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    Post  Backman Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:43 pm

    Intel Slava. Unconfirmed

    The forces of the Black Sea Fleet managed to find the crash site of the American MQ-9 Reaper drone and raise its wreckage from the water.

    The fact that the Reaper itself got very close to Crimea and was 60 kilometers southwest of Sevastopol before it went down played in our favor, allowing our units to quietly retrieve the wreckage.

    The Romanian helicopters attempted to fly to the crash site, but after flying a little over 100 km, they turned back to base. The G-550 and P-8A Poseidon aircraft flew to the coast of the Black Sea to monitor the situation

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    Post  Hole Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:13 pm

     and tell me where i can find the source for the Bandit pictures you post? Russian special military operation in Ukraine #40 - Page 9 Icon_wink.
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    Khromovo is under attack by the Wagner guys.

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    Post  Hole Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:29 pm

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    The pilots which downed the drone. 
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    Post  Backman Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:30 pm

    Explosive device in Melitopol had capacity of about one kg of TNT equivalent — politician

    It is noted that the explosion destroyed a car near the marketplace in Kirov Street

    MELITOPOL, March 14. /TASS/. The explosive device that went off on Tuesday in the courtyard of an apartment building in Melitopol in the Zaporozhye Region had a capacity of about one kilogram in TNT equivalent, Vladimir Rogov, chairman of the We are Together with Russia movement said.
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    Post  ucmvulcan Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:39 pm

    For people who Kiev claims are Ukrainian forced to live under brutal Russian occupation, the Zelensky regime seems very reckless with the lives of people in Zaprozhiye. Of course this is the same shit show that shelled Ukrainian citizens in Donbass for 8 years and shut the water and electricity off to Crimea and wastes NATO aid on hitting Donbass. Watch them try to use the M1A1 and Leopard to hit small towns in the Russian zone instead of actually trying to hit Russian tanks.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:50 pm

    Hole, you are an freaking legend thumbsup
    I downloaded everything from that twitter feed.

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    and this footage...how did i mis this?!.
    I went with Frame interpolation and upscaling with this one.  russia



    Also, according to telegram sources the Apocalypse has fallen upon the Ukro reinforcements heading for Bakhmut.
    Kramatorsk civilians report massive artillery strikes.
    https://tmpfiles.org/1074631/kramatorsk.mp3

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:33 pm

    Of course they have and of course they will. Cool

    Good luck doing that at a supposed 60 miles off the Crimean coast with probably a RuN ship sitting on top.This must be the USAF sea water wipe method.

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    The U.S. Department of Defense is taking all measures possible to prevent the MQ-9 Reaper Drone that Crashed today in the Black Sea from falling into Russian Hands; they have reportedly already Remotely Wiped any Software from the Drone and are considering Recovery Operations.

    EDIT

    It was 60 kilometers southwest of Sevastopol

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    🇷🇺🇺🇸✈   It is reported that Russian sailors conducted a search operation and were able to recover some parts of the American MQ-9A drone that crashed at 9:28 a.m. today in the Black Sea.

    The fact that the Reaper itself got very close to Crimea and was 60 kilometers southwest of Sevastopol before it went down played in our favor, allowing our units to quietly retrieve the wreckage.

    The Romanian helicopters attempted to fly to the crash site, but after flying a little over 100 km, they turned back to base. The G-550 and P-8A Poseidon aircraft flew to the coast of the Black Sea to monitor the situation.


    EDIT 2 from MoA poster

    Another speculative viewpoint.
    Was there any fuel dump or touching at all?. From the track on Flightradar24, the drone was on a straight line trajectory until opposite Crimea, it then turned and headed straight for Sevastopol. Finally hitting the water about 60 km away.
    Second revelation by the Pentagon is that the Russians were next to the drone for about 30-40 minutes.
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    The Russians claim that nothing was touched and do not mention fuel spraying.

    Did the Russians try to take over the drone by hacking as the Iranians did sometime back?. ... and the only alternative the US could find was to "suicide" the drone into the sea to give them time to trash the software. (They did that anyway but may have needed more time)

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    Post  Airbornewolf Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:59 am

    Just to mention one other thing, and give my opinion.

