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    Post  TMA1 Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:48 pm

    That video was hard to watch. Just as bad as other more violent videos seen in this conflict. Russia and it's people have handled themselves with great nobility. So many here in the west are genuinely deluded by the propaganda. It is so stark a difference that it makes clear for those who wish to see that Russia is on the right in all of this.

    We have no leaders like Putin. Love him or hate him he has the prowess and aptitude of leaders generations back. I distinctly remember there was a little clip of Putin quietly talking to one of his men. I remember he said with a somber smile and tired face "well-- we tried". It was in the context of finally going through with the SMO. It was soon after the events that happened before this conflict in Kazakhstan. We have nobody like this. Good or bad. Mediocrity and evil.

    And all these brother slavs are fighting. Russia resisting the west, while it sacrifices Russia's brothers to hold up the fake legitimacy of their hegemon. To you Russians here God bless you guys.

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    Post  zorobabel Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:55 pm

    On the contrary, the US wants Germany to allow NATO operators of Leopard 2's (excluding Germany) to provide them to Ukraine. Almost every country who wants to send them to Ukraine expects them to be replaced by M1A2 Abrams tanks. That is, the US wants to displace the already minimal German defense industry's position on the European continent. That's just simple imperial economics, just as the US opposed Russian gas supplies (and blew up NS2) so they could replace it with American LNG. It's a good way to remind the vassals of their lack of autonomy.

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    Post  Krepost Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:04 am

    The Ukrainians have posted a video of their boats under fire while retreating.
    Timing: December

    No further information made available.

    https://t.me/actual_Z/28507
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    Post  thegopnik Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:15 am

    Man I don't even know why Paralay created an account on F-16.net with just 9 posts back in january 2009 commenting on the Ukraine war. He could create an account here or if he feels like arguing with western users than go to defense hub live where you wont get a ban expressing your views even if the place is filled with Turks and Indonesians. Assuming if anyone has his contacts at least message him for me.
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    Post  Godric Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:14 am

    the big threat to America is Saudi Arabia, if they join BRICS and ditch the petro dollar the rest of OPEC will follow suit and US debt woes will only worsen, Yellen was meant to meet some top Chinese government figure asking China to stop selling US debt bonds and instead buy more, after all the blocking of Micro chips to China by the American government ... these people have a bare faced cheek

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    Post  mnztr Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:36 am

    TOS-1A neutralizing Ukrainian infantry in Bakhmut wrote:

    TOS would be the weapon I would most want to unleash on people trying to kill me. I wonder why we have seen no footage from people on the receiving end of a TOS barrage? hmmmmm Its really brilliantly savage in a most Russian way
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    Post  thegopnik Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:39 am

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    Post  PhSt Mon Jan 23, 2023 4:05 am

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    Not sure if authentic but if it is then I would really love to see dead American invaders in Pukraine. Also, an American offensive will give Russia the justification to liberate all former soviet union territories. And those who refuse to be Russified will be subjected to depopualtion attack

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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 23, 2023 4:18 am

    Their cunning plans have gone off the rails so they are doubling down with escalation. Their one and only hope is that Russia blinks
    first. They assume that Russia not acting like they do means that Russia is weak.

    Russian officials are starting to broadcast that Russia will resort to all necessary means to defend itself. But I am not sure if these
    hubris filled psychopaths have the ability to listen.

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    Post  thegopnik Mon Jan 23, 2023 4:55 am

    https://militaryland.net/maps/deployment-map/
    Looking at the Voronezh Oblast i see a 4 X symbol which means 80k-300k https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_army Also If i am looking at the map correctly Kyiv really does not have huge force, so I am assuming that's because all of them are nearly in Bakhmut. If this is the case than I think Ukraine's situation is really dire than I thought before.

    I am starting to think now that Russia does not want too many convicts to be free men or have taxpayers pay for them again which could be the reason FOABs have not been dropped on the blue squares. Don't want to make it look like its a story related to this sadly. Where Russia is the Covenant, Wagner is the banished, slavs are the elites, chechens are the brutes(look the same to), tuvans are the jackals and chinese will be our grunts, jews will be the high prophets, russo-ukraine war is the great journey, Zelensky is king yapyap sending grunt wave attacks etc.


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    Post  GarryB Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:03 am

    My Sunday morning laugh. Not sure if the figure in blue is the past day or week

    Kiev independent... independent of reality...

    Most of the cockpit vids from the choppers present shooting ranges up to 8km, so I guess they are utilizing the older missiles mostly.

    Or perhaps that they are not using them at their absolute max range...

    They lacked troops, infantry above all, to make so.

    They had the troops for the things they did, it was when they started to change tactics that they needed a different force structure for different tactics and also a changing enemy force.

    As was mentioned the Orcs were trained as guerilla forces that operate behind enemy lines autonomously... not sit in dugouts and get shelled.

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    Post  zorobabel Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:13 am

    Seems RU got bogged down in the villages south of Orekhov. I guess that is to be expected? 1km per day.
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    Post  billybatts91 Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:38 am

    Mexico......a future BRIC member? Would piss off America, they might invade Mexico if they go down that path lol, or assassination of leadership.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:52 am

    Is this true? I certainly hope so...

