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    Post  Kiko Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:20 pm

    The Pope supported the idea of ​​a Christmas truce in Ukraine[/b], 01.05.2023.

    Pope Francis supported Putin's idea of ​​a Christmas truce in Ukraine.

    MOSCOW, January 5 - RIA Novosti. Chairman of the World Union of Old Believers (WBU) Leonid Sevastyanov supported the initiative of Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Rus' on a Christmas truce in the special operation zone, proposing to extend the time of the truce until the celebration of Epiphany, and told RIA Novosti that Pope Francis, with whom he is well acquainted, told him which supports the idea of ​​a truce and its extension.

    Earlier, Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Rus' proposed to establish a Christmas truce from 12:00 on January 6 to 24:00 on January 7. Russian President Vladimir Putin then instructed Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu to introduce a ceasefire along the entire line of contact in Ukraine at a specified time. In accordance with the instructions of the President, the decree on a ceasefire was given to the troops.

    As the head of the World Union of Old Believers, I would join the initiative of the Patriarch (Kirill of Moscow and All Rus' - ed.) on a ceasefire on Christmas night. I would like to propose that this truce be extended not only to the day of Christmas itself, but to all Christmas time, until January 19 or 20 - before Epiphany, Baptism," the head of the VSS told RIA Novosti on Thursday.

    He said that on this occasion he spoke with Pope Francis, who shares this point of view.

    "I spoke with the Pope. The Pope supports this initiative and believes that the parties must stop any hostilities until January 20. He believes that this is the right initiative," Sevastyanov said.

    https://ria.ru/20230105/peremirie-1843202377.html

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:22 pm

    Interesting if true. Ukrainian press gangs roaming the EU?

    The other news is even funnier: "According to the new rules, foreign diplomatic departments must notify Ukrainian conscripts abroad about the start of conscription and facilitate their return home."
    So the refugees will be sent home by force.



    Meanwhile, according to the Ukraine channels, the UA resting men and materials for an offensive when the ground freezes. The French and US additions of light armor are probably part of that.

    At least the German Marders already have a cross on the side. Laughing

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    Post  lancelot Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:24 pm

    I am still waiting for the Germans to send Ukraine the Leopard 2 so it can be displayed at Kubinka with its erstwhile big cat brethren.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:29 pm

    What PR move? With who?

    With 7 bln people on the planet left if we adjust the "wealthy billion".
    I guess Twisted Evil

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:29 pm

    Not sure where this originated but it was quoted on MoA.

    Russian units now being issued with loud speaker systems? My highlight.

    If you don't understand why religion is a factor in this conflict then you're grasping only part of the explanation. There are millions of Ukrainians (but this could be said across the globe mutatis mutandis) for whom patriotism to an entity created 'only yesterday' (paraphrasing Herodotus) comes a long poor second behind faith and loyalty to the Orthodox Church.

    This gesture is a clever move by Putin: it is a reminder at Christmas that the President is an Orthodox champion; it clearly defines which side stands with God and which with the forces of darkness (woke Nazis); Podolyak's response will undermine morale at the front where carols sung by Russian choirs will cause many UA soldiers to question who the real enemy is; it is play for ethnic and religious unity between Kiev and Moscow which Putin knows will powerfully erode paper-thin political identity, etc etc. The politics of religion is therefore something to watch here very carefully and b is right to raise it.

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    Post  caveat emptor Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:40 pm

    Whoever made that comment, invents things out of thin air. Religion doesn't play a big part in Slavic ex-SU states. A lot of it revolves around tradition, but that's about it. If religion did play a big part in everyday life, there wouldn't be possible to proclaim open season on ROC priests without big pushback from general population.
    Not to forget that not all of Ukrainians are Orthodox, to begin with.

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    Post  franco Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:51 pm

    Kadyrov: more than 9,000 fighters were trained at the special forces university


    The head of Chechnya , Ramzan Kadyrov , said that more than nine thousand fighters have been trained at the Russian University of Special Forces (RUS) in Gudermes since the start of a special military operation on the territory of Ukraine . He wrote about this in his Telegram channel .

    “During the course of the special military operation, the Russian University of Special Forces has become a kind of magnet that attracts true patriots of the Fatherland ... To date, more than nine thousand fighters have already trained at the training center, and this is far from the limit of all possibilities,” wrote Kadyrov.

    According to him, RUS has created the best conditions for training volunteers. The learning process at the university is constantly being improved based on the experience gained, the head of Chechnya added.

    Earlier, Kadyrov said that the pit bull, rescued from the Azovstal plant in the summer, was returned to the owner.

