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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:29 am

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    From channel Zergulio:

    Colonel General Valery Marchenkov about Sergei Surovikin:

    - This is a talented military leader. But what they write about Surovikin’s “defense line” and show these concrete “dragon teeth” is not a description of his idea. These "teeth" are not Surovikin's defense at all. He conducted a reconnaissance of the area and, anticipating the actions of the Ukrainians on the offensive, redistributed the personnel in such a way that now the counteroffensive is constantly failing. In some areas, the depth of the defense he created is up to 10 kilometers! He reduced the length of the front, revised the defense strategy itself.

    - In our country, classically, a battalion is considered a unit of the support group, and he relied on companies. There was such a move in the history of the Russian army. In 1880, Skobelev, in the battle of Geok-Tepe, made not a battalion, but a company a unit. And won. Then this system was abandoned, and Sergey used it again.

    Full article https://ura.news/articles/1036287227
    , there is generally a lot of interesting things. I did not know, for example, that it was Surovikin who was involved in the creation of the military police.

    #source:
    https://t.me/SergeyKolyasnikov/51133

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    Post  GarryB Wed Aug 09, 2023 12:59 pm


    Would have been nicer if they upgraded then to Black Eagle standards to evaluate the design in real battlefield conditions

    That is a fairly radical modification that would be quite expensive to impliment and cannot really be justified considering they already have the T-90AM and T-14.

    so I think crew protection is a must therefore Russian needs to invest more research and development in this area and keep their tanks, aircrafts, ships, etc more survivable for the personnel

    A focus on crew protection is why Russia has T-90AM and T-14 tanks.

    In that regard they are not worse than any other tank available anywhere and certainly better than a lot of them.

    Another reason could be the T-80BVM's autoloader carries more ammo than the T-72/T-90, with 28 rounds compared to 22 rounds. Perhaps the intention is to hit Ukrainian MBTs with more rounds.

    I don't think that would be enough of a reason, but if it was then the T-90AM has an extra 8 rounds between the engine and the turret autoloader and a further ten rounds separated and protected in the turret bustle, which means 40 rounds in the field if you want them without any in the crew compartment.

    The only thing that is good for the Ukrainian here is the 40-ton Leopard 1, in which case it is much easier to evacuate from the battlefield than the Leopard 2, starting from 57 tons.

    Leo 1s would be vulnerable to the autocannon on Russian BMPs from any angle... not a great tank and would have to be operated like a light wheeled French tank type.

    Hope the danger money is good but I suppose these men could be regarded as technical support mercenaries. Photos at link.

    Something worth targeting for sure...

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    Post  d_taddei2 Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:17 pm

    Not sure how to upload a downloaded video. However was sent a video of a convoy.

    Convoy of BM-21 MLRS of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation near the city of Kamyshin in the Volgograd region of the Russian Federation. Notice they have added cages on the roofs as a form of protection against drones.

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    Post  Godric Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:59 pm

    66% of German oppose sending Taurus to Ukraine, Scholz jaiket is on a shoogilie peg, as AFD are dead certs to win the election and watch a different germany emerge one opposed to American homogeny and control over Germany & the EU

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    Post  Arrow Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:01 pm

    German society has no say. Germany will send Taurus to Ukraine anyway.

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    Post  Godric Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:12 pm

    Arrow wrote:German society has no say. Germany will send Taurus to Ukraine anyway.

    Scholz is playing a dangerous game and his party knows it, they are deeply unpopular in Germany now due to there stance in Ukraine and the condition of there economy which is all tied up with Ukraine and it's anti Russian stance

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    Post  Arrow Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:27 pm

    Scholz is playing a dangerous game and his party knows it, they are deeply unpopular in Germany now due to there stance in Ukraine and the condition of there economy which is all tied up with Ukraine and it's anti Russian stance wrote:

    The German political elites are vassals of the US. So much for the topic. They will continue to send weapons to Ukraine.

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:34 pm

    Godric wrote:
    Arrow wrote:German society has no say. Germany will send Taurus to Ukraine anyway.

    Scholz is playing a dangerous game and his party knows it, they are deeply unpopular in Germany now due to there stance in Ukraine and the condition of there economy which is all tied up with Ukraine and it's anti Russian stance

    Even if the AfD gets into power, they'll just switch and become hardcore Ukro supporters the minute they get the seat clown

    I wouldn't pay attention to any of these clowns

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    Post  Backman Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:17 pm

    Epic rant by Scott Ritter 2:00 in

    https://www.youtube.com/live/3xFcbSFA6IY?feature=share

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:27 pm

    Backman wrote:Epic rant by Scott Ritter 2:00 in

    https://www.youtube.com/live/3xFcbSFA6IY?feature=share


    All these emotions and drama; they need to get a room. All of them.

    Americans man

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:44 pm

    I told you that a long time ago.
    They all fight the same wallet.
    Monetization is a king.

