Russian special military operation in Ukraine #40

Russia is a slow student but they always surpass their master. If the health of future innocents and the environment is an acceptable collateral damage in war then fine, message received.

Just don't come crying when they sink the UK with Poseidon.

hurray, with chips, Russia now has smart lawnmowers and shovels to do some gardening with Ukronazi compost.

Most of those components are not even of Chinese design or make. They are commercial products anyone can buy anywhere anytime. It would be impossible to control the flow of supplies for these items, for the same reasons drug smuggling is as persvasive as ever, so no one really bothers.

But there are core craft components of very limited production that can be controlled like microbolometers for thermal sights for example. Russia just has to focus on developing those for their own use - just as they did for the microbolometers when they secured a production license for the manufacture of Thales thermal sights. The license has been revoked but the know how and infra is still there.

The microbolometers Russia uses since 4 or so years ago are of the ones used in Irbis K which are made entirely by UOMZ (NPO Cyclone) part of the Rostec corporation. Performance similar to Catherine XP. I'm unsure of the more recent advancements but that was of the cooled variant of microbolometers. Uncooled ones used in rifle scopes are also made in Russia.

Correction: UOMZ is a different company, NPO Orion is the company.

https://orion-ir.ru/production/opticheskie-elementy/matrichnyy-fotopriemnyy-modul-na-osnove-okhlazhdaemoy-matritsy-fotodiodov-iz-antimonida-indiya-fem18m-03/

Russia doesn't have Catherine XP thermal imagers since they can't get from France.

Russia has been making their own for 8 years, overdrive in 4 years. Very specific parts to the imager like the microbolometer itself wasn't made in Russia but sold to Russia. Russia had to start its own production fresh but they used the basis of the Catherine FC to make their own - ФЭМ18М-03

I believe Archs story as much as I believe anything a Ukrainian would say.

Edit : Backman wrote " What demands is Russia making that are of concern to China ? China is helping where it can. What should they do? Send troops ? " Why not ? The western nations sending troops and advisers , many were killed . Why not China and Iran send troops ?

The west is sending advisors and volunteers because they are stealing its assets... coal and steel and titanium and the rich soils simply cannot be carted off in retreat, they have to fight for them so they allow token numbers of their own go and pretend they are helping thinking their super economic sanctions will isolate Russia and make it collapse and get rid of Putin once and for all... it hasn't worked.

China and Iran could send men, but how could they help more than the locals that have been fighting their fellow Ukrainians for the better part of the last 10 years?

Troops from China and Iran would be useful for China and Iran to learn a bit of modern combat against a real peer enemy, but Russia wont benefit that much from their assistance...

When it comes to opinion who can say who is right and who is wrong... this situation is very complex so there is no 100% right and 100% wrong, but even more complex you can be right for the wrong reasons and wrong but your reasoning is sound, there are so many factors involved here that everyones input is important... just because an opinion sounds stupid or wrong does not mean a party to this conflict doesn't hold that opinion as correct.

I see Bolton just opposed the US cooperating with the ICC... but only because he wants Kiev to try him or a western puppet regime that takes over in Russia to do it instead.

Right for the wrong reasons.

There is lots of talk about use of best soldiers implying limited supply. I suppose that these
are the ones who were trained before the start of the operation last year and are still left alive.

I guess it might include troops that were stationed at the Belarus border or in rear areas, either as an elite reserve, or because mummy and daddy had money and power but not enough to keep them out of uniform.

The expectation for the spring offensive by Dima and others is being overly generous with the resources that the Kiev regime has.

They talk about a spring offensive, but they don't mention if it will be successful or not, but I guess that is not the point, because when it fails it will be because the west didn't give enough ammo and weapons and obviously they need F-35s and F-22s and B-21s... no crappy B-2s are not good enough, they want the new B-21s...

And they are saving the west from Russia so you owe them everything...

Quadcopter with MON-50 mine

Trench clearing tool... would like to see the bigger model with the MON-300 mine... imagine a formation of a dozen of these working together as a swarm to blunt an infantry charge over open ground... hover at about 3m altitude and bam... with overlapping kill zones...

Problem is that even "depleted" uranium is mildly radioactive, and while not a problem in case of external exposure (handling it etc), it becomes a problem if ingested or breathed in, as the body's natural defenses against ionizing radiation (the dead outer skin layer etc) are bypassed.

First of all depleted is a nice term, this is spent uranium fuel rod material... it is nuclear waste, and it is cheap because you can either use it as ammo or armour or you bury it for 10,000 years with the other low grade nuclear waste.

The situations with human beings is made rather worse because the human body mistakes depleted Uranium for another metal... calcium... so it uses this mildly radioactive material to build bones where it comes in close contact with bone marrow which is a critical part of the human bodies immune system...

It is genotoxic... it damages human cells at the DNA level...

The new born children are going to be monsters if you have this in your system it will be your children that suffer, but you will likely get cancer and wont see their life of suffering.

Worried about DU ? Well they are allowing atmospheric tests . All you need to know is the wind direction !

A few atmospheric tests off the coast of the UK in the Atlantic might be a good idea... it is only radiation after all.

UK wants to put radiation in Russian dirt then Russia could put radiation in UK air...

