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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #34

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    Post  flamming_python 10/12/22, 08:54 pm

    billybatts91 wrote:

    And who was saying that the Yom Kippur war outmatches this one?

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    Post  Tolstoy 10/12/22, 09:37 pm

    Hole wrote:The Ukrainian Bureviy is an upgraded version of the Soviet Hurricane with an improved fire control system and mounted on a Czech Tatra T815-7T3RC1 armored chassis.
    Improved fire control? What did they improve? Just another stolen Russian technology.

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    Post  ALAMO 10/12/22, 11:11 pm

    Post Broski Today at 7:54 am
    @sepheronx
    Lets not forget that most Russians didn't support the SMO in February and thought that Putin was making a big mistake, it literally took 30-40 countries showing their visceral hatred towards Russians for 10 months straight, Billions of dollars of Russian assets stolen, 25000 sanctions, 1000's of western companies leaving the Russian market, getting banned from every single "international" organization controlled by the west and countless photos and videos of their Ukrainian "brothers" torturing and executing Russian soldiers with the full support of western news outlets and social media to change most of their minds.


    Not sure if you have noticed that, but ...
    This is a funny part of the story.
    The "300 bln frozen Russian reserves" seems to be ... a myth.
    Nobody can find those.
    Only fixed assets were some $18 billion in Swiss, but those have been defrosted already, as the Swiss federal court ordered.
    There are no "$300bln" Laughing
    Nobody knows where those are.
    And - what is even funnier - more and more talking that the western assets left in Russia overrun the mythical "frozen reserves" by a factor.
    And those are actually easy to find Laughing Laughing
    Lease payments for aircraft fleet are being steadily paid. Only in rubles and to the escrow accounts in the Russian banks.
    This whole situation is a joke.

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    Post  flamming_python 10/12/22, 11:42 pm

    @papadragon your boy almost got killed.

    He's been posing in that tacticool gear and squeaky clean camo, touring the front for like a month now

    I mean all respect to him, baiting Ukraine's dwindling supply of artillery rounds is still certainly doing more than any of us - but what is his actual purpose, in fact?

    Otherwise quite a downgrade, going from Roscomos director to live bait for that matter Razz

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    Post  JohninMK 11/12/22, 12:12 am

    Chronicle of the Special Military Operation for 9 Dec 2022⚡

    ♦#Belgorod Region:

    Ukrainian militants shelled #Pankov farmstead in the Shebeken municipal district and damaged a residential house. No fatalities or injuries.

    ♦#Starobelsk Direction:

    ▪ In the #Lyman area, Russian forces moved in to attack and take control of AFU positions in the forest belt on the #Kremennaya - #Makeyevka line.

    ▪ Artillery duels continue along the entire line of contact. Russian artillery has hit enemy positions in #Stelmachovka, #Sinkovka, #Novoselovskoye and #Ternoye.

    ♦#Soledar Direction:

    ▪ Wagner PMC troops are cleansing the village of #Yakovlevka. The RF Armed Forces have dislodged units of the AFU's 10th Mountain Assault Brigade from three strongholds north of #Berestovoye.

    ▪ The Ukrainian command is moving reinforcements and strengthening its defences to prevent encirclement of #Soledar from the northeast.

    ▪ In the #Bakhmut (#Artemovsk) sector, the AFU attempted to counterattack in #Opytnoye, the Russian forces held their positions.

    ▪ Fierce fighting continues in the southeastern outskirts of #Bakhmut. The enemy is throwing newly arrived units into the attack in and trying to stabilise the front.

    ▪ Hospitals and infirmaries in #Kramatorsk, #Slavyansk, #Konstantinovka and #Kiev are overcrowded due to heavy casualties across the front.

    ♦#Lugansk People's Republic:

    ▪ Ukrainian militants shelled the town of #Svatovo with barrel artillery, damaging a residential building and a gas distribution station.

