Russian special military operation in Ukraine #43

I was thinking the same. No way that engine remains there after such huge explosion.

kvs wrote:Another stupid fake.   Regular bomb crater with some nonsense debris staged in it.    It is physically impossible for such an intact amount of a missile to remain.
That is why the soil is removed to produce a crater.    If it was a high velocity impact from an intact missile it would not produce such a large crater and it
would not be symmetric.

The Ukr mova overlay is touting this as some big success of the Ukr air defense systems.

In Russian TG channels they say it was FAB500. Is this possible such a deep crater for 500kg bomb?

This was likely a mini bunker with some ammo. For such thing to happen you need an underground explosion.

The fab bombs would explode on the surface, unless thry use penetrating bombs.

Another crossing of the Oskil river.

PapaDragon wrote:
More than 40% of Ukrainians were Russians until Russian Military went in and got lynched and castrated

There are no Russians in Baltics

34% of Latvian pop.
4.8% of Lithuania
24% of Estonia.

kvs wrote:Another stupid fake.   Regular bomb crater with some nonsense debris staged in it.    It is physically impossible for such an intact amount of a missile to remain.
That is why the soil is removed to produce a crater.    If it was a high velocity impact from an intact missile it would not produce such a large crater and it
would not be symmetric.

The Ukr mova overlay is touting this as some big success of the Ukr air defense systems.

I don't think thats a fake. The parts left are the rocket engine, which are built incredibly strong, cos they have to be. The pressures and temps in a rocket engine are massive. When the crater is that size, who knows what was there.

To compare Russians in Riga or Tallin with Ukrainians comes from those who don't understand Russian identity

The Russians in the baltics are not beholden to a pseudo identity like Ukrainians

They are real Russians who sport St. George ribbons and Z symbols, who lay roses and wreaths at soviet memorials,  who protest and are jailed for speaking Russian

You cannot compare those to Ukrainians, they are more like any Russian living in St. Petersburg or even Donbass people

If they have no choice but to be destroyed in Riga, the Leningrad Military District would help them organize into an army corps, and you would have a Latvian People Republic overnight

Same , but to a lesser degree for the Russians in Tallin

These are not pseudo Russians who feel Estonian or Latvian, it is in no way comparable to Ukrainians

The Estonian or Latvian identity is way too alien to ever integrate the Russian populace

Baltic racism works to Russian advantage, those people could be armed and would resist ethnic cleansing just like Donbass did

The Baltics have already chosen their fate, at some point or another - when Washington ignites the Polish/Baltic front, the fate of the baltics will be worse than Ukrainians

Because the towns and villages in the baltics will be ruinous heaps from the kalibration that will happen there, and the people will have to leave to Lithuania and to Poland

As for Fins, an army corps is appearing on the border there, and greater Karelia can go to the Norwegian border

All these states asked for it,

It was better to make peace with Russia, now their worse nightmares will come true, a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts

There weren't 40% Russians in Ukraine at any point in time. The Russian speakers in Ukraine still identify as Russian speaking Ukrainians, not Russians.

So Shebekino in the Belgorod region was deserted and now Ukraine has been shelling it for over a week. Just shelling it to spoil it and for propaganda.

Baltic Russians never had the opportunity to integrate into Baltic identity

It's not at all like Ukraine, Kiril from Weapons and History was arrested for his views in Riga

So was the guy with the flag draped over him and many others interrogated and imprisoned for supporting Z

And the discrimination there is worse than Ukraine, because in Ukraine you can blend in , but not in Baltics - they know who is "Yestonian" , Russians who cannot speak Estonian

That whole area will be a problem very soon, and that's why 2 army corps are forming there

mnztr wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
More than 40% of Ukrainians were Russians until Russian Military went in and got lynched and castrated

There are no Russians in Baltics

34% of Latvian pop.
4.8% of Lithuania
24% of Estonia.