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    Post  Broski Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:10 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Godric wrote:
    Arrow wrote:German society has no say. Germany will send Taurus to Ukraine anyway.

    Scholz is playing a dangerous game and his party knows it, they are deeply unpopular in Germany now due to there stance in Ukraine and the condition of there economy which is all tied up with Ukraine and it's anti Russian stance

    Even if the AfD gets into power, they'll just switch and become hardcore Ukro supporters the minute they get the seat clown

    I wouldn't pay attention to any of these clowns
    Reminds me how the italian PM Meloni did an immediate 180 on basically every conservative issue including illegal immigration and sending weapons to the Ukraine, you could see it coming a mile away but people still fell for it anyway.

    It's probably the only reason they keep the charade of democracy alive in the West since it still 'works', per se. I find the Chinese model to be more honest (not better), they don't pretend to give the Chinese people a choice of leadership.

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    Post  Sprut-B Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:11 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:Not sure how to upload a downloaded video. However was sent a video of a convoy.

    Convoy of BM-21 MLRS of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation near the city of Kamyshin in the Volgograd region of the Russian Federation. Notice they have added cages on the roofs as a form of protection against drones.

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    This is the video 

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:53 pm

    Sprut-B wrote:
    This is the video 

    That is a minimum of 16 trucks or, put another way, a potential salvo of 640 rockets Shocked Shocked Shocked

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    Post  Hole Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:02 pm

    PM Meloni did an immediate 180
    Or were it 360°?  lol1 lol1 lol1

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:13 pm

    Good image

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    Post  d_taddei2 Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:47 pm

    The Russians entered Sinkovka from three sides .
    The withdrawal of the Armed Forces is noticeable . It's only 14km from kupiansk.

    Due to the complication of the operational situation on the part of the front around Kupjansk, the commander of the Land Division of the Ukrainian Army, Lieutenant General Aleksandar Sirski, arrived urgently in this area has he ordered the evacuation of the city?
    On this part of the front, the Russian army is carrying out offensive operations in two directions, north and south, where it is trying to break through to the riverbed of the Oskol River.  The situation north of Kupyansk is particularly difficult for the Ukrainian forces, where the Russian army is carrying out a combined offensive with the participation of a large number of drones, and the use of heavy artillery and tactical bomber aviation.

    Kuchervika is also on route to kupiansk and it has forests so that might slow them down a bit.

    Dvorichne area will likely be taken giving Russia access behind oskol river and down into northern kupiansk. So even if Ukraine blow the bridge access can still be had. Currently kupiansk is being bombarded by Russian air force.

    It's not looking good for Ukraine on this front.

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    Post  littlerabbit Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:48 am


    It looks like things are speeding up...or it's a wrong info, again. Wink


    https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1689382792440811521

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    Post  Kiko Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:21 am

    Russia is picking up the keys to the liberation of Kupyansk, by Andrey Rezchikov for VZGLYAD. 08.09.2023.

    Experts explained the advancement of the Russian Armed Forces in the Kupyansk direction.

    The Russian military are advancing in the Kupyansk direction. Now the liberation of Kupyansk - one of the key transport hubs - is acquiring more distinct prospects. What are the features of the advance of Russian troops and what prospects open up for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation if success develops in this direction?

    The liberation over the past few days of five settlements in the Kupyansk direction has become a "serious indicator" for the Russian military. This was stated by the head of the administration of the Kharkiv region Vitaly Ganchev. According to him, the movement of Russian forces "deep into enemy territory is quite active."

    At the beginning of the month, the assault detachments of the group of Russian troops "West" took up more advantageous positions in the Kupyansk direction near the settlements of Olshana, Pershotravnevoe (Pershotravneve) of the Kharkov region and Kuzemovka in the LPR. In general, in recent days, the advance of Russian troops in the Kupyansk direction has amounted to 11 km along the front and more than 3 km in the depth of the enemy’s defence.

    In addition, in the course of active defence, Russian troops repelled nine attacks and counterattacks by units of the 25th Airborne, 14th, 32nd, 67th Mechanized Brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Novoselovsky in the LPR and Sinkovka in the Kharkiv region.

    The village of Sinkovka is controlled by the Ukrainian army, but fighting is actively taking place in its vicinity. As retired LPR Lieutenant Colonel Andrei Marochko noted, another spontaneous burial “without identifying bodies” appeared in the Kupyansk direction. “The graves are fresh, made with the help of engineering equipment. Some embankments have Ukrainian symbols,”  Marochko said  in an interview with RIA Novosti.

    According to the latest data from the Ministry of Defense, on August 9, in the Kupyansk direction, the enemy’s losses amounted to 75 military personnel, two armored combat vehicles, three vehicles, a Krab self-propelled artillery mount, and a US-made AN / TPQ-50 counter-battery radar. In addition, the Ukrainian authorities allow the organization of the evacuation of the population from 53 settlements of the Kupyansky district, which are located near the line of contact.