    ♦#Donetsk Direction:

    ▪ In preparation for a possible offensive, the AFU command is redeploying units of the AFU's 59th Separate Motorized Infantry Brigade to the vicinity of #Donetsk.

    ▪ In the #Toretsk (#Dzerzhinsk) sector, the enemy moved two BMPs with personnel to #Toretsk to strengthen the defence.

    ▪ In the centre of #Maryinka, motorised rifle units of the RF Armed Forces continue fighting with Ukrainian formations.

    ▪ In the #Ugledar sector, the AFU are moving forces into the area of #Vremyevka ledge. Enemy UAVs are operating along the entire frontline.

    ▪ Ukrainian militants shelled populated areas of #Donetsk agglomeration with rocket and barrel artillery, including residential buildings and the gas pipeline of #Donetsk, at least three civilians were killed.

    ♦#Zaporozhye Direction:

    ▪ English-speaking units of the "International Legion of Defence of Ukraine" are engaged in small groups at the Bolshaya Lepetikha - #Konstantinovka line to search for and sabotage rear facilities of the RF Armed Forces.

    ▪ Artillery duels continue along the line of contact. The RF Armed Forces worked on enemy positions in #Orekhov, #Dorozhnyanka, #Gulyaypole and #Novodanilovka.

    ♦#Kherson Direction:

    ▪ SRG boats of the "International Legion of Defence of Ukraine" reconnoitre RF Armed Forces' fire positions along the left bank of the #Dnipro River and guide Ukrainian artillery from the direction of #Ochakov.

    ▪ Russian units struck enemy staging areas in #Chernobaevka, #Kazatskoye, #Antonovka and #Berislav.

    ▪ Ukrainian militants fired from mortars at civilian facilities in Novaya Kakhovka and Golaya Pristan.


    https://t.me/sitreports/1900

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    Post  JohninMK 11/12/22, 12:16 am

    The Russian army is advancing in the Liman direction; the enemy is losing ground and trying to counterattack

       The Russian Army has been on the offensive at Kremenna for several days now, successfully breaking through and gaining better positions for further advance.

       ▪ Advance in some areas was over 3 km. After significant breakthroughs at Ploshchanka and Chervona Dibrova, Ukrainian foot soldiers were captured.
       ▪The command minimized losses due to the clever use of a wide range of means of destruction from all types of howitzers, TOS Solntsepek to guided missiles Krasnopol, aerial bombs, and guided missiles from helicopters and PTRCs.
       ▪Intense artillery battles and counter-battery warfare are taking place, with our howitzers firing heavily across the entire frontline from Kupiansk to Lysychansk.
       / According to the AFU General Staff: the Russian Armed Forces are shelling AFU positions in the areas of Ploshchanka, Novoselivske, Stelmakhivka, and Nevske (where AFU armored vehicles and infantry are concentrated) in the LNR, as well as Torskoye and Hryhorovka in the DPR/.
       ▪ The Ukrainian armed forces have amassed a strike force and are attempting to advance near Chervonopopivka, with artillery and aviation striking.
       ▪▪ In previous days, our aviation actively worked on AFU positions and concentrations, on 08.12, due to weather conditions, aviation use was limited, but even so, the Russian Air Force destroyed enemy armored vehicles and manpower, supporting the ground troops' offensive.
       ▪For two days, the offensive destroyed at least 200 Ukrainian military and mercenaries, five APCs, and four vehicles.

    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/24319


    Back in March, representatives of the US Air Force offered to transfer American MQ-9 Reaper UAVs to Kyiv, but the Pentagon has not yet completed consideration of such a possibility, the American newspaper Politico reported.

    The Air Force thought they had the perfect plan: take the old Reaper drones they've been trying to get rid of for years and send them to Ukraine, which has been asking for long-range weapons.