    On February 24, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced that he had decided to conduct a military special operation to protect the Donbass in response to a request for help from the heads of the LPR and DPR.

    The decision to conduct the operation was the reason for new sanctions against Russia by the United States and its allies.

    https://www-gazeta-ru.translate.goog/army/news/2023/01/05/19424641.shtml?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

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    Post  franco Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:52 pm

    Western countries have trained approximately 12 thousand military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine since the beginning of the military operation


    Pentagon spokesman Air Force Brigadier General Patrick Ryder said that Western states have trained about 12 thousand Ukrainian military since the beginning of the conflict in Ukraine , the United States - about 3.1 thousand of them. It is reported by TASS .

    According to him, as part of efforts to train Ukrainians at the battalion level, which will start in a couple of weeks in Germany , we will train about 500 Ukrainians in one battalion every month.

    Earlier, Pentagon spokesman Brigadier General Patrick Ryder of the Air Force said that the United States on Friday, January 6, will announce a new package of military assistance to the Kiev authorities, it will include American Bradley infantry fighting vehicles (IFVs).

    On February 24, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced that he had decided to conduct a military special operation to protect the Donbass in response to a request for help from the heads of the LPR and DPR.

    The decision to conduct the operation was the reason for new sanctions against Russia by the United States and its allies.

    https://www-gazeta-ru.translate.goog/army/news/2023/01/05/19424701.shtml?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
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    Post  mack8 Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:01 pm

    When Shaheds fly ukr lights die Twisted Evil
    https://twitter.com/Pataramesh/status/1610896176546471936?cxt=HHwWgICz0bTihtssAAAA

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    Post  Werewolf Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:25 pm

    That's 40-47 days worth of Saloreich artillery cannon fodder.
    If that is the entire possible logistical effort the entire NATO block can provide, then there is nothing they can do when they are the next in the row.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:19 pm

    We can only hope this ceasefire is not the end of the SMO

    They said it would end at noon the 8th

    I hope so, and ends with a big offensive
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    Post  thegopnik Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:34 pm

    I hope the reason for the ceasefire is to give poland confidence in themselves in believing Russia is stupid and weak so they can fight, so that the Russians can have a reason to annex poland next please.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:02 pm

    Before annexing Poland, the Kremlin needs a real strategy for what to do next

    If they will be in reactive mode, it's better to keep defending in a ceasefire regime

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    Post  Regular Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:36 pm

    Annex Poland. Why not go straight for Canada and USA then?

    The question about what Russia do with Ukraine is not answered yet.


    Also, regards Andrew Perpetua - he is one nasty sh1t. He was wrong more times than anyone on the pro-Russian side. His takes are rubbish.

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    Post  kvs Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:41 pm

    Listening to Scott Ritter's analysis for "The Gagle" it looks to me like the only solution is full partition of Ukraine. The western
    part (without Odessa, Kharkov and other parts) would have to fall fully into NATzO's lap to be cared for by its real owners.
    The rest has to be absorbed into Russia. No transitional state occupying most of Ukraine that supposedly remains neutral,
    has access to the sea and can have a viable economy is acceptable. NATzO will always manage to manipulate it against Russia.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CjcKj0CwcU

    If this means mobilizing another 600,000 then sobeit. It would be stupid not to solve the Ukraine problem because of half-measures.
    Saving the effort today, means much more effort in the future. This already happened since intervention in 2014 would have been
    easier as the coup regime was unstable. Over 7 years it has put down roots. There was a reason why Russia did not intervene,
    but this reason is no longer an issue.



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    Post  Erk Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:03 am

    Regular wrote:

    Annex Poland. Why not go straight for Canada and USA then?

    The question about what Russia do with Ukraine is not answered yet.

    Also, regards Andrew Perpetua - he is one nasty sh1t. He was wrong more times than anyone on the pro-Russian side. His takes are rubbish.

    Do you really want to eat cancerous tissue?

    There is little point in annexing cultures that are hostile to your own values, it will just end in tears.

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:19 am


    When UN and Vatican support your retarded idea you know that it's an extra retarded one

    Church is the LAST institution who's opinion you should listen to during war, especially Orthodox one which is notorious for being completely spineless

    Seen it here before, same bullshit that only caused death and military failures

    Fùck the truce, anyone actually following this moronic order deserves to get killed like those 60 smartphone retards



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    Post  sepheronx Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:20 am

    I noticed something about Rybar.

    They make a ton of wild claims and state "our intelligence and analytical analysis states...." I have a feeling it's heavily made up. I'm unsure who they are and they are quoted a lot but I do seem to recall even Mercorous questioned a lot about their reporting and findings.