AKA percentage of population certain to take up arms against Russia judging from experience in Ukraine

I am biased, but it’s still so much easier for Russians to have normal life in Baltics than in Ukraine.
Baltic governments might be idiotic and used as proxies to poke at bigger countries, but domesticslly I didn’t hear even remote shit that Ukraine spews daily. I don’t think this would fly, only among nazis that are also total minority (nazis tend to fade if governments don’t sponsor them) I just hope this status quo will state the same as it didn’t take for Ukrainisation to happen.

Military it’s silly to even talk about us. We kinda gave all equipment and ammo to Ukraine, even M14 (!!!)!rifles for reserve are… gone. Sad state of afairs.

Papadragon wrote:

mnztr wrote:
34% of Latvian pop.
4.8% of Lithuania
24% of Estonia.

AKA percentage of population certain to take up arms against Russia judging from experience in Ukraine

it all depends on what the Baltic chihuahuas will do. If they just continue to bark then nothing will happen. If they (maybe with the support or participation of Poland) will actively participate in attacks to Russian forces in country 404 or even worse to Russian territory, including Kaliningrad, then there will be consequences.

And I doubt that the ethnic russians living there will want to fight against Russia and in favour of the population that oppresses them. And even if they do that, well too bad for them, they lost the last chances to be free.

Russia can easily convert those statelets in no man's land (except maybe Narva and a bit of land east of Kaliningrad). Then the remaining population (including eventual anti- russian ethnic russians) can enjoy living as  a refugee in Poland together with the Galicians.

It would be interesting to see also what would happen to Poland if they would have to accept a few millions of Baltic refugees (the 3 statelets together amount to about 6millions people, with almost half of them in Lithuania)+ even more Ukrainians

Backman wrote:So Shebekino in the Belgorod region was deserted and now Ukraine has been shelling it for over a week. Just shelling it to spoil it and for propaganda.

I really don't get why its very long to deploy a counter battery team and a couple of attack helos and Tornado to systematically take them out. Any artillery team and gun that is taken out will pay dividends until the end of the smo.

Destroyed or abandoned vehicles, Zaporoshye

GEROMAN -- time will tell - --
@GeromanAT
Slaviangrad about the failed Ukrainian attack today:
Additional information on the situation on the front.

The enemy's reports of a frontal breakthrough and retreat of the Russian Armed Forces on the northern flank of the Zaporozhye Front are a throw-in and do not correspond to reality.
Similarly, the reports about a breakthrough in the Ugledar direction are also rubbish.

During today's attempted breakthrough in Zaporozhye and Donetsk regions, the enemy suffered heavy losses in manpower and equipment, and failed to build on the minor tactical successes achieved at the outset of the offensive.

Confirmed total losses of the enemy in these areas: more than 10 tanks, more than 20 MBMs (Kozak, Humvee, MaxPro), at least 200 personnel.
At the moment, few enemy infantry remain in the grey zone, deprived of armoured support and unable to take any serious action.

All in all, today's adventure has cost the enemy much more than he had anticipated: the calculations of surprise did not materialize, the formations designed for "maneuver warfare" got bogged down and suffered expectedly high losses.
Nevertheless, this was not the main blow, and the enemy would certainly try to repeat the breakthrough attempt, in the very near future.
8:15 PM · Jun 4, 2023

GEROMAN -- time will tell - --
@GeromanAT
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Lots of shelling - fighting was reported in the red marked area - AFU withdrew with heavy losses - no map changes.

The amount of resistance in Bolgorod border region , should be fine tuned , so as not be so effective as to allow the Orcs to think that these diversionary incursions are totally pointless and then go concentrate their forces elsewhere . Nor should it be so light , so as to let the Orcs , wander around like kids in an empty amusement park at night ! It should be worked out , so that they think they are winning , and commit more and significant forces , especially from critical regions in the South , so as to make a breakthrough easier . They are caught between a Rock and a hard place , they have no choice but to loose ground and run , and this even weakens their main defence lines further . Let's help them along their inevitable Road to misery , on the Horns of a dilemma . They will loose critical ground either way , their only choice is how they will loose !