Russia should demonstrate a fake heavy fallout explosion near the Polish border with strong westerly winds and should really use uranium ammunition by Ukraine using a dirty bomb very near the Polish border. Not with a lot of uranium dust, but the message is unmistakable!

I would prefer the message to be directed at the UK rather than Poland in this instance for obvious reasons.

Instead of throwing around empty threats why aren't Russians already using these same projectiles?

Because you don't shit where you eat... most of the Ukraine is going to be Russian territory by the way HATO is fighting... why create a long term radiation problem for yourself?

HATO used DU in Serbia and Iraq because they never intended to stay.

Commander of logistics forces of Ukrainian Navy Rear Admiral Igor Stupnitsky staunchly defends his homeland in one of saunas in Odessa

Poor bastard... there is no condensation on that beer... it must be room temperature!

Oh the suffering!

In time, we will see if RF forces encounter these DU rounds. And what the RF response will be.

I appreciate what you are saying but I think it is the wrong tactic... Russia needs to quickly find a button to push to prevent DU rounds being delivered, because after they are delivered will be too late.

This isn't a game about who is cooler... if the UK wants to start playing with toxic materials perhaps really attacking the UK with toxins might be a solution... I am sure if the Russians really used what the west calls novachok then the wakeup call would be loud and clear and those thinking this is still just a game will retire hurt.

Russia's fault honestly, for the DU rounds.

Bullshit, this is just evidence that the west never listened to what is being said... Putin talked about Red Lines and they called him weak and stupid and then Russia invaded what is now new bits of Russia and they were shocked and horrified at the unprovoked Russian aggression... many still haven't worked out a link between Russia telling the west where its red lines were and the current situation and many still think the solution is to get Kiev into HATO and properly arm and equip them to win...

Russia will not miss the west, there is no doubt in my mind that at some stage Russia is going to close its embassies in the EU and US and "west" and close their embassies in Russia so it can focus on the rest of the world for trade and cooperation.

Who needs lectures from the most evil countries on the planet.

Again, do you honestly think uranium rounds are not being used now as we speak?

The inbred west can't reprocess its uranium so everything coming out of all their nuclear reactors... military and civilian, can be used as ammo and armour... they have an enormous supply and so letting them start will lead to that being the only type of ammo the nazis use for everything.

If Ukraine captured t90m that's bad, as now the US will get all the data and tech from it

In their arrogance I would doubt they will learn any useful lessons... with the quality of the steel for the subs is substandard (intentional pun there) then I doubt the steel they use for their armour is much better...

Russia doesn't have Catherine XP thermal imagers since they can't get from France.

They don't, but they are skilled engineers just as capable as any anywhere in the west... they were behind the development curve because the Soviet Union didn't invest a lot of money and effort into thermal imagers because they were expensive, but producing French thermals for the domestic and export market has gotten them up to speed and I would suggest they are likely making state of the art systems as we speak.

With the Sidewinder missile, it was not that it was more advanced than Soviet missiles, in fact it was simpler and that was what was worth copying, its modular design so parts could be upgraded or replaced if faulty and the design was simpler too.

I believe Archs story as much as I believe anything a Ukrainian would say.

I gave him a like because the core of what he was saying was true... China is selling electronic components to Russia even though Russia will be making a lot of their own electronics it makes sense to not ruin washing machines by taking out their electronics because your clothes quickly get stinky.

Are there any Russian satellites with nuclear battery , that can be de- orbited over the said territory ?

Would not be accurate enough...

I was going to suggest offering Argentina some Kilo class subs for lease, along with the training and support to actually make them effective, and then perhaps some Su-30s with RVV-BD AAMs and long range anti ship missiles too... might allow them to assert their authority over land that was taken from them, but of course the problem with that would be if the UK then said they would not send DU rounds to the Ukraine...

The difference in actual performance would be minor while the potential damage would be significant, but the latter would not effect the UK either way so there has to be another reason for them not to send them.

Perhaps another leak of Novachok around Portam Down that kills tens of thousands like a real leak of the real weapon would do might be too much... but will they pay attention to anything else?

Cool it down, gentlemen! It's just a provocation from the Whitehall military high command.

Talking about their options is interesting, but most of these options would never be implemented... but I think it would be good for the UK and US to hear a few of the more extreme responses just to take this all a bit more seriously and be a bit more cautious about their escalations.

Damaging data cables would be going a bit too far, but talking about damaging them might help things...

I am sure if they look carefully there will be things they can do to damage the UK in a way that hurts the politicians making this decision without hurting everyone in the country... perhaps a promise to count up the volume of DU material they deliver to Kiev and perhaps say dumping that in UK waters via an underwater drone, or perhaps using some of those captured water surface drones they used to attack the Russian fleet in the Crimea to attack the British fleet at anchor anywhere in the world.

The irony is that the DU the west is planning to use can be used for fuel by Russia, so it really isn't a waste product for them...

I am sure they will come up with a solution to this issue that will make those UK officials regret their decision.

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It's serious shit here

well good for them.. and i guess China could be also willing to sell some imageries from their Gaofen-11 Satellite. Thus there would be no need to rush with Razdan or new Persona satellite.