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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon May 22, 2023 5:08 pm

    sundoesntrise wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:While I cannot say the claims of Ukie forces  (ethnic russians on Ukie side) is true or false as its claimed they captured the settlements of Kozinka, Glotove, Gora-Podil and fighting is on going.

    If true and this was allowed to occur so far behind your lines then things aren't going nearly as well as the cheerleaders say.

    The story is some Group called the liberty of russia legion is doing it.


    This is what russia gets if its true for allowing this to go on for so long and pussy footing like they have been

    100 guys with a couple of vehicles managed to make more territorial gains than the Russian Army barring Wagner did in the last 12 months.

    Facts.

    It is three very small villages so hardly huge gains, while this isn't the end of the world if true a force of hundreds managed to slip THAT FAR past your lines, undetected and went straight in and started shooting.

    if it was a small group of say 30 guys, I could understand that. It's easy for a small group of people to slip past long as they know what they are doing.

    But that many? no the russians will regain the turf of course and to me this is clearly a PR stunt meant to make the fall of bakhmut be forgotten BUT the fact is was even allowed to occur is utterly disgraceful and reveals a whole host of massive incompetence in the Russian military if hundreds of men plus mraps just got past you.

    AND if any cheerleader here says "Part of the plan" Then your telling me the Russians willingly let their own people get iced for their plan?

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    Post  Mir Mon May 22, 2023 5:09 pm

    Good god I didn't think for a moment the rodents would turn out for the "Battle of Belgarod" - but yeh here they are cheering on a couple of deranged Nazi fools! Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  sepheronx Mon May 22, 2023 5:10 pm

    So apparently the Ukies mostly were destroyed but there is still DRG men in the area holding a building or two.  MI-28's around and same with Mi-8.  Local law enforcement are being militarized to handle such people.

    A lot of confusion going on so far regarding this. Rybar says military is involved in clearing out.

    Some think this may be an excuse now to move onto Kharkov and others.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon May 22, 2023 5:10 pm

    Mir wrote:Good god I didn't think for a moment the rodents would turn out for the "Battle of Belgarod" - but yeh here they are cheering on a couple of deranged Nazi fools! Laughing Laughing Laughing

    I wouldn't mock if I where you again, I don't know if the claims are true but if they are, Russia literally got invaded, and civilians got gunned down on their own home turf well past the front line. Thats hardly something to underscore or downplay. I also don't see anyone "Cheering" I see people rightfully criticizing the russians if the claims are true.

    Fanboy or not if this is true, its perfectly reasonable to criticize the sheer incompetence of allowing such a thing to occur and it should be only a total dumbass would downplay it

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    Post  sundoesntrise Mon May 22, 2023 5:16 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:

    It is three very small villages so hardly huge gains, while this isn't the end of the world if true a force of hundreds managed to slip THAT FAR past your lines, undetected and went straight in and started shooting.

    if it was a small group of say 30 guys, I could understand that. It's easy for a small group of people to slip past long as they know what they are doing.

    But that many? no the russians will regain the turf of course and to me this is clearly a PR stunt meant to make the fall of bakhmut be forgotten BUT the fact is was even allowed to occur is utterly disgraceful and reveals a whole host of massive incompetence in the Russian military if hundreds of men plus mraps just got past you.

    AND if any cheerleader here says "Part of the plan" Then your telling me the Russians willingly let their own people get iced for their plan?

    I was actually hoping they'd put a couple of tank brigadrs in the field and roll all the way to Belgorod - that way Cucktin wouldn't have any other option than to actually do something but now he will probably make mean threats, speak about 'consequences' and praise his utterly incompetent Armed Forces.

    As for taking people on here seriously, you're surely joking. Anyone that still dwells this place for any other reason than taking the piss at stale Kremlin junkies should be categorized as delusional.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon May 22, 2023 5:24 pm

    sundoesntrise wrote:

    I was actually hoping they'd put a couple of tank brigadrs in the field and roll all the way to Belgorod - that way Cucktin wouldn't have any other option than to actually do something but now he will probably make mean threats, speak about 'consequences' and praise his utterly incompetent Armed Forces.

    As for taking people on here seriously, you're surely joking. Anyone that still dwells this place for any other reason than taking the piss at stale Kremlin junkies should be categorized as delusional.