    Right now they are claiming in the sea of Japan a drone strike will hit Russia done on civilian vessels. At far eastern facilities.

    Now I see a lot, and I mean a lot of problems with that plan. And to add to it, their reasoning are"satellites from US monitoring the areas" because apparently Engles base had US sats over it.

    Issue is, US sats been watching those bases since forever. No one questions that though. Also, the political implications on Japan will be so huge Japan will be forced to act for their own interest and could screw up Ukraine even further.

    No one bothers to point at rybar and ask the necessary questions. And I'm starting to think this is a "boy who cried wolf" situation.

    I have noticed quality of telegram channel's and posts, even one done by cyberspec who may be same guy who used to post here, have gone down considerably. Cyberspec, if same person as who used to post here, should have better knowledge on russian equipment, manufacturing processes and capabilities and what not. But rather his TG channel comes off as rather amateurish.

    I am not saying this attack won't happen or couldn't happen. But I am just thinking thry are shooting in the dark. Or I could be completely wrong and Rybar is somehow the media arm of russias intelligence services.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:35 am

    You have noticed probably that most of them are doing capitalization of delivered content. As they are fighting the same pockets, there is a struggle for who will deliver more and faster. That is why I have switched off most of them, because at the end of a day, it turns out, that we will get much better content from a MOD briefing. Only a few hours later.


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    Post  sepheronx Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:43 am

    My favorite are the morons who state they know what Russia needs and what to buy from Iran....

    It's funny, but also very sad. Still waiting on those Iranian missiles that were "transfered to russia" months ago

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:51 am

    You mean Podolyaka and Onufrenko? Laughing

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:04 am

    Post caveat emptor Yesterday at 10:40 pm

    Whoever made that comment, invents things out of thin air. Religion doesn't play a big part in Slavic ex-SU states. A lot of it revolves around tradition, but that's about it. If religion did play a big part in everyday life, there wouldn't be possible to proclaim open season on ROC priests without big pushback from general population.
    Not to forget that not all of Ukrainians are Orthodox, to begin with.


    A very important pillar of the Putin's regime is his dance with the orthodox church.
    And one of the most vibrant propaganda stream in this war is fighting with western breed satanism.
    And, no matter if you like it or not, this narrative does get lots of gains in religious countries and societies.
    Russian glorious - and I really mean that - parade in the Middle East is made on principal values, religion being one of them.
    The whole thing is made more for an outside audience rather than for Russian people because those are actually quite pissed with the concept.
    The idea of the Third Rome is gaining in Moscow I guess, and the orthodoxy is in the renaissance.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:09 am

    Either the soldiers are at fault or the commander is, the blame lays with someone.

    It could be any mix or variation... all soldiers should know you can be targeted with cell phone use so even 10km behind the front line you should expect to be shelled by one side or the other... when you are fighting nazis you should expect the worst from them and of course they delivered...

    Ceasefire just for Ukrainians to ruin it to make Russia look more of a laughing stock than it already is from other incidents.

    Ceasefire for the Orcs to violate it and show who the bad guys are...


    What PR move? With who?

    A couple of days where they don't launch attacks or large missile strikes and just watch and listen... if the Orcs attack them anywhere of course they will be struck back and struck hard, but giving them a brief respite before returning to the new normal which is regular deliveries of flowers might have an effect.

    A break for the Ukrainian soldiers to think about what is coming and what they are doing and who they are doing it for...

    The Russians have reinforced their positions and would blunt any attempt at an offensive and if the orcs use the time to massively reinforce their positions and resupply then that will expose those locations and their ammo stores and fuel dumps to be targeted when the firing starts again...

    Meanwhile, according to the Ukraine channels, the UA resting men and materials for an offensive when the ground freezes. The French and US additions of light armor are probably part of that.

    The irony is that in giving them BMPs they are grouping the Orcs together to make fewer targets for Russian weapons and no western BMP has better than tank level armour so their anti armour weapons are going to cut through them like a hot knife through butter... and the fact that they are armed means lots of fuel and ammo inside to make sure all the troops die when the vehicle is hit...

    The mobility advantage of being able to move further and faster in vehicles is countered by the lack of air control...

    I hope the reason for the ceasefire is to give poland confidence in themselves in believing Russia is stupid and weak so they can fight, so that the Russians can have a reason to annex poland next please

    Why would Russia want to fix Poland?

    Let it remain the EUs problem...

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:59 am

    The ceasefire message hasn't got to Soladar yet Laughing

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