    The people advocating to just remove the restrains on all kinds of horrible weaponry.

    You do know this will be returned in kind right?.
    Everyone forgot NATO's track record?...everywhere around the world?.
    NATO command are a bunch of unhinged psychopaths.

    The people that just throw a handful of dollars in your face if you lost an fammily member?.
    They will not second-guess to return the favor.
    The Ukrainians are pawns to be used, and Russians are sub-human.
    I believe "collateral damage" and "excessive force" are the keywords in NATO's playbook.

    War is an horrible affair. people die, and your own guys make the ultimate sacrifice.
    But this should not sacrifice your own humanity in the process.

    Also,you know the Ukrainians like to sit on top of civilians hiding in shelters.
    They do not care if they use hospitals or residential area's.

    The handbook in Ukro defense. Human shields everywhere.
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    The people in those cellars, chose not to flee. because they await Russian liberation.

    Everyone forgot Mariupol?
    It is not Propaganda, People hold out for the RF forces.




    At the 06:30 mark


    They are just people, trying to wait the RF arrival.

    People like to point out what an monster NATO is, and they are right.
    But do not become the Monster to lower yourself to their justifications.

    Yes, Ukraine does everything that is a warcrime.
    they are Nazi's. you expect less?.
    the RF is not. It is already an example how to wage an war against an immoral enemy.
    With an completely corrupt superpower with it's vassals behind it that does not care about any norms and values.

    They all will be Denazified in all due time.
    Either by ending their primary life signs, conquest or running for their lives to europe.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:26 am


    There aren't any historic abbeys in Ukraine (don't really see why that shit would matter anyway, it's Ukraine)

    And if Ukrainians are still alive after first pass just give it another one and another one after that to hammer the point home

    Things never work when you halfass it and give up halfway through

    Unless Russia really is running low on ordinance?

    The point is that it wasn't fortified and did not have any enemy troops in it when they hit it the first time and they hit it very very hard... and then the Germans moved into the ruins and they hit it hard several more times and then tried to take it with a ground assault and failed miserably multiple times.

    Neither bombardment nor ground assault were effective, so claiming hitting it over and over would be like claiming the western strategic bombing campaign of WWII had any effect other than killing women and children and old people, while the Soviets fought the german soldiers on the front lines.

    Western strategic bombing would never have won the war even if it continued for 100 years... it simply was not effective.

    Hey Garry, seems like the Grom 31 you guys used failed to hit its target by a mile just like your FAB 500. Hit the bricks pal you might end up bombing Moscow.

    Interesting that you quote me talking about an avionics upgrade to raise the accuracy of bombing with cheap dumb bombs to the level of guided weapons and then show what is claimed to be a guided glide bomb with no context of where it is or what happened and then claimed Russian bombing accuracy is as bad as US bombing performance in WWII.

    What do you think this proves exactly?

    Some weapons get shot down, some hit their target but get photographed from angles so you can't tell it impacted in the middle of a tank factory... it is a new weapon and they are just getting some real practise with it in a realistic testing ground.

    Experience in this conflict will only make Russian weapons and tactics more effective... while the west ferments in its own stew of arrogance and inflated opinion of itself... Razz

    Even if the missiles failed, so what? We (US) Have had missiles miss too, it happens. There are many examples of Russian incompetence in this war, so dunno why you choose to brag about something that's more a malfunction or even a test flight gone bad

    All three images of this impact are zoomed in so you can't see where it hit or what it might have been aimed at, from an account known to sell Kievs lies and bullshit.


    Hopefully then the pilot set light to it, sorry turned the afterburner on which accidentally ignited the dumped fuel thumbsup Or, more likely it just ignited on the MQ-9's hot exhaust. If so what a brilliant plan, downed the MQ-9 without actually attacking it. Clearly an unfortunate accident. I wonder how the US knows what happened.

    Obviously someone in the US State Department discussed it with officials that have nothing to do with the situation or information about what actually happened and together they decided that the best story for them to release was this...

    It's comparable i guess to the 90s vintage JSOW glide bombs. Better very late than never i suppose.

    GROM is a glide bomb that comes in two versions... one with a bomb payload and a rocket motor section to hit targets 100km+ away and another version with the rocket motor replaced with more HE for a bigger boom that can glide to targets 40km away...