    As follows from the publication, the United States has "concerns about the transfer of secret technologies" to the Ukrainian side, as well as the fact that "some [drones] are almost guaranteed to be shot down." The article notes that immediately after the start of the special military operation of the Russian Federation in Ukraine, Kyiv used Turkish Bayraktar TB2 UAVs, but later "they became a target for Russian air defense systems and electronic warfare systems." This "raised concerns at the Pentagon about how American drones would perform in such an environment."


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    Post  JohninMK 11/12/22, 12:20 am

    I like this title, I think it should be promoted, Zaluzhny, the “Bakhmut Butcher”. In WW1 such names were given to UK Generals and stuck to them.


    "Bakhmutsky butcher" Zaluzhny does not take into account the losses near Artemovsk - Shurygin

    In the battles near Artyomovsk (DPR), which received the unspoken name "Bakhmut meat grinder", in addition to the fact that constantly arriving fresh untrained reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are being ground, the most elite units also suffer crushing losses.

    This was announced on the TV channel "Russia 1" by military expert Vladislav Shurygin. The expert cited incredible numbers of losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Artyomovsky direction.

    “It is high time for the current commander of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Pan Zaluzhny, to give the honorary name “Bakhmut Butcher”. Because what he did near Bakhmut is a monstrous crime. That is, on a front of 10 by 10 kilometers to put 10 thousand Ukrainians in a month - these are not even the trenches of the First World War, this is something more transcendent. This bet on war with people, when the resource is endless, and you can throw it and throw it, fill it up with bodies, this is an indicator of degradation, including the Ukrainian military school.

    It is easy to report to the people when no one knows the losses, no one knows the price, and you tell how glorious the "offensive" was, and how much we took away. But, as we remember, they took a little bit at once, and since then there has been a battle in which every week Ukrainians lay down their lives by the thousands,” Shurygin said.

    Nevertheless, according to him, the results of the winter campaign will be decisive for the course of the war.

    “This is clear to everyone, that’s why Zaluzhny doesn’t want to go on the offensive so much, that’s why he puts people so furiously in order to report at least somewhere that they are standing to death. But this "Bakhmutsky butcher" cost Ukraine dearly. Of course, they put a lot of people through this meat grinder, who were simply taken from the street and sent on the second day. But after all, very experienced units also died there, they were ground.

    The 65th brigade was withdrawn, which fought from the first day and was considered one of the most trained, a brigade that had been trained by foreign instructors since 2014, in fact, an exemplary brigade. Therefore, yes, all the main fights are ahead, but I look ahead very calmly and confidently, ”the expert explained.



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    Post  JohninMK 11/12/22, 12:30 am

    Get your heads around this.

    Claude-Frédéric Bastiat the 19th century French economist, writer had these words to offer that seem entirely appropriate now.

    "When misguided public opinion honors what is despicable and despises what is honorable, punishes virtue and rewards vice, encourages what is harmful and discourages what is useful, applauds falsehood and smothers truth under indifference or insult, a nation turns its back on progress and can be restored only by the terrible lessons of catastrophe."

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    Post  GarryB 11/12/22, 12:42 am

    Few months old. I don't know if it was posted probably yes but I find it interesting to see a pantsir firing 4 missiles in matter of less than 30sec. IMO it was intercepting Himars rockets. Impressive reaction time.

    The early models has more basic radar and often fired several missiles at each target.

    It fired 3 missiles before the last one. It was tracking targets so the last missile just went for that last target but since the launcher wasn't up but down the boost phase sent it into the building

    For critical threats like rockets flying towards friendly troops they might launch extra missiles but if the targets get hit the extra missiles stop being guided.
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    Post  Hole 11/12/22, 12:49 am

    “Germany and France must pay compensation to the residents of Donbass. The current situation in Ukraine is a consequence of the deceitful policy of the leaders of these states,” said Viacheslav Volodin.

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    Post  JohninMK 11/12/22, 01:06 am

    Andy Milburn, a retired US Marine Corps colonel now on the ground as I/C a mercenary unit in Ukraine, confirms enormous Ukrainian casualties.