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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:53 am

    mnztr wrote:I wonder why we have seen no footage from people on the receiving end of a TOS barrage?

    Cuz the people get vapourised by the heat and and their cameras get disintegrated by the pressure wave Twisted Evil

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:25 am

    Seems RU got bogged down in the villages south of Orekhov. I guess that is to be expected? 1km per day.

    One Russian expert said that was intentional... the HATO countries training the Orcs were training them for hit and run behind the lines special forces type attacks using highly mobile forces in civilian vehicles with ATGMs and MANPADS, but the Russians shortened their lines and really only occupied friendly areas of the Ukraine where such teams would not get a lot of support, so instead of doing what they were trained to do roving Russian rear areas attacking supply and logistics units, they ended up sitting in trenches getting regular doses of Russian artillery.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:44 am

    ... while their creme de la creme SSO units, highly motivated and really fine-trained for years, are being vaporized while trying to cross the rivers to stage some peremoga commercials.
    It was last week when the entire AT squad of 10 people was blown up while hitting the mine en route to the frontline. Imagine that. AT trained soldier, whose training lasted for 4-5 years and costed $1mln, put in a trench awaiting 152mm arrival ...

    Edit : a pure gold.

    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/42003

    Ukro sniper positions on the roof of a residential building, with civilians inside. Clearly audible in the background. It will be of course "Russkie war crime" when vaporized.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:13 am

    @ Big_Gazza

    There indeed might be something going on in Hungary's top Command.
    And the defense minister goes to Serbia around the same time?.
    where is smoke, there is fire they say.

    https://dailynewshungary.com/hundreds-of-high-ranking-military-officers-sacked-in-hungary/

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:30 am

    ... I have told you a while ago.
    Once the Russians will reach Transdnistria, they will control the Danube delta. The
    The Danube is an exterritorial water artery that can be freely passed by any country in the river flow.
    No country can block it.
    That would mean water access to both Hungary and Serbia, for both Russian and other friendly traffic.
    With Romania surrounded by countries sharing the interest in a free trade flow.
    It will reshape the whole of European economics, all the way up the flow to Vienna.
    Countries will get brand new opportunities, while EU is on a bring of political&economic catastrophe will make both monds&hearts more open for the new horizons ...

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    Post  Firebird Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:42 am

    Would be nice if Hungary did see the light.
    But I suspect the EU/GATO/Uncle Satan also have plans.

    If Hungary joined with Russia, it would be very helpful for Serbia. And Russia could deal with the W Ukraine easier, as Belarus and Hungary share borders. Likewise with Transnistria, altho there is the Moldova American puppet regime currently.

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    Post  Firebird Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:46 am

    @Alamo
    Regardless of politics, I don't think people in the GATO sphere of influience realise how controlled they are.

    With the USSR present, Western countries would have Socialist govts. Trades unions, public ownership etc etc.
    With no rival to Uncle Satan of Washington, the WEF gang took over. Mass over immirgation from the 3rd world, zero hrs contracts, wage slavery, corporativism all took over in the West. With alternative spheres of interest - China, Russia etc, ordinary people have choices against.

    This would be good news for the vast majority, not the 0.0001 % in the WEF Davos gang.

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    Post  Regular Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:35 am

    I’ve heard US will leave NATO

    Nonsense, why would Hungary leave if they are milking them dry? Do you realise that they would end up in worse position than Serbia? Surrounded by NATO with increasingly more hostile Romania?

    NATO can’t even kick them out for multiple times blocking support for Ukraine? Hungary is also much more useful for Russia in the block than out, non-NATO Magyars would be even less independent. If more “independent” Serbian president starts to sing NATO songs when his balls are squeezed, what do you think Orban will do? Granting he wouldn’t be Maidaned.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:45 am

    Your narrative is being made from the position of no other choice.
    As soon as those choices will appear - a whole structure can simply decompose.
    Doesn't have to, but you have an example of Africa. A whole postcolonial order secured there by the French just fall apart as a house of cards as soon as serious alternatives emerged. In a decade, the colonial franc will be history.
    Landlocked Serbia, surrounded by hostile or aligned countries has very little space for moving.
    That is why so much effort was allocated to strip it off Montenegro.
    It was a whole social project applied, to taming the people who are identical to consider themselves different.
    Divide et impera.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:11 pm

    @AZgeopolitics
    Soledar direction ,situation as of 13.00 on January 23, 2023
    ▫Soledar direction,the assault detachments of the Wagner PMCs, after the liberation of the village of Krasnopolye,are moving in the direction of Razdolovka to the north of Soledar and Blagodatnoye in the west

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:47 pm

    Fast advances are not made so that the enemy does not do damage with tactics of special comandos in the back of the front for soldiers and material.

    A simultaneous push of the entire front in small steps where the following units is always folled in order to secure the nearby hinterland, the current way seems to be.

    If Iraq had used this NATO tactic in 2003, the US losses would have been significantly higher. Who knows, possibly even so high that the tips of the attack should have withdrawn on foot.

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