Report of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of the special military operation (06/04/2023)

Tonight, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation launched a group strike with long-range high-precision air-launched weapons against enemy targets at military airfields.

The target of the strike has been reached . Command posts, radar posts, Ukrainian aviation equipment, as well as storage facilities with weapons and ammunition were hit .

In the Kupyansk direction , air strikes and artillery fire from the "Western" group of troops defeated the enemy's manpower and equipment in the areas of the settlements of Novomlynsk, Sinkovka, Olshana and Timkovka of the Kharkov region.

In addition, in the areas of the settlements of Berestovoe in the Kharkiv region, Rozovka, Novoselovskoe in the Luhansk People's Republic and Liman in the Donetsk People's Republic, the activities of four Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance groups were stopped.

Up to 70 Ukrainian military personnel, three cars, two pickup trucks, as well as a D-20 howitzer.

In the Krasno-Limansky direction , operational-tactical and army aviation, artillery of the group of troops "Center" defeated enemy units in the areas of the settlements of Yampolovka, Torskoye of the Donetsk People's Republic, Makeevka, Ploschanka, Nevskoye and Chervonaya Dibrova of the Lugansk People's Republic, as well as Serebryansky forestry .

A Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance group was destroyed in the area of the village of Grigorovka in the Donetsk People's Republic.

During the day, up to 65 Ukrainian military personnel, two armored fighting vehicles, three pickup trucks, D-20 and D-30 howitzers, and also two Gvozdika self-propelled artillery mounts.

In addition, an ammunition depot of the 63rd mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was destroyed near the village of Serebryanka in the Donetsk People's Republic.

In the Donetsk direction , active combat operations of the assault groups of the Akhmat special forces detachment in the Maryinsky tactical direction, as well as units of the 1st Army Corps of the "Southern" group of troops in the area of the settlement of Avdiivka, continue.

During the fighting, up to 200 Ukrainian servicemen, two armored combat vehicles, two pickup trucks, a Grad MLRS combat vehicle, two US-made M777 artillery systems, as well as D-20 and D-30 howitzers.

In addition, in the areas of the settlements of Slavyansk and Minkovka of the Donetsk People's Republic, ammunition depots of the Liman operational-tactical group, as well as the 128th mountain assault brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine , were destroyed.

In the South-Donetsk and Zaporozhye directions , air strikes and artillery fire from the Vostok group of troops hit enemy units in the areas of the settlements of Pavlovka, Shevchenko of the Donetsk People's Republic, Chervonoe, Poltavka, Preobrazhenka and Malaya Tokmachka of the Zaporozhye region.

Up to 240 Ukrainian military personnel, two armored combat vehicles, nine vehicles, Msta-B howitzer, self-propelled artillery installation "Gvozdika" , as well as a combat vehicle MLRS "Grad".

Ammunition depots of the 11th artillery and 65th mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed in the areas of the settlements of Temirovka and Preobrazhenka in the Zaporozhye region.

In the Kherson direction, as a result of fire damage , up to 20 Ukrainian servicemen, two cars, as well as a Gvozdika self-propelled artillery installation, were destroyed.

Operational-tactical and army aviation, missile forces and artillery of groups of troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation over the past day hit 96 artillery units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in firing positions, manpower and military equipment in 73 districts.

Near the city of Dnepropetrovsk, a workshop for the assembly of Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles was hit by high-precision ground-based weapons.

Command and observation posts of the battalions of the 102nd territorial defense brigade and the 24th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were hit in the areas of the settlements of Poltavka, Zaporozhye region and Dzerzhinsk, Donetsk People's Republic.

In addition, the command posts of the Ukrainian troops were hit in the area of the settlement of Slavyansk of the Donetsk People's Republic and the city of Sumy.

Air defense systems intercepted two Storm Shadow cruise missiles, two Tochka-U tactical missiles and 14 HIMARS and Uragan multiple rocket launchers during the day.