    "They've been taking extraordinarily high casualties. The numbers you are reading in the media about 70 percent and above casualties being routine are not exaggerated... Ukraine's "acute 'regeneration problem,' ... means getting new recruits into the line as quickly as possible.

    They've got units on overwatch. We can be engaged by direct fire within up to four kilometers, and they have drones overhead and aircraft... We're like mice trying to find our way through a maze with this giant, malevolent cat pouncing and whacking at every potential pathway.""

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    Post  JohninMK 11/12/22, 01:10 am

    This thing looks like a Maginot Line gun turret on wheels. Laughing But it is fully automatic with a magazine of 30 rounds.

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    🇩🇪 🇺🇦 Media write that Rheinmetall has signed a contract for the manufacture of two new Skynex air defense systems worth $182 million. Skynex uses programmable 35mm ammunition to work on attacking drones or cruise missiles.

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    Post  kvs 11/12/22, 01:45 am

    ALAMO wrote:Not sure if you have noticed that, but ...
    This is a funny part of the story.
    The "300 bln frozen Russian reserves" seems to be ... a myth.
    Nobody can find those.
    Only fixed assets were some $18 billion in Swiss, but those have been defrosted already, as the Swiss federal court ordered.
    There are no "$300bln" Laughing
    Nobody knows where those are.

    Clearly they are the stolen Putin billions nobody is able to find to this day. Surely this affords the 5th column rich material to shout
    that "see, we were right, Putin's regime is lying to you".


    And - what is even funnier - more and more talking that the western assets left in Russia overrun the mythical "frozen reserves" by a factor.
    And those are actually easy to find Laughing Laughing
    Lease payments for aircraft fleet are being steadily paid. Only in rubles and to the escrow accounts in the Russian banks.
    This whole situation is a joke.

    Western arrogance is never-ending. Hitler expected the "rotten Bolshevik facade" to crumble. This is exactly what NATzO clowns
    expected in February. The setting up of Banderite Ukraine as a bait for Russian military intervention was predicated on the "Russia
    does not make anything" type "thinking". I believe Napoleon was also convinced in the innate western superiority and expected
    Russia to fold if he reached Moscow. But those damned Russians refused to surrender and gave him one of the most epic defeats
    in history. General Winter was kicking the ass of his Grande Arme all the way back to France.

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    Post  kvs 11/12/22, 01:54 am

    JohninMK wrote:"As follows from the publication, the United States has "concerns about the transfer of secret technologies" to the Ukrainian side, as well as the fact that "some [drones] are almost guaranteed to be shot down." The article notes that immediately after the start of the special military operation of the Russian Federation in Ukraine, Kyiv used Turkish Bayraktar TB2 UAVs, but later "they became a target for Russian air defense systems and electronic warfare systems." This "raised concerns at the Pentagon about how American drones would perform in such an environment."

    This should be some context for the Ryzan and Engles Russian "non-response". The yanquis are paranoid about revealing to Russia even trashy tech
    such as this. BTW, KAL007 was another yanqui probing + propaganda operation.

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    Post  PapaDragon 11/12/22, 03:36 am

    JohninMK wrote:...“It is high time for the current commander of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Pan Zaluzhny, to give the honorary name “Bakhmut Butcher”. Because what he did near Bakhmut is a monstrous crime. That is, on a front of 10 by 10 kilometers to put 10 thousand Ukrainians in a month - these are not even the trenches of the First World War, this is something more transcendent...

    He should be given a medal (Russian one)

    More of this, please

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    Post  PhSt 11/12/22, 04:11 am

    More strikes on food supplies, logistics and water facilities are needed. The Pukrainian Nazis need to starve to death.

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    Post  Hole 11/12/22, 04:35 am

    Reporter: "Do you have something to keep you warm?"
    Answer from the Ukro fighter:
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    Post  sepheronx 11/12/22, 04:41 am

    @Broskie

    You pretty much proved my point by stating same thing in a different manner.

