAB-250 gliding bombs in Kupyansk and the Kupyansky district. This is the harbinger of a major breakthrough.
"Very noisy nights" in Kupyansk, evacuation announced
The Telegram channel "Kupyansky district for its own" publishes messages about constant arrivals in the city and its environs:
- to the sugar factory area (on the right bank of the Oskol River),
- Kruglyakovki (left bank),
- between Petropavlovka and Podol (left bank).
Explosions were also "heard" in the area of the crossing, the junction station of the railway, a hit in the building of the city administration in Kupyansk was registered.
The last two nights were "very noisy," the author of the channel, a resident of Kupyan, points out.
The same channel publishes the appeal of the local administration for evacuation.
RF Armed Forces are close to the liberation of Kupyansk
From all that has been said, we can conclude that the RF Armed Forces are close to the liberation of Kupyansk - for the second time. The city is long-suffering, at first believing that Russia came for a long time, and then, after retreating last summer, subjected to Nazi punitive actions for this. Everyone remembers the widespread video of mass executions in the spirit of Babi Yar, published by the Ukrainian neo-Nazi Zhorin.
"It is necessary to avenge the Russians in Kupyansk, which is what the Russian fighters do. There will be no second Bakhmut, Zelensky has a lot of reserves. If they were, they would already be near Kupyansk."
A little more and Kharkov will be within the reach of artillery and air defense of the RF Armed Forces.
https://military.pravda.ru/1870841-kupiansk/
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Godric wrote:anyone got a link to the video of the Russian soldier slagging western weapons systems like the Leopard tanks
This one?
https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/Russian-vents-about-the-state-of-the-West-and-it's-arms.:a
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Airbornewolf wrote:This one?
https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/Russian-vents-about-the-state-of-the-West-and-it's-arms.:a
Yup
Truly an epic rant. I approve
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At least the main part of the war which is high intensity , mechanized, and use of missiles and air defense
The Donbass grouping of forces for the VSU, exceed 300,000 troops - this is the bulk of the Ukrainian army, making a last stand in Slavyansk-Kramatorsk
They are dug-in and launch small unit attacks on Bakhmut, but they cannot defend Oskol-kupyansk-lyman
They can only use these numbers in Donbass, because of the urban defenses they take advantage of there
If Russia can finalize Oskol Reservoir offensive and start approaching Slavyansk, the VSU will have to run away to the nearest city (Poltava) or stay and die jn Donbass
Running to Poltava is going to be bad idea because Russian drones, Helicopters, bombers, and missiles will destroy any large forces which attempt to escape, and they cannot trickle 300,000+ men quietly to Poltava without "waking up" the VKS
So standing and fighting here, will mean no meaningful Ukrainian forces remain to defend the left bank
There are isolated troops in Kharkov, Chernigov , Sumy, Poltava, but they are nothing like Donbass where the entire defense was interconnected
Syrsky has a very tough decision to make : when will he begin to retreat to the right bank? A breakthrough in kupyansk or any part of the front will be the end for his men, they will be surrounded at any point ,
And this is the main issue for Syrsky and Zelensky, losing Kupyansk will lead to domino effect in Seversk, Slavyansk, Kramatorsk
And he has no reserves, only teraborona and they flee whenever Russian troops advance on them
That's why the time for a limited offensive is now, the Ukrainian lines will break, and you can advance in all 3 sectors , Kupyansk, then Ugledar, then Zaporozhye, and Zelensky will try to shuttle his remaining brigades to plug holes in his defense
The Ukrainian army is never conducting a meaningful offensive again,
They are the wehrmacht after Kursk, and the Russians conduct a polkovodets rumyanstsev
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The MIC will extend and prolong the war for profit . The European political elite will extend and prolong the war to line their pockets . The Orcs will extend and prolong the war to stay in power and save their necks . The American and European population will extend and prolong the war , in their colonial mental masturbation . The Ukrainian population will extend and prolong the war , for lack of unity and political power .
The only way this war will end , is to make joining and fighting in the Orcs Army , a bad career choice . One where you are most likely killed in action . Or if captured , endure long term in POW camps in Siberia . The suggestion that Russia could end operations after the full liberation of the four regions , reciprocated by NATO stopping support for the Orcs offensives , and withdrawal of Orcs from Russian regions , unlikely to happen , for all the reasons stated . In this case no choice but for Russia to continue fighting further and further West .
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