    And how does this stop it from dropping into the trench?

    Plus I'm still waiting on reason why they shouldn't use it

    The same thing that stops molotov cocktails from being effective from armoured vehicles... proper bunkers have positive pressure systems in their ventilation systems which prevents liquids coming in... which also stops them filling up with water when it rains.

    Thermobarics are different, especially the Russian ones.... the fuel is spread in the local air around the target but explodes from the centre outwards so the blast wave blows the fuel outwards and as it expands it moves through more air providing more oxygen as it detonates... it explodes... it does not burn like a flamethrowers fuel... it explodes like petrol heated to its flashpoint...

    Ukraine is also full of civilians that just want better life standard like anyone else.

    It's easy to say to bomb all Ukraine. A bit more harder to push the buttons and kill actual people.

    Harder for humans, but easy for psychopaths, which is why they prefer the latter to fly their drones and have problems when they find their drone operations are human.

    There are claims out there that the Russians actually downed a Global Hawk, FORTE-10, not a Reaper, 18 miles off the Crimean coast. Waiting to see if one of the Flight Tracker sites comes up with this. Saying its a Reaper to reduce impact.

    The Russians said it had its transponders turned off... therefore it was a danger to air traffic in the region and they should have shot it down.

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    Post  diabetus Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:34 am

    GarryB wrote: GROM is a glide bomb that comes in two versions... one with a bomb payload and a rocket motor section to hit targets 100km+ away and another version with the rocket motor replaced with more HE for a bigger boom that can glide to targets 40km away...

    So exactly what I said, playing catch up with the old JSOW.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:11 am

    JSOW is an expensive gliding guided bomb.

    It was a brand new design related to no previous weapon.

    GROM is based on the body of the Kh-38 air to surface missile and comes in an all HE gliding guided bomb configuration, similar to JSOW, but it also comes in the rocket boosted version with extended attack range which the JSOW model was cancelled.

    The wiki page mentions JSOW and its use in Feb 2001 where every weapon missed its target because of a software problem... amusing...

    They stopped using JSOWs so they could have more JIZZMs....

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    Post  nomadski Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:38 am

    Let's see my shopping list :

    ( 1 )  Atmospheric test site ok'd .

    ( 2 ) Nazi ( political ) party disrupted by Khinzal .

    ( 3 ) Tensions raised by B52 , near St. Petersburg .

    ( 4 ) Mini- pincer closing in Artemovsk .

    ( 5 ) Direct ( or indirect ) response against yank ( drone getting hot and wet , or was it wet and hot !)


    Now what's left ....? Where do they keep those Bridge busters ? ...And Napalm for trenches ....? Why is it that anything good in life , is either illegal , immoral or fattening ? Now that most of my shopping is done , and everything is ok , you can all relax and listen to some " unprofessional " music !

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    Post  Arrow Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:16 am

    The US is already thinking about a real NATO-Russia conventional war.

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    Post  Tolstoy Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:58 am

    For those of you outside Russia this is what Russian TV stations are saying about this incident. The MQ 9 drone approached the Su -27 and then tried to do a hard right. However, the propellers were not designed for such hard maneuvers causing two of the blades to break and fall off. Consequently, the drone crashed.

    This is by far the most logical explanation of the incident.

    A RuAF pilot is not a western cowboy who will risk dumping excess fuel on the drone, realising fully well that the resulting fire might easily engulf his own aircraft.

    Drones are one of the top selling product of the U.S and this recent incident highlights the massive shortcoming of the drones. With egg on their face they are producing one conspiracy theory after another about how their uber expensive drone went down.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:26 am

    The drone in question has a tail mounted pusher propeller so for the Russian pilots to have hit the prop they would have to ram it from behind... which would be a real risk to the flanker pilot because coming from behind and hitting it in the rear with your nose or wing puts drone prop fragments very close to the flankers two main air intakes under the body of the aircraft.

    The Russian description seems rational, a contact was detected with its transponders turned off so it would be visible to military radar but not visible to civilian radar and civilian air traffic, which represents a real threat to military and civilian aircraft operating in the area... the US is giving Kiev new equipment all the time... how was Russia to know it wasn't being used by Kiev to mount an attack on Crimea, Kiev and the US have mentioned attacks on Crimea and Russia multiple times.