    Russian people were very dumb indeed and blind to everything happening against them for over a decade and it took this blatant stupidity of the west for the Russian nationals to finally get it through their thick skulls that the west wanted them dead. Something the rest of us was telling them far longer than this war started.

    Better late than never.

    The west was always gonna find a way to screw itself with its partners. But that was my point too. Russia played the defensive roll so that it will be a slow grind and the west will never accept defeat or an agreement they will hold so they will keep showing the rest of the world who they really are. But once again, it boils down to that the majority of the world's populations are rather dumb if they would have believed anything the west says contrary to what it has done for the last...forever.

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    Post  ALAMO 11/12/22, 04:48 am

    Now is any of you folks had any doubts about the coverage of this whole tragedy in the Anglosaxon shitstream, here is a brilliant example :



    Aired 5 days ago by The Sun, with 3.6 mln subscribers.

    Ukrainian Air Force shoots down Russian aircraft and drops bombs on positions is the title.

    Yet ... those are not Ukroluftwaffe, but Ruskie Su-25.
    None of them was shot down.
    Those are no bombs but artillery.
    And being dropped not on Russkie, but Ukrs.
    Actually, whole material was made by the republican side, and it is clearly written on the scene - yet in Russian Cyrillic, so nobody in the UK will figure out, right? Laughing
    It is like the old joke :

    Have you heard that there is a giveaway for free cars in Moscow?
    Sure I did!
    But not in Moscow but Kiev.
    Not cars but bicycles.
    And no giveaway but they steal those.

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    Post  PapaDragon 11/12/22, 05:08 am

    PhSh wrote:More strikes on food supplies, logistics and water facilities are needed...

    You are supposed to hit water facilities after weather gets hot not before

    Plus they still have abundance of electricity, that still needs to be taken care of





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    Post  Erk 11/12/22, 10:49 am

    sepheronx wrote:

    Russian people were very dumb indeed and blind to everything happening against them for over a decade and it took this blatant stupidity of the west for the Russian nationals to finally get it through their thick skulls that the west wanted them dead. Something the rest of us was telling them far longer than this war started.

    That's how clandestine operations work, eg. the color revolutions, the West sending in NGOs with lots of $US and starts a broad disinformation campaign to change the minds of the Ukrainian and Russian citizens, in particular the younger naive ones that can't spot what is happening until it's too late.  The boiling frog analogy.

    The US spend $5billion organizing the Maidan coups, as was admitted on TV by Victoria Nuland Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs, at the time.

    https://www.conservapedia.com/Maidan_coup

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    Post  flamming_python 11/12/22, 10:52 am

    kvs wrote:Western arrogance is never-ending. Hitler expected the "rotten Bolshevik facade" to crumble. This is exactly what NATzO clowns
    expected in February. The setting up of Banderite Ukraine as a bait for Russian military intervention was predicated on the "Russia
    does not make anything" type "thinking". I believe Napoleon was also convinced in the innate western superiority and expected
    Russia to fold if he reached Moscow. But those damned Russians refused to surrender and gave him one of the most epic defeats
    in history. General Winter was kicking the ass of his Grande Arme all the way back to France.

    Western arrogance is balanced by Russian doomerism

    Speaking of Napoleon's invasion

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    Now imagine Russia being able to follow a strategy to win the war like that, in the era of Telegram military experts and voenkors

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    Post  sepheronx 11/12/22, 11:06 am

    @ERK

    That's fine but there is another issue, and it's a far bigger issue. That is the groups of people within knows what the west is doing and will join the west in order to gain power. The west also knows that funding of such groups can be either good for them or extremely bad for them but they do it anyway. That's what the head of C14 was saying when the Maidan was happening in 2014. That they acted as the strong arm of the coup. They knew that the west was gonna push all the alphabet groups (LGBT, etc) in Ukraine but they were willing to tolerate it till they got the power.

    Anyway, all that's behind us for now.

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