In addition, 21 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles were destroyed in the areas of the settlements of Vrubovka, Lozovsky, Kremennaya of the Luhansk People's Republic, Orlinskoye, Maly Kremenchik, Volodino of the Donetsk People's Republic, Zhovtneve of the Kharkiv Region, Novaya Kakhovka, Lyubimovka, Andreevka of the Kherson Region, Rabotino of the Zaporozhye Region, and also over the Black Sea.

In total, since the beginning of the special military operation , 432 aircraft, 236 helicopters, 4473 unmanned aerial vehicles, 424 anti-aircraft missile systems, 9382 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1112 combat vehicles of multiple launch rocket systems, 4996 field artillery guns and mortars, and also 10656 units of special military vehicles.

There was so much talk about the Baltics here.

Made by a dude on Twitter.

Who thought that they would ever need the bomb shelters? Much better to just redeploy to funds, to Cyprus or Switzerland

   465 days of war, and only after the tragedy in Kyiv did we learn about the deplorable state of the bomb shelter! Data on the capital has appeared, which amaze with the inactivity of officials, but the situation in the country is even worse.

   44% of shelters in Kyiv are locked or unusable. This was stated by the Minister of Strategic Industries Alexander Kamyshin.

   In total, more than a thousand shelters have been checked. 11% of them were closed, another 33% were unusable.

   The check was carried out after the death of three people in the Desnyansky district of Kyiv. People could not get into the shelter during the missile attack.


https://t.me/rezident_ua/18118

EDIT

A Ukrainian government official expressed "disbelief" after an investigation he conducted showed that almost half of the shelters in Kyiv were not functional. Ukrainian Minister of Strategic Industries Alexander Kamishin said that of the 1,078 shelters examined, 359 were unprepared, 122 were locked, while only 597 were fully operational

A bit of background on the UA activities up north.

The enemy is again attacking the Shebekinsky district - which means the constant raids of the vyrus on the Belgorod region

Attacks by enemy DRGs and constant shelling of border settlements cannot but cause a strong reaction among the Russians. But this is the main sacred meaning of these suicidal attacks. A handful of vyruses, even reinforced by a couple of dozen Polish mercenaries, will not be able to influence the course of the SMO in any way, in which hundreds of thousands of military personnel from each side collided.

For Kiev, the reaction of the Russians to such raids and shelling is much more important than real military success. The enemy is doing everything possible so that the RF Armed Forces pull the troops to Belgorod.

The Belgorod-Kharkov agglomeration was formed back in Soviet times. Even after the collapse of the USSR, the connection between the regions did not weaken. Cities “grew” towards each other, and if almost no one lives in the Bryansk or Kursk regions along the border, then in the Belgorod region, within walking distance from Ukraine, there are several towns and villages at once.

This is a vulnerable target, and the enemy will constantly attack it.

And it is extremely difficult to resist this. It is possible to track down a DRG of 15-20 people moving through the forests to the same Novaya Tavolzhanka, but for this, you need to allocate multiple times larger resources.

The border of the Shebekinsky district alone with Ukraine is ~70 km long. For comparison, these are two lengths of the line of contact in the Avdeevka area or approximately 2/3 of the length of the front line in the Zaporozhye direction.

It is possible to close the border so that “the mouse does not slip through”, but this requires huge human and material resources. And all this so that a couple of dozen vyruses could not be photographed at the post office building.

There is only one way out of this situation - the liberation of Kharkov, but it will be problematic to start it before the Russian army repels the enemy counteroffensive.

But you need to work at least with the symptoms until a full-fledged "treatment" is not available. It is necessary to arm the TRO units and form our DRGs operating against the enemy frontier. This game can be played with two people.


https://t.me/Slavyangrad/49199

Kadyrov said that the terrorists, who periodically try to invade the Belgorod region, could be dealt with by the forces of Chechen units, he is waiting for an appropriate order

Backman wrote:Kadyrov said that the terrorists, who periodically try to invade the Belgorod region, could be dealt with by the forces of Chechen units, he is waiting for an appropriate order

Lapin wants to kill them, Prigozhin wants to kill them, now Kadyrov too.

the idea of future wars from the USSR in 1938.