    The US account is emotive and uses the same language they use every time a country contests their right to do anything they please thousands of kms away from their own air space... which has become easy to ignore really.

    Such drones are relatively fragile and whether it was jet wash from a fighter flying past or the drone itself tried to perform evasive manouvers we may never know.

    It will likely just be added to the collection.

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:22 am

    If it is the case that Russia is not using thermobarics because they do not wish to kill civilians then I would expect them to start using them extensively on historically irrelevant west Ukrainian cities.

    Save the napalm for nato filth, their suffering is more important.


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    Post  nomadski Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:23 am

    After Putin warned others not to interfere , then Russia should have retaliated in the beginning , when they did interfere and crossed the red lines . NATO was much more divided and reluctant at first to interfere , than they are now . They were allowed to become emboldened and " united " by Russia's lack of response , as per warnings and red lines , they coalesced . Still it is not too late , although and belatedly , to smash their false unity to pieces . Russia is talking about dead and maimed soldiers and they are talking about " unprofessional ! " . Time to change the conversation . Now where are those khinzals ? Maybe on the next aisle ......


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    Post  famschopman Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:24 am

    Some things we will probably never hear but I wonder if the drone was actually flying within Russian territory. Already seen some rumors about it only being 18 miles of the coast. That doesn't make it international waters anymore.

    On the downing; propellors are really tough and don't break on sharp turns, not sure about that theory. What I do can imagine is

    a) The fuel spray caused sensors and/or camera's to give less than optimal feedback to the remote pilot; causing temporary limited visibility
    b) The drone ended up in the turbulence/wake of the SU27; the software failed to apply the corrections needed to maintain a stable flight and given that remotely controlled objects deal with latency (and maybe option a) the operator was unable to provide timely input to correct flight
    c) The remote operator simply panicked or made corrections outside of operational parameters (one should expect the software to correct that ... ) and the drone went into a dive.
    d) The SU27 or any other device jammed the drone (Iran had some success in the past with the RQ-170)

    And (imho) less likely
    e) The engine power suddenly increased because of the fuel; on a jet engine it is relatively easy as the fuel gets mixed in the air stream and enters the combustion chamber. On a prop engine the fuel lines are isolated. There is still a change of fuel ending up in the air and finding its way via air filters but I doubt the volume passed will have a significant effect on the engine.

    f) You never know. Windows Update forced a reboot on the drone OS mid-air. Wink

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    Post  Kiko Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:01 am

    Parts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are trying to retreat from Artemovsk along country roads, 03.15.2023.

    Pushilin's adviser Gagin: units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are trying to retreat from Artemovsk along country roads.

    MOSCOW, March 15 - RIA Novosti. Scattered Ukrainian units are trying to retreat from Artemovsk along country roads, said Jan Gagin, adviser to the acting head of the DPR, on the air of the Rossiya 24 TV channel.

    "Periodically, some scattered units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine try to retreat from Artemovsk . Due to the fact that the roads are controlled, they try to retreat along country roads or fields, through forest plantations," he said.

    At the same time, due to the spring thaw, equipment cannot pass through the mud and the Ukrainian military has to retreat on foot. They suffer serious losses, and equipment becomes an easy target, Gagin added.

    According to him, Ukrainian troops regularly attempt counteroffensives, but all of them are stopped.

    https://ria.ru/20230315/artemovsk-1857966352.html

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    Post  GarryB Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:20 am

    Operating at relatively high altitude, with jet aircraft blowing past it at high speed a subsonic platform like this drone would be like a U2 which could get into a spin or other difficult flight position from which it could not recover.

    I would discount most of the information from the US side, they lie so much I think they would do it automatically as a habit, so they are not credible.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:06 am

    Prigozin confirmed Zaliznanske taken.

    48.70129001038017, 37.9386262928887

    They are 1/3 way up to Slaviansk/Krematorsk.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:09 am

    A Polish general said that after Slovyansk and Kramatorsk are taken, the next defensive line will be on the Dneper.

    Is he right or not?
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