    Thats if its true, I'll have to wait and see what info comes out. Possibly it was just a small saboteur group and people are making it seem more than it really was. I do not jump to conclusions, if the above is the truth then well Putin ha shown he is not a capable wartime leader for sure, he keeps playing it too nice, and thinks he can try and play chess with this war while putting in minimal effort, its clear he cares to much about the politics here as opposed to solving the problem

    In one way this could prove to be a good thing for russia. if they fail to take all of Ukraine situations like this will only get worse and worse and worse until its too late to stop it, so maybe this small taste of their possible future if they fail will wake their asses up or not and you will keep seeing moments like these and the cheerleaders will defend it, remains to be seen which it is

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon May 22, 2023 5:27 pm

    sundoesntrise wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:.....The story is some Group called the liberty of russia legion is doing it.


    This is what russia gets if its true for allowing this to go on for so long and pussy footing like they have been

    100 guys with a couple of vehicles managed to make more territorial gains in 3 hours than the Russian Army barring Wagner did in the last 12 months.


    Facts.

    Amen to this

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    If Russians insist on being pussies they will rightfully be fúcked as pussies because that's all pussies are good for







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    Post  sepheronx Mon May 22, 2023 5:28 pm

    ❗🇷🇺🇺🇦 The situation in the Belgorod region - what is known by 18.00

    The Governor of the Belgorod Region has introduced a counter-terrorist operation regime on the territory of the entire region. This confirms the fact that the DRG of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has not yet been liquidated by this hour. The militants managed to gain a foothold near Kozinka .

    ▪Russian units continue to fight on the outskirts of Grayvoron . Information about the extrusion of Ukrainian saboteurs from the villages of Glotovo and Gora - Podil is currently untrue.

    ▪At the same time, the shelling of the entire border area of the Belgorod region does not subside: the Belgorod-22 military unit, as well as civilian facilities in Grayvoron and the village of Zamostye , were under enemy fire. Six people were injured, including Anatoly Blyashenko , deputy head of the Grayvoronsky district.

    ▪Several empty buses were sent in the direction of the Graivoronsky district , intended, according to preliminary information, for the evacuation of civilians. The Ministry of Emergency Situations of the region deny the fact of sending messages about the evacuation.

    ▪Fake Ukrainian resources are spreading panic and rumors, including about the transfer of military personnel from the ranks of convicts to the Grayvoron city district. In the region itself, leaflets appeared with calls to surrender to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    Now angry Russian channels are posting information that in the Belgorod region they spent up to 10 billion rubles on fortifications, and as a result, the enemy broke through the border crossing along a regular road. This story has already been picked up by Ukrainian resources and is in every possible way stoking discontent in society.

    🔻As the author of the Veteran's Notes wrote , in total, up to a battalion of enemy personnel was involved in support activities and the most sabotage actions, including from the Ukrainian national battalions. Moreover, the accumulation of manpower of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the other side of the border was known for a long time - but no one made any conclusions.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon May 22, 2023 5:31 pm

    If a battalion sized unit was involved in this and the Russians didn't see it coming and the Ukie forces got in, all I can say is what the serious fucks were those morons doing....

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    Post  Mir Mon May 22, 2023 5:39 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    I wouldn't mock if I where you again, I don't know if the claims are true but if they are, Russia literally got invaded, and civilians got gunned down on their own home turf well past the front line. Thats hardly something to underscore or downplay. I also don't see anyone "Cheering" I see people rightfully criticizing the russians if the claims are true.

    Fanboy or not if this is true, its perfectly reasonable to criticize the sheer incompetence of allowing such a thing to occur and it should be only a total dumbass would downplay it

    This type of "thing" is called a "raid". Very common in any kind of warfare. You have to be a deranged Nazi fool yourself if you can't see the futility of this. The only reason for this raid is to distract from the victory in Artemovsk.

    Trust the rodents and 404 to make a big hooha of this. By tomorrow this will be all over but Atemovsk will remain as a great victory for the Russians.