    “Russian troops are advancing in the Krasnolimansk and Kupyansk directions. Moreover, the main traffic goes north of Kupyansk, in the area of ​​the Oskol River. There are heavy battles between the villages of Pervy Liman and Sinkovka, the latter is gradually taken in pincers. The zone of control around Novoselkovsky is also expanding, there are successes west of Pervomaisky,” military analyst Mikhail Onufrienko notes.

    “Kupyansk itself is an important logistics center, and the enemy does not want to lose it. In an attempt to stop our advance, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are sending reinforcements to this area. Some of the new arrivals are units that were intended for a counteroffensive in the Zaporozhye direction, ”the expert emphasized.

    “However, even with this in mind, the enemy forces were not enough. We have already liberated more territories than the Ukrainian Armed Forces occupied during their so-called counter-offensive,” Onufrienko added.

    “Initially, it seems to me, we had an idea to distract the enemy from the Zaporozhye and Artemovsky directions by actions on Kupyansky. But now a situation has arisen where we can expand this task, move forward and try to go directly to Kupyansk in order to blockade and, perhaps, liberate the city. And then there are opportunities to move in the direction of both Kharkiv and Izyum, followed by access to the north of Donbass, ”says military expert Yuri Knutov. He also noted that
    on the Oskol River "it is ten times easier to organize defence" than it was done before.

    "But the enemy still has six absolutely untouched brigades - these are strategic reserves. Only the 9th and 10th corps were launched," the interlocutor emphasized. The interlocutor drew attention to another indirect sign that the Russian Armed Forces have serious plans for the Kharkov region. According to him, the fact that the Kharkov State Administration continues to function actively, to help local residents and refugees, indicates the far-reaching plans of Moscow.

    “However, it is still premature to say that we launched a large-scale offensive towards Kharkov. We are talking about confident attempts to move forward, and the first task here is the liberation of Kupyansk - the most important transport and railway hub, from where the road opens both to Kharkov and to the north of Donbass,” concluded Knutov.

    https://vz.ru/society/2023/8/9/1225037.html

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    Post  franco Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:33 am

    Broski wrote:
    Reminds me how the italian PM Meloni did an immediate 180 on basically every conservative issue including illegal immigration and sending weapons to the Ukraine, you could see it coming a mile away but people still fell for it anyway.

    It's probably the only reason they keep the charade of democracy alive in the West since it still 'works', per se. I find the Chinese model to be more honest (not better), they don't pretend to give the Chinese people a choice of leadership.

    I felt she was a con as soon as I read she was an admirer of Hillary Clinton affraid

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    Post  higurashihougi Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:39 am

    Cool Cool Cool

    https://www.rt.com/news/581055-germany-buys-leopard-ukraine/

    Germany buys scrapped tanks for Ukraine

    German defense giant Rheinmetall has purchased 49 mothballed Leopard 1 battle tanks from a Belgian arms dealer for use in Ukraine, a spokesperson for the company told The Guardian on Wednesday. The vehicles are reportedly in such poor condition that many will be suitable only for spare parts.

    The spokesperson said that 30 of the tanks would be recommissioned and given to Kiev, with the rest presumably cannibalized for parts.

    Belgian arms dealer Freddy Versluys announced the sale of the tanks on Tuesday, telling multiple media outlets that an unnamed European state had purchased them for an undisclosed price.

    Versluys bought the tanks for €37,000 each when they were being decommissioned by the Belgian government in 2014. Speaking to The Guardian earlier this year, he said that the aging vehicles were in poor shape, and needed “new engines, shock absorbers, fire control system, radar stations… the list can be continued."

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:04 am

    higurashihougi wrote:Cool Cool Cool

    Germany buys scrapped tanks for Ukraine

    Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz

    Pathetic. Words can no longer adequately describe the complete and utter CONTEMPT that I feel for these useless NATOista faggots.

    Go Russia. russia

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    Post  Isos Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:35 am

    Leo 2 can't do shit so they will try with its ancestor the leo 1. Next Panther 2 and Tiger 2 ? When will they stop ? When they reach Panther 1 and Tiger 1 ?

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:58 am

    If they use the Leo 1 as a fire support vehicle attached to infantry, or in ambush then it can be useful. If they try to use it for any sort of offensive or advance then it's a deathtrap.

    Not much different to the T-55. There is a use for it, if you realize which one.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:07 am

    White colonials in their element... Leopard 1s put together from parts and sold for the price of a brand new Leopard 2... the perfect scam.

    Who cares if it wont last very long in combat... neither will Leopard 2 tanks so who cares.

    It might actually be better because those Leo 1s used 105mm guns didn't they, so they probably have a whole lot of 105mm tank gun ammo in stores they can get rid of for top dollar... oops sorry... help their Ukrainian nazi friends fight for democracy and freedom and make a good profit and earn credits to have their old stocks of worn out weapons and ammo replaced with brand new expensive ammo and weapons... anyone with shares in the western MIC will be rubbing their hands with glee.

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