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    Post  sepheronx Mon May 22, 2023 5:40 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:

    Amen to this

    Pussies are meant to be fùcked, it's the purpose of their existence

    If Russians insist on being pussies they will rightfully be fúcked as pussies because that's all pussies are good for



    While I'm pissed of the **** up from russian MOD on this and Shoigu and likes should be canned, sundoesntrise isn't spreading facts. In 1 year, Russia took about 30% of Ukraine.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon May 22, 2023 5:43 pm

    Mir wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    I wouldn't mock if I where you again, I don't know if the claims are true but if they are, Russia literally got invaded, and civilians got gunned down on their own home turf well past the front line. Thats hardly something to underscore or downplay. I also don't see anyone "Cheering" I see people rightfully criticizing the russians if the claims are true.

    Fanboy or not if this is true, its perfectly reasonable to criticize the sheer incompetence of allowing such a thing to occur and it should be only a total dumbass would downplay it

    This type of "thing" is called a "raid". Very common in any kind of warfare. You have to be a deranged Nazi fool yourself if you can't see the futility of this. The only reason for this raid is to distract from the victory in Artemovsk.

    Trust the rodents and 404 to make a big hooha of this. By tomorrow this will be all over but Atemovsk will remain as a great victory for the Russians.

    First off if you actually read what I wrote to people, you'd know I suggested this could be a raid and could be a diversion and that I'll wait for the facts to come out. If its a raid but a very small amount of men sure is completely understandable.

    However if its a few hundred guys plus vehicles, there is no dam excuse here and to try and defend it complete and utter idiocy to its FINEST.

    You really showed, you didn't read what I wrote and are simply attacking people for criticism if the above facts are true, good job.

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    Post  Belisarius Mon May 22, 2023 5:44 pm

    Prigozhin since september= Soledar, Yakovlevka, Paraskovievka, Artyomovsk

    Ru MoD: Cant even take the shithole village of Spornoye

    Without the RU mod Wagner wouldn't have a bullet to fire, they wouldn't have air defense/air support and would be bombed to shit, and without support from regular Russian army units covering the flanks Wagner wouldn't have been able to advance at all.

    He absolutely has the right to say anything

    I remember when Prigozhin complained about the lack of ammunition, in front of the bodies of his dead, and 12 hours later a video appeared showing the result of a massive bombardment with incendiary ammunition from Wagner against the AFU in Artyomovsk.
    Prigozhin is a liar and the only right he has is to shut the **** up.

    But of course, shoigu, muradov, the Russian armies 4d chess AI etc are infallible.

    Infallible they are not, but they are good enough to kill 8 times more enemy soldiers, using only a fraction of the Russian power against an enemy supported, economically and militarily, by more than 30 countries...

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    Post  Hole Mon May 22, 2023 5:45 pm

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #43 - Page 9 Fwvpag10
    In the meantime Russia is shelling the whole southern frontline.

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    Post  zorobabel Mon May 22, 2023 5:54 pm

    Russian MoD has barely taken a village since the collapses 7 months ago on the Kherson and Kharkov fronts.

    Whoever is producing results can say whatever he wants. And maybe if people would pull their heads out of the sand, they might realize he is making reasonable pointd, even if you don't like the language he is using.

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    Post  Mir Mon May 22, 2023 5:57 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    First off if you actually read what I wrote to people, you'd know I suggested this could be a raid and could be a diversion and that I'll wait for the facts to come out. If its a raid but a very small amount of men sure is completely understandable.

    However if its a few hundred guys plus vehicles, there is no dam excuse here and to try and defend it complete and utter idiocy to its FINEST.

    You really showed, you didn't read what I wrote and are simply attacking people for criticism if the above facts are true, good job.  

    You are quite right - I don't spend much time reading your posts. That goes for the rest of the rodents too.

    I'm not so sure about your inflated numbers there but I would say it would be very easy to disguise a fairly large group as Russians and that is most likely what they did.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon May 22, 2023 6:00 pm

    Mir wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    First off if you actually read what I wrote to people, you'd know I suggested this could be a raid and could be a diversion and that I'll wait for the facts to come out. If its a raid but a very small amount of men sure is completely understandable.

    However if its a few hundred guys plus vehicles, there is no dam excuse here and to try and defend it complete and utter idiocy to its FINEST.

    You really showed, you didn't read what I wrote and are simply attacking people for criticism if the above facts are true, good job.  

    You are quite right - I don't spend much time reading your posts. That goes for the rest of the rodents too.

    I'm not so sure about your inflated numbers there but I would say it would be very easy to disguise a fairly large group as Russians and that is most likely what they did.

    Yes with guns, gear, Russian mraps...got past all the check points, again if what being stated is true then You really show me you just prefer to keep your head in the ground rather than admit fault when its due

    I'll let the facts say the story, we will see what is true and false.

    I ain't no fanboy if the russians fucked up big, they deserve what they get period


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    Post  Backman Mon May 22, 2023 6:02 pm

    Timeline:

    - Bakhmut falls
    - "how can we distract the population from the defeat"
    - denial for two days while they come up with a plan
    -proceed to use the 'Russian rebels' ( ) to raid some defenseless village
    -hope that the news of the raid will take Bakhmut fall's place in the information space
    -let the Russian doom cucks take over the narrative 

    The end

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    Post  ucmvulcan Mon May 22, 2023 6:05 pm

    zorobabel wrote:Russian MoD has barely taken a village since the collapses 7 months ago on the Kherson and Kharkov fronts.

    Whoever is producing results can say whatever he wants. And maybe if people would pull their heads out of the sand, they might realize he is making reasonable pointd, even if you don't like the language he is using.

    Collapse? You mean withdrawal? These are two very different things. Collapse means Ukrain launched an offensive and took thousands of prisoners and inflicted lots of casualties. Withdrawal means you pulled back because it was not part of your plan to hold the ground. So yeah, I am seeing a withdrawal but I ain't seeing a collapse.

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    Post  Isos Mon May 22, 2023 6:08 pm

    There is a big difference between occupying a territory and making an incursion inside.

    What those guys did is a suicide mission. There is no way they escape with ka-52 looking for them.

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    Post  sepheronx Mon May 22, 2023 6:09 pm

    https://t.me/intelslava/47941

    🇷🇺🇺🇦 Local residents report the presence of Russian armored vehicles on the roads in the direction of Grayvoron. The footage shows a BMP-2 with identification marks of the RF Armed Forces.

    🇬🇧🇺🇦 As of 19.00, the first information about the losses as a result of the enemy’s DRG sortie into the Belgorod Region appeared.

    ▪Eight civilians were wounded, there were no deaths from the Russian side.

    ▪39 saboteurs who entered the territory of the Russian Federation were eliminated.

    🔻From the Ukrainian side, our sources report the movement of columns past Tsirkunov towards the settlement. Liptsy and state borders with Russia.

    This can be either an intention to put pressure on another point, or the continuation of the very information and psychological operation of the Kharkiv task force, about which Beregini wrote .
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    Post  Isos Mon May 22, 2023 6:10 pm

    Not going well for them.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon May 22, 2023 6:11 pm

    Isos wrote:There is a big difference between occupying a territory and making an incursion inside.

    What those guys did is a suicide mission. There is no way they escape with ka-52 looking for them.

    Suicide mission or not, you need to look at a map, where is the frontline compared to the three claimed spots?.

    Measure that distance then ask yourself if a large number of men was allowed to go that far, and kill civilians and not detected once.


    Again it depends on, the number of Ukies involved, a small raiding group okay, you can't fault the russians for that one but if its a force in the hundred or more with vehicles, that civilian blood is on the russians for letting the Ukies get that far

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    Post  Backman Mon May 22, 2023 6:13 pm

    Russia falls into these insignificant psyop traps so easily.  The president doesn't need to make statements about this bullshit. We can already see how these F-16s are going to be used. Incursions into Russia for propaganda 

    OFFICIAL: Putin was informed about an attempt by Ukrainian saboteurs to break into the Belgorod region - Peskov

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon May 22, 2023 6:22 pm

    🇷🇺 🏴☠🇺🇦According to preliminary data, 39 Ukrainian saboteurs were killed in the Grayvoronovsky district of the Belgorod region. There are prisoners.

    Many media and war coresspondents reports of this

    @DDgeopolitics

    They need to take buffer space next to the border, there's no way about it anymore

    Whether it's significant or not is irrelevant, the cheerleading squad can backflip for Putin, but doesn